PSP2TV and emulation- anyone have any experience with it?

DevilRedeemed · Apr 15, 2007

editted the title as I've done a bit of homework and want to know about the PSP2TV with relation to emulation and how it displays - I know PSP games don't look good on a larger screen, but how about, say a megadrive game on a normal crt?

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I want to know which is the better of the 2 - take into account that what I find attractive about the GP2X is that I can plug it into the TV and I imagine that through USB I can plug in a joystick - so I have a tiny rom box I can play roms on for the TV (need one of those docking stations for SVid though right?) - that sounds awesome to me.

was wondering if something similar could be done with the PSP.

skam · Apr 15, 2007

there was a post a while back from someone who bought one of those PSP addon things that let you hook it up to the telly via svid and connect a PS2 pad/joystick. I'll be fucked if I'm searching for it though.

Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

You don't need a docking station for the GP2X to output s-video. You just need to buy the TV-out cable (~$10) which outputs s-video and stereo sound out of the GP2X:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-d1-77-4-49-en-15-GP2X-70-11n7.html

Circa2113 · Apr 15, 2007

Emulation wise, I'm pretty sure the PSP can do anything (if not more) that the GP2x can. It may just come down to the ease of using the gp2x with your television if that is your main concern...

ray_7 · Apr 15, 2007

Having owned both, I would say go for PSP.

jdotaku · Apr 15, 2007

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

The PSP is at a slight disadvantage in this department, since it's a bit of a hassle to connect a PSP to a TV.

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Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

I'd say the big thing that the PSP has over the GP2X is PSX emulation and good commercial games. If you're interested in that, go with the PSP. The big thing that the GP2X has is easy TV-out/rom-box capabilities and more opportunity for homebrew (in that the handheld was the designed for this sort of thing). The two are about equal in terms of emulation, with the biggest difference being PSX emulation (I believe it's perfect on the PSP; the GP2X is progressing, but I only see it becoming full speed with sound for 2D PSX games).

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

Gotenks326 said:
I'd say the big thing that the PSP has over the GP2X is PSX emulation and good commercial games. If you're interested in that, go with the PSP. The big thing that the GP2X has is easy TV-out/rom-box capabilities and more opportunity for homebrew (in that the handheld was the designed for this sort of thing). The two are about equal in terms of emulation, with the biggest difference being PSX emulation (I believe it's perfect on the PSP; the GP2X is progressing, but I only see it becoming full speed with sound for 2D PSX games).

Not to mention the fact that the PSP has a HUGE fanbase and a good staple of devs working on it daily....not sure if the same can be said about GP2x, though.

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Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

BIG said:
Not to mention the fact that the PSP has a HUGE fanbase and a good staple of devs working on it daily.

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That's true. The PSP is mainstream so its fanbase is HUGE. Most of the English-speaking GP2X fanbase is located at GP32x.com. A lot of devs are constantly working on the GP2X, but obviously there's going to be more with the PSP due to its exposure and greater fanbase.

DevilRedeemed · Apr 15, 2007

thanks guys - I'm still not sure what to go for, though is playstation emulation on PSP perfect? I know they're releasing psx games for it, but you can also get isos right? from what vids I saw of gp2x, psx emulation is slow right now.

saw a youtube vid of hyper SF2 on GP2X and it really looked stunning.

and there is a docking station for psp then? I'll have to do some research - tough can it support true analogue if using a ps2 pad?

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

DevilRedeemed said:
thanks guys - I'm still not sure what to go for, though is playstation emulation on PSP perfect? I know they're releasing psx games for it, but you can also get isos right? from what vids I saw of gp2x, psx emulation is slow right now.

saw a youtube vid of hyper SF2 on GP2X and it really looked stunning.

and there is a docking station for psp then? I'll have to do some research - tough can it support true analogue if using a ps2 pad?

There are quite a few TV-Out add-ons for the PSP, though I have never had any hands-on experience with any of them.

If you do get a PSP, be sure to get one with fw 3.02 or below. You can then downgrade it and swap in a custom firmware, so that you may take full advantage of what the system has to offer (the ability to use your own PSX ISOs will only work through custom firmware).

If you thought that SF Hyper on GP2x looked stunning, wait until you see Pro-Gear and Marvel Vs. Capcom running full-speed on a PSP

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Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

DevilRedeemed said:
thanks guys - I'm still not sure what to go for, though is playstation emulation on PSP perfect? I know they're releasing psx games for it, but you can also get isos right? from what vids I saw of gp2x, psx emulation is slow right now.

saw a youtube vid of hyper SF2 on GP2X and it really looked stunning.

and there is a docking station for psp then? I'll have to do some research - tough can it support true analogue if using a ps2 pad?

I believe PSP emulation (using isos) is perfect. Make sure that you see recent videos of PSX emulation on the GP2X (There are always a bunch of old videos out there of GP2X emulators that people use to knock the GP2X). But yes, compared to full speed emulation, the GP2X PSX emulation will look very slow.

DevilRedeemed · Apr 15, 2007

BIG said:
If you thought that SF Hyper on GP2x looked stunning, wait until you see Pro-Gear and Marvel Vs. Capcom running full-speed on a PSP

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do you know if it supports real analog for psx games though?

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

DevilRedeemed said:
do you know if it supports real analog for psx games though?

Hmmm....not really sure about that, but I think it is quite possible.

CPS/CPS2 and MVS run perfectly on a PSP, BTW

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Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

When do you plan on making the purchase? I'm really tired of this GP2X emulation vs. PSP emulation stuff since there rarely are people that have experienced both at the same time (I am guilty of this as I have not experienced PSP emulation). So, I'm thinking about buying a PSP that is set up for emulation and doing an honest emulation comparison between the two (with videos, if possible) to help people out with this frequent question (And also to help myself, as I've been really curious as to what the REAL differences are between emulation on the two handhelds).

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

Gotenks326 said:
When do you plan on making the purchase? I'm really tired of this GP2X emulation vs. PSP emulation stuff since there rarely are people that have experienced both at the same time (I am guilty of this as I have not experienced PSP emulation). So, I'm thinking about buying a PSP that is set up for emulation and doing an honest emulation comparison between the two (with videos, if possible) to help people out with this frequent question (And also to help myself, as I've been really curious as to what the REAL differences are between emulation on the two handhelds).

Translation:

I want to dump my GP2x and get a PSP~

rofl

Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

BIG said:
Translation:

I want to dump my GP2x and get a PSP~

rofl

Uh, no, I want to honestly see what the differences are between the two units by doing a side-by-side comparison (Keeping the GP2X and buying a PSP). Take it as you will (If you're a Sony fanboy you may see it as you see it), but a side-by-side comparison is my intention.

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

Gotenks326 said:
Uh, no, I want to honestly see what the differences are between the two units by doing a side-by-side comparison (Keeping the GP2X and buying a PSP). Take it as you will (If you're a Sony fanboy you may see it as you see it), but a side-by-side comparison is my intention.

Pretty useless comparison if you ask me.

I know plenty of peeps who've owned both, and every last one of them champion the PSP.

I do like the GP2x for its TV-out and media storage capabillities,though.

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DevilRedeemed · Apr 15, 2007

Gotenks326 said:
When do you plan on making the purchase? I'm really tired of this GP2X emulation vs. PSP emulation stuff since there rarely are people that have experienced both at the same time (I am guilty of this as I have not experienced PSP emulation). So, I'm thinking about buying a PSP that is set up for emulation and doing an honest emulation comparison between the two (with videos, if possible) to help people out with this frequent question (And also to help myself, as I've been really curious as to what the REAL differences are between emulation on the two handhelds).

I'm kind of looking for one right now and am swaying towards PSP right now (just slightly - not fully onboard yet) - I've had one and know what to expect out of the system - but as I say I want a mini rom box to hook up to the tv and play with a pad - here's a comparison of docking stations I found:
http://www.superufo.com/review_html...out_the_best_among_3_PSP_to_TV_adapters_.html

seems the more expensive one would be the way to go for me but fuck the 30-60 minute instalation (!!)

edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPNtfIDuTtg

if you can put a joystick in (not just ps2 pad) then I'm going with this.

Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

BIG said:
Pretty useless comparison if you ask me.

I know plenty of peeps who've owned both, and every last one of them champion the PSP.

I do like the GP2x for its TV-out and media storage capabillities,though.

B-

Well, everyone has their biases, and I'm sure you didn't get that custom title for no apparent reason. It's a pretty useless comparison for a Sony fanboy, and it's a pretty useless comparison for a GP2X fanboy. I'm a fanboy of neither handhelds, and I want to personally see how to the two compare in terms of emulation. If every single person you asked championed the PSP over the GP2X, then you either didn't ask enough people or asked the wrong people (kind of like how when people do polls and get 100% on one side; just like with the polls, this question isn't 100% clear-cut, so either the sample size is too small or the wrong people are being asked to get a fairer idea of the two handhelds).

Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

DevilRedeemed said:
I'm kind of looking for one right now and am swaying towards PSP right now (just slightly - not fully onboard yet) - I've had one and know what to expect out of the system - but as I say I want a mini rom box to hook up to the tv and play with a pad - here's a comparison of docking stations I found:
http://www.superufo.com/review_html...out_the_best_among_3_PSP_to_TV_adapters_.html

seems the more expensive one would be the way to go for me but fuck the 30-60 minute instalation (!!)

edit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPNtfIDuTtg

if you can put a joystick in (not just ps2 pad) then I'm going with this.

Seems rather expensive, but 30-60 minutes installation doesn't really seem that bad for a one-time installation.

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

Gotenks326 said:
Well, everyone has their biases, and I'm sure you didn't get that custom title for no apparent reason. It's a pretty useless comparison for a Sony fanboy, and it's a pretty useless comparison for a GP2X fanboy. I'm a fanboy of neither handhelds, and I want to personally see how to the two compare in terms of emulation. If every single person you asked championed the PSP over the GP2X, then you either didn't ask enough people or asked the wrong people (kind of like how when people do polls and get 100% on one side; just like with the polls, this question isn't 100% clear-cut, so either the sample size is too small or the wrong people are being asked to get a fairer idea of the two handhelds).

believe me when i say this, but i've been looking to get a gp2x of my own for ages. the reason that kept me from buying one is because even the most hardcore gp2x loyalists have since sold off their units in favor of a PSP.

regarding the 'bias' comment, i tend to do my homework before committing. no need to cross exam everything unnecessarily.

also, are you saying that the PSP does not emulate as well as the gp2x? can the gp2x run cps/cps2/mvs perfectly w/sound? how about psx, gba, gb/gbc,wsc,lynx,master system,genny,pc-engine,nes,snes,ngpc,etc?

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Gotenks326 · Apr 15, 2007

BIG said:
also, are you saying that the PSP does not emulate as well as the gp2x?

Nope.

I haven't tried all of those systems, but the GP2X runs a lot of them full speed with sound:
MVS emulation
GB/GBC
Master System
NES
Genesis (there's support for a few Sega CD titles, but not all of them yet)
PC-Engine.

I believe the following are perfect with sound (I haven't gotten around to trying them):
CPS/CPS 2
Lynx

GBA emulation just recently surged. I haven't tried it myself, but people seem to be reporting that it's full speed with sound (check out the newer videos on YouTube). Considering how new the emulator is, I doubt compatibility is close to 100%.

PSX I've already mentioned in a previous post. It will never be as perfect as it is on the PSP for obvious hardware limitations.

I don't know about WSC emulation (there are 2 emulators and I've tried neither of them). I also don't know about NGPC emulation. I'll possibly look into these later tonight.

SNES doesn't support certain games like Yoshi's Island and Mario RPG (I'm not sure which chips are supported and which aren't; MMX2/3 and Chrono Trigger run fine). The biggest problem is transparencies. If you disable transparencies, then games are full speed with sound. But certain games require transparencies at certain points, at which point turning on transparencies slows them down a bit. This is remedied by being able to use transparency hacks and disabling/enabling rasters. Thus, SNES is not perfect yet.

BIG · Apr 15, 2007

PSP emulation is far from perfect, but it is definitely thriving and playable.

I do want a gp2x for its on the go media functionality,though.

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