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-Hibikster-
09-30-2006, 11:01 PM
I've got photos here of... something, anyway, plus some text that implies they're working on a sequel. Hold on while I upload it.

EDIT:

Okay. So what happened [at TGS 2006] is that there was an extended plot dump of Mark of the Wolves, from start to end, with spoken dialog. Then after Rock's ending, the story faded back in and kept going with high-res art. Mary turned up and discussed something with Terry; Terry got on the back of her bike, and they rode off. Then this text appeared, that Tim translated as something to the effect of "The story of the Wolf continues". Then there was a Garou 15th anniversary trailer. It seems to at least suggest something, if not a new game.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5497/motw22hp1.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7458/motw23gd2.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7751/motw24ya0.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7643/motw25tp5.jpg

SOURCE:
http://forums.insertcredit.com/viewtopic.php?t=8247&start=47&sid=b02950752f10e03cc511bf4e291384f3

More info at KOF Cyberfanatix:


Memories of Stray Wolves.Posted 2006-09-22 08:24 by remukhan

The Fatal Fury series is now fifteen years old.

At Tokyo Game Show 2006, the SNK Playmore booth included demos of some of their new games, as well as fan service. In collaboration with Hapinet who makes music CDs, a Fatal Fury series 15th anniversary movie is being shown. The movie, first shown at TGS, discusses a Fatal Fury 15th Anniversary Box that includes a bonus DVD, and is scheduled to be released on November 8th.

The movie is titled Fatal Fury 15th Anniversary: Memories of Stray Wolves. The scenario is by Ureshino Akihiko, and the designs are by Ogura Eisuke. It will look back over the history of the series with game footage and illustrations, and should run about 20 minutes.

Naturally, the original voice actors will be contributing! SNKP is out in force this year. I'll leave the explanation of the images to Mr. Ureshino!



http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2122/12yy0.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/57/11kz6.jpg

RATM
09-30-2006, 11:05 PM
If SNKP is making a sequel let just hope they don't fuck it up. MOTW is one of those rares gems...

Gotenks326
09-30-2006, 11:19 PM
Sweet. MOTW rocks :)

dakingofzumunda
09-30-2006, 11:19 PM
Read a little about this over in S-C. I'm hoping if this is true that, it receives the same treatment like KoF XII with the new sprites. Plus keeping the gameplay solid like the original and you'll have yourself a winner.

RocketLawnChair
09-30-2006, 11:34 PM
Excellent news! :D Let's hope SNKP's true to SNK's original masterpiece. Such a shame it won't be on SNK hardware this time around though.

GeoStigma
09-30-2006, 11:44 PM
Well, since they will likely be redoing some of the MOTW characters for XII anyway, the odds of a MOTW2 seem pretty good. These images definitely make it safe to assume that something is in the works for the FF series at least. Alot of great news from TGS this year.

:qcf: :qcf: :C:

recon_zero
09-30-2006, 11:53 PM
MOTW2 = SF4
:loco:

JammaGuy
09-30-2006, 11:59 PM
Hell yeah! I honeslt cant wait to check this one out! I play garou: MOTW so much! and if this one is going to be as pure as the last, It will be a beautiful make!

-idosk8

derboo
10-01-2006, 12:11 AM
I'm not that optimistic, since I get the impression it will just be this DVD.

OrochiEddie
10-01-2006, 12:53 AM
a 2nd MOTW would be very welcome.

themisterfalcon
10-01-2006, 01:17 AM
Wonder if it will be on Atomiswave or the Taito X2...

CyberAkuma
10-01-2006, 01:30 AM
Wonder if it will be on Atomiswave or the Taito X2...

Is this even worth wondering about? Logic dictates that with all the other hoopla SNKP is giving with their "big move" to the X2, that any and all things that aren't going to be "straight to console/portable" releases will be on the X2. No reason to backtrack, is there?

But any way...this is awesome. I really hope that this version of Blue Mary could end up being playable...Wild Amibtion-style Mr. Karate being an extra character or boss would just be the icing on the cake...:mr_t:

Lee Gray
10-01-2006, 03:00 AM
well i would love to see a sequal but i wont hold my breath sounds more like just a documentary but if one was made then the original system it comes out on i will be buying unless of course the games utter shite

Xian Xi
10-01-2006, 03:32 AM
If they make MOTW 2 fuckin 3D I will be pissed.

Amano Jacu
10-01-2006, 03:43 AM
There's nothing that indicates there'll be a new game, just the movie. Oh well.

mainman
10-01-2006, 05:49 AM
If SNKP is making a sequel let just hope they don't fuck it up. MOTW is one of those rares gems...

Their going to fuck it up and you know in your heart their gonna because every franchise they touched has turned immediately to shit. God I wish SNK was still around, just god.

-Hibikster-
10-01-2006, 06:20 AM
Says the guy who has an SNK Playmore character from an SNK Playmore game in his sig. :rolleyes:

GeoStigma
10-01-2006, 07:18 AM
Their going to fuck it up and you know in your heart their gonna because every franchise they touched has turned immediately to shit. God I wish SNK was still around, just god.

Because we all know that KoF XI was simply unbearable....

Hot Chocolate
10-01-2006, 11:58 AM
Even with all the bitching I know there will still be a ton of people here who will snag this( myself included )

Lets Gekiga In
10-01-2006, 01:58 PM
MUST.HAVE.MOTW.2

Tung Fu ru
10-01-2006, 02:10 PM
MOTW2 = SF4
:loco:
LOL HAHAHA you're probably right.

It would be sweet for SNKP to finally make a sequal if it was any good.

RocketLawnChair
10-01-2006, 02:52 PM
If they make MOTW 2 fuckin 3D I will be pissed. Actually yeah, good point. They'd better not make this shit 3D. If they do, I might just have to hang it up as far as SNKP's concerned. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product. Hopefully it'll be true to the original.

roker
10-01-2006, 03:03 PM
Says the guy who has an SNK Playmore character from an SNK Playmore game in his sig. :rolleyes:

OWNED.

mainman
10-01-2006, 05:24 PM
Says the guy who has an SNK Playmore character from an SNK Playmore game in his sig. :rolleyes:


The character in my sig is from a franchise that was screwed up under the playmore banner.


Because we all know that KoF XI was simply unbearable....

Yes but every metal slug after 3 was unbearable


unOWNED.

Fixed

Gamefan
10-01-2006, 05:32 PM
Could there truely be a MOTW 2 coming? Let's hope so!

GAMEFAN

MattMan
10-01-2006, 05:55 PM
SNKP does not have the best track record but hopefully they are learning. I hope that MOTW 2 turns out good.. but either way im excited to see a finished product since I loved MOTW so much it will be nice to see a continuation of it.

SouthtownKid
10-01-2006, 05:56 PM
The character in my sig is from a franchise that was screwed up under the playmore banner.

FixedHow can you say "unOWNED"? Your sig is a character CREATED under the Playmore banner. Are you saying you hate the character you have such a large sig of? I don't get it. In any case, I'd say SS5S is a much more on track game than SS4 -- which screwed up the franchise under the old SNK banner.

mainman
10-01-2006, 06:07 PM
How can you say "unOWNED"? Your sig is a character CREATED under the Playmore banner. Are you saying you hate the character you have such a large sig of? I don't get it. In any case, I'd say SS5S is a much more on track game than SS4 -- which screwed up the franchise under the old SNK banner.

Uh, what does character design have to do with game play, the two do not have to go hand and hand. Game play wise I did not like the Samurai shodown that character came from.

Samurai shodown 5 special was true to the franchise, well at least the arcade version was. The console port where censored which made them fell half assed and reduced them back to a cartoony feeling. Samurai shodown 6 totally jumped the shark, it felt more like waku waku 7 with swords. I have to disagree about samurai shodown 4, hell I have more respect for part 3 than 6 and I hate part 3

alec
10-01-2006, 06:13 PM
Well, a new Garou game would be a better way of celebrating the series' 15th birthday than a Fatal Fury Hyper Anniversary Edition thats for sure.

JDIAMOND
10-01-2006, 06:23 PM
MOTW2 = SF4
:loco:
I have a feeling your right.I would be to good to be true.

GeoStigma
10-01-2006, 06:42 PM
Yes but every metal slug after 3 was unbearable

So then you mean KoF XI was not terrible, correct? Therefore every franchise SNKP touched has not, "immediately turned to shit".

MS 4 & 5 were awful (most, if not everyone, would agree on that), if you are saying 6 is bad though...:loco:

themisterfalcon
10-01-2006, 06:52 PM
Is this even worth wondering about? Logic dictates that with all the other hoopla SNKP is giving with their "big move" to the X2, that any and all things that aren't going to be "straight to console/portable" releases will be on the X2. No reason to backtrack, is there?

You would think they would utilize the AW some more, considering the amount of hardware already installed and active in current arcades in Japan. I am sad to see that system go so soon :(

mainman
10-01-2006, 06:56 PM
So then you mean KoF XI was not terrible, correct? Therefore every franchise SNKP touched has not, "immediately turned to shit".

MS 4 & 5 were awful (most, if not everyone, would agree on that), if you are saying 6 is bad though...:loco:


Ok how about on their first or even second attempt with a given game series they tend to drop the ball once or twice before they do something note worthy and in the case of samurai shodown they will screw up redeem themselves and then screw up again.

roker
10-01-2006, 06:57 PM
where the fuck are all these unknowns coming from with their SNKP hate?

SouthtownKid
10-01-2006, 07:04 PM
Well, a new Garou game would be a better way of celebrating the series' 15th birthday than a Fatal Fury Hyper Anniversary Edition thats for sure.Unfortunately, if they want to have something in time for the 15th anniversary, they only have a couple months left to do it...and usually, we hear about the games pretty far in advance. It might be that the video is just a video, and that's all they're doing for the anniversary.

Neo23
10-01-2006, 07:04 PM
I for one thinks snkp is getting better with their releases (except metal slug 3d), so I definitely welcome MOTW 2. No need to bash it yet, just try it out when it arrives, it may bring a surprise.

Violent Ryo
10-01-2006, 07:23 PM
Would it be wrong to assume, that Playmore has directed more interest and attention from ignorant/mainstream/Capcom fanboy gamers to their games than SNK ever did?

Anyway, I hope this teaser is about a new MOTW and not some movie.

mainman
10-01-2006, 07:32 PM
where the fuck are all these unknowns coming from with their SNKP hate?


If your referring to me roker I have been here 2 years longer than you have assuming you have not changed user name and even then I have been here since 2001. I guess I'm lesser know because I don't make as much drama as you and as such don't try to stand out, additionally I only hang out in two or three forums exclusively here and don't talk so much about unrelated things. My post count despite my almost five years membership proves that. I don't hate SNKP, I have never said I did. I am just stating their track record to date that they don't seem to get it right on their first try.



I for one thinks snkp is getting better with their releases (except metal slug 3d), so I definitely welcome MOTW. No need to bash it yet, just try it out when it arrives, it may bring a surprise.

Although slowly it is surely becoming true as others have pointed out using Metal Slug 6 and King of fighters 11 as examples.



Would it be wrong to assume, that Playmore has directed more interest and attention from ignorant/mainstream/Capcom fanboy gamers to their games than SNK ever did?

Better management, I'm not denying that, but management and development are two different departments and their R&D is just now starting to catch up to the other hand.

MattMan
10-01-2006, 07:34 PM
Dont get me wrong I dont HATE SNKP, Im just saying I was a little displeased with some of their work. Bringing up MS 4 and 5... I loved MS 1-3 now 4 and 5 were pretty interesting to play but it just lacked that origional luster that they did have, also I was completly baffled with the last boss of 5 but still felt pretty neat to fight.

roker
10-01-2006, 07:44 PM
If your referring to me roker I have been here 2 years longer than you have assuming you have not changed user name and even then I have been here since 2001. I guess I'm lesser know because I don't make as much drama as you and as such don't try to stand out, additionally I only hang out in two or three forums exclusively here and don't talk so much about unrelated things. My post count despite my almost five years membership proves that. I don't hate SNKP, I have never said I did. I am just stating their track record to date that they don't seem to get it right on their first try.

I'm referring to you and others

I don't care when you joined

and if this isn't "drama" then I don't know what is

SouthtownKid
10-01-2006, 07:57 PM
I don't hate SNKP, I have never said I did. I am just stating their track record to date that they don't seem to get it right on their first try.Street Smart
Fatal Fury 1

Nobody gets it right on their first try.

MattMan
10-01-2006, 08:03 PM
Street Smart
Fatal Fury 1

Nobody gets it right on their first try.

Oh my... fatal fury 1... I feel bad for my buddy who has the Genesis port of it :kekeke:

mainman
10-01-2006, 08:23 PM
I'm referring to you and others

I don't care when you joined

and if this isn't "drama" then I don't know what is

Well you asked where are all the unknows were coming from.


You don't care when I joined. So you base a person standing in the community on post counts and popularity and not what they contribute or their senority. A noob can open a acount and drive their post up to the thousands and become better know than someone who has been here from the start and at the same time not even once have commented on anything neo or arcade related in general, hell thats what the more popular member here do.

If we go by that standard than more than 90 percent of the members here are unknow and such opinions are subject for judgement from the more socially active members as yourself. I didn't post for drama I was just posting about a possisible follow up to MOTW. Your very first post on the topic was a drama starter and didn't even include a comment on the subject itself.


Street Smart
Fatal Fury 1

Nobody gets it right on their first try.

True but at that time fatal fury was a new ideal, when playmore continues a establish franchise they have a product that needs only new ideals added because they already have templates in the saga for comparison

Shoe-A-Palooza
10-01-2006, 08:56 PM
MS 4 & 5 were awful (most, if not everyone, would agree on that), if you are saying 6 is bad though...:loco:

4&5 were mediocre, but at least they had some kick-ass music to make up for it.

gamejunkie
10-01-2006, 09:01 PM
I swear some of you guys just amaze me... How can you not like Samurai Showdown 6?

Quit turning the topic into a sausagefest.

Shoe-A-Palooza
10-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Oh my... fatal fury 1... I feel bad for my buddy who has the Genesis port of it :kekeke:

Did the Genesis version have load-times like the SNES version?

:hcb: :forw: :A:
Aregedena-Fino!!

MattMan
10-01-2006, 10:04 PM
Did the Genesis version have load-times like the SNES version?

:hcb: :forw: :A:
Aregedena-Fino!!

Im not sure I havent played it yet, but I think im goann have too just to see what its like.

-Hibikster-
10-01-2006, 10:23 PM
To mainman:

For a guy who has been in the scene for a while, I'm surprised how you can make such assumptions about SNKP.

They've been in financial and copyright turmoil for a very good while. Only up until recently have they gotten their feet planted in the floor and are able to go full force with making their games. So techincally years 2003 and 2004 can be excused as its not that they didn't want to put effort into their games, its just that they couldn't.


True but at that time fatal fury was a new ideal, when playmore continues a establish franchise they have a product that needs only new ideals added because they already have templates in the saga for comparison

SNKP is all about bringing something new to the table; I noticed that with their fighters especially, the only thing that they pretty much borrow from older games is that the old game characters show up, but that's as far as they will go. They will go ahead and implement them in the new fighting game engines. They did it when they pretty much scrapped all the older KOF engines and started afresh with KOF 2k3, then finetuned it in KOF XI. They also did it with the SVC Chaos engine and fine-tuned it with NGBC. We now have reputable and balanced 2D fighters and things will only get better from hereon in.

mainman
10-01-2006, 10:45 PM
To mainman:

For a guy who has been in the scene for a while, I'm surprised how you can make such assumptions about SNKP.

They've been in financial and copyright turmoil for a very good while. Only up until recently have they gotten their feet planted in the floor and are able to go full force with making their games. So techincally years 2003 and 2004 can be excused as its not that they didn't want to put effort into their games, its just that they couldn't.



SNKP is all about bringing something new to the table; I noticed that with their fighters especially, the only thing that they pretty much borrow from older games is that the old game characters show up, but that's as far as they will go. They will go ahead and implement them in the new fighting game engines. They did it when they pretty much scrapped all the older KOF engines and started afresh with KOF 2k3, then finetuned it in KOF XI. They also did it with the SVC Chaos engine and fine-tuned it with NGBC. We now have reputable and balanced 2D fighters and things will only get better from hereon in.


Yeah I know about their internal problems they where having but still they did what they did and published what they published. I give it to them they had to work within a budget and had to do what they did to survive but you still have to take it at face value.

What I mean about established is they have a huge list of characters and their franchises to draw upon that already have a fan base, their not reinventing the wheel just improving it. 2K3 was a radical upgrade to the game engine but nothing we haven't seen before, 3 on 3 tag action sound familar does it.

But yes as of lately things are looking better for them

-Hibikster-
10-01-2006, 10:50 PM
A fighting game engine is more than just imitating ideas, it's about making it "work". This was their first attempt to implement a 3 on 3 tag match in the KOF series, which they did a great job in doing.

Oh and for the record, you're confusing engines and concepts. MVC2 engine != 2k3 engine.

CyberAkuma
10-01-2006, 10:57 PM
You would think they would utilize the AW some more, considering the amount of hardware already installed and active in current arcades in Japan. I am sad to see that system go so soon :(

Eh, the more I look back on it, the more that the AW seemed to be more or less an aborted affair on so many parties' ends, such that it practically seemed to be a repeat of the story that made up the CPS3's life.

The AW wasn't supported all that much...not even by its main publisher, Sega/Sammy. And many other developers decided to stick with the likes of Naomi and its sequel. It seemed more to me that the AW was just the poor, maligned bastard that only got attention every once in a while (thanks to the likes of GGIsuka, the KOF games, Metal Slug 6 and HnK), but in all other respects, it almost seemed like Sega/Sammy only used it as a transitional phase before heralding their new Lindbergh and Aurora boards.

The story seemed to be the same on SNKP's end, in that, the AW was only meant to be a means for them to get back on their feet after they left their old home, the MVS. Now that they're more or less ready to spread their wings, they move on too, and now the TX2 is their base of operations.

So, while I feel some what sorry to say good-bye to the AW, again, it's just like the CPS3 was to me. A good system that was doomed to be rendered obsolete sooner than expected, thanks, in no part, to the system's own "family" not supporting it well enough...

lachlan
10-02-2006, 12:08 AM
Hopefully this news means a sequel, I've had heaps of fun with MOTW and a sequel would just be awesome.

All I need now is AOF4 and i'll be st. ;)

roker
10-02-2006, 02:05 AM
Well you asked where are all the unknows were coming from.


You don't care when I joined. So you base a person standing in the community on post counts and popularity and not what they contribute or their senority. A noob can open a acount and drive their post up to the thousands and become better know than someone who has been here from the start and at the same time not even once have commented on anything neo or arcade related in general, hell thats what the more popular member here do.

If we go by that standard than more than 90 percent of the members here are unknow and such opinions are subject for judgement from the more socially active members as yourself. I didn't post for drama I was just posting about a possisible follow up to MOTW. Your very first post on the topic was a drama starter and didn't even include a comment on the subject itself.



True but at that time fatal fury was a new ideal, when playmore continues a establish franchise they have a product that needs only new ideals added because they already have templates in the saga for comparison


ha ha

and I'm supposed to be about drama

I can't wait for you to write a few more paragraphs

after these few lines of thoughts . . .

billd420
10-02-2006, 07:58 AM
With out a doubt in my mind, if MOTW2 is coin op it WILL be on Type X2. This really stinks however for us non-arcade op fans. The Type X2 is just plain EXPENSIVE and will be for a long time. Us fans are going to either have to wait for a port, or clunk down $2500+ for a MOTW2 setup.

Nothing has been confirmed yet, but that would be sick if a new MOTW dropped. MOTW is to Fatal Fury as 3rd Strike is to Street Fighter, 2d fighting perfection.

-Big Bill

Magnaflux
10-02-2006, 08:37 AM
I swear some of you guys just amaze me... How can you not like Samurai Showdown 6?

Quit turning the topic into a sausagefest.

SS6 kicks ass.

I'll have to write Playmore and inform them of American customs. Judging from those pictures on page 1, Playmore got it all wrong.


Terry would never ride bitch. :mad:

You people complaining about Fatal Fury should be slapped. That game is still awesome.

SSS
10-02-2006, 08:56 AM
I swear some of you guys just amaze me... How can you not like Samurai Showdown 6?

Quit turning the topic into a sausagefest.

Because it looks like it was turned over to Capcom in their Darkstalkers/ VS. series era.

kernow
10-02-2006, 09:32 AM
what? tenka was a joke

CyberAkuma
10-02-2006, 09:43 AM
With out a doubt in my mind, if MOTW2 is coin op it WILL be on Type X2. This really stinks however for us non-arcade op fans. The Type X2 is just plain EXPENSIVE and will be for a long time. Us fans are going to either have to wait for a port, or clunk down $2500+ for a MOTW2 setup.

Nothing has been confirmed yet, but that would be sick if a new MOTW dropped. MOTW is to Fatal Fury as 3rd Strike is to Street Fighter, 2d fighting perfection.

-Big Bill

Well, if it means anything to ya, the fact that the TX2 is basically a bunch of PC hardware implies that it will be both easy to dev for...and easy to port from. :D So, logically speaking, it shouldn't be that long to wait for a home console port for any given TX2 game...at least, as long as SNKP doesn't do anything uttterly assinine like Arc Systems is doing with HnK (MARCH 07?! AFTER ALREADY A WHOLE YEAR OF WAITING?! WTF~!?).

If the Wii ends up being the most "2D/low production value-friendly" console of this next generation, I could easily see the TX2 and Wii being good business partners...:D

And also....


Originally Posted by TRIEU of snk-capcom.com

As some of you may have read in some of our previous articles and around the internet, the sequel to Mark of the Wolves was about 75% done, which was originally planned for the NEOēGEO MVS/AES release. Because of SNK's situation at the time, it was postponed and was later revisited; however, with so many new systems out now, there is no point to release a game that is outdated in terms of it's graphical presentation.

What we have confirmed is that there will be another Mark of the Wolves, but one that is made from scratch, from the artwork, sprites to the game engine itself.

MOTW's sequel or it's extension will be unveiled first on Taito's arcade board and later ported over to the home consoles.

Well, if this is true...then huzzah! Huzzah in the highest! :mr_t: :chimp: :buttrock:

manly_pirate
10-02-2006, 02:05 PM
This is awesome news. Why would anyone not want a sequel? Even if it's shitty it's not like it will make any of the other Fatal Fury games less fun and there's a chance it will be great. And more Blue Mary is always good :drool_2:

Gowcaizer
10-02-2006, 02:07 PM
To be honest I havent like the SNK-Playmore's games at all, lets say SNKvsCapcom Chaos, Samurai Shodown Tenka and Neo Geo Battle Coliseum (I liked it but not too much as I was expecting), and still games like KOF 98, FFRB, FFRB sp, FFRB 2, Last Blade, the old Metal Slugs and course Garou are better than them all, I hope that if they are working in a secuel of MOTW(the best game and the greatest saga on the NeoGeo IMHO ) I only hope they dont shit it all, is a great game and it deserves an excellent secuel if not, leave it alone.

SouthtownKid
10-02-2006, 02:41 PM
And also....Trieu posts his guesses as if they were facts.


What we have confirmed is that there will be another Mark of the Wolves, but one that is made from scratch, from the artwork, sprites to the game engine itself.

MOTW's sequel or it's extension will be unveiled first on Taito's arcade board and later ported over to the home consoles....is a guess. Same as he's been guessing about a release of a new MotW for years now. As new circumstances come about, like SNKP changing hardware, he changes elements of his guesses -- that's all. Nothing is confirmed.

derboo
10-02-2006, 05:00 PM
When asked about MOTW2 in interviews, they always say something like "We're sorry, we try to find other ways to finish the story". They often mentioned Maximum Impact, which contains Rock Howard. Such a DVD could be another means to "finish the story".
Still think that a sequel is rather improbable.

IL COACH
10-02-2006, 05:25 PM
WTFZOMG MOTW2

neojedi
10-02-2006, 06:26 PM
Terry would never ride bitch. :mad:
I think he would... he's the submissive to pretty much every chick he's ever had a relationship with. :p Blue Mary could put him on a leash. :p

Now Rock would never ride bitch. Geese would never ride period, but if his limo was busted and he needed to take his woman-of-the-moment's bike, he'd kick the chick to the curb first then drive off laughing. :)

Re: MOTW 2: I need to see confirmation on SNKP's homepage before I believe it's on the way. Regardless, here's hoping SNKP can port for the X2 as good as they did for the Atomiswave.

Shoe-A-Palooza
10-02-2006, 06:45 PM
JOIN THE CAMPAIGN FOR A JERSEY FREE U.S.

Why do you hate New Jersey?

gamejunkie
10-02-2006, 10:36 PM
SS6 kicks ass.

I'll have to write Playmore and inform them of American customs. Judging from those pictures on page 1, Playmore got it all wrong.


Terry would never ride bitch. :mad:

You people complaining about Fatal Fury should be slapped. That game is still awesome.

We should have been on that at OVGE.

Yeah, Terry on the back had me going WTF?... But you know, I would probably ride behind too just so she could break wind for my hair.
:kekeke:

SSS
10-02-2006, 11:06 PM
Why do you hate New Jersey?

The question is "Why would one like New Jersey?"

Michael Yagami
10-02-2006, 11:34 PM
I'm suprised so many people actually want SNKP to release MOTW2. Especially after seeing what SNKP has done with the other SNK properties they've put their hands on. Do you people really want to see another one of SNK's masterpieces drug through the mud?

sliceypete
10-03-2006, 12:19 AM
I'm suprised so many people actually want SNKP to release MOTW2. Especially after seeing what SNKP has done with the other SNK properties they've put their hands on. Do you people really want to see another one of SNK's masterpieces drug through the mud?

wtf are you talking about, i mean the first couple of games they made sucked but have you played kof XI it's a fucking ace, i wouldn't mind motw2 if it was as good as XI:make_fac:

SouthtownKid
10-03-2006, 01:14 AM
I'm suprised so many people actually want SNKP to release MOTW2. Especially after seeing what SNKP has done with the other SNK properties they've put their hands on. Do you people really want to see another one of SNK's masterpieces drug through the mud?That argument held a lot more water before their last few releases.

Loopz
10-03-2006, 01:57 AM
That argument held a lot more water before their last few releases.

No one slung nearly as much shit Playmore's way than I did, especially around
time SvC came out...but the fact is, they've been on a real roll lately. KOFXI is
fucking ace, I enjoyed SS Tenka and MS6 was very well done. I still don't know
if they're ready to take on a game with the storied pedigree of MOTW but if they
wanna give it a shot I'd love to play it.

It's got to be nothing short of amazing to really satisfy the fans though, that's for sure.

Robert
10-03-2006, 02:05 AM
No one slung nearly as much shit Playmore's way than I did, especially around
time SvC came out...but the fact is, they've been on a real roll lately. KOFXI is
fucking ace, I enjoyed SS Tenka and MS6 was very well done. I still don't know
if they're ready to take on a game with the storied pedigree of MOTW but if they
wanna give it a shot I'd love to play it.

It's got to be nothing short of amazing to really satisfy the fans though, that's for sure.

That's exactly what I wanted to write.
The last Playmore games were more than good and I really want to see what they can do with the MOTW franchise.
The original game wasn't a success so I'm a little surprise to see a sequel but the 15th garou anniversary could be the right time....

CyberAkuma
10-03-2006, 09:37 AM
The original game wasn't a success so I'm a little surprise to see a sequel but the 15th garou anniversary could be the right time....

Well, that...plus the fact that SNKP doesn't necessarily have to worry about piracy nearly AS much as they did back when MOTW came out, also paints a nicer picture for a new MOTW game.

Magnaflux
10-03-2006, 09:55 AM
No one slung nearly as much shit Playmore's way than I did, especially around
time SvC came out...but the fact is, they've been on a real roll lately. KOFXI is
fucking ace, I enjoyed SS Tenka and MS6 was very well done. I still don't know
if they're ready to take on a game with the storied pedigree of MOTW but if they
wanna give it a shot I'd love to play it.

It's got to be nothing short of amazing to really satisfy the fans though, that's for sure.

100% my sentiments.

I was skeptical going into Tenka/Kof XI but now I'm confident SNKP can make a good garou. The new team moving onto

There's still a bit of stink in Kof XI from SVC, I hope they finally purge that out if MOTW II ever sees the light of day.

steve11
10-04-2006, 09:31 AM
Might as well inject my 2 cents-

I donít think SNKP is really inferior to SNK. SNK had itís share of stinkers and screw ups, SNKP started off rough and (as was expected) has had some issues along the way. Though honestly all the Atomiswave games I purchased from them (SS Tenka, KOF XI, MS6) were pretty damn good. Yeah I can pick small issues to pitch a fit over (no blood in tenka LOL), but in truth the gameplay is fairly solid, the games are fun, and Iíve been playing them regularly.

They have definetly moved in the right direction and their quality is improving. Iím not as gun shy about their products as I once was.

My main worry is the mass migration to the Taito X2. While the platform is powerful, versatile, and blah blah, I canít help but look at the prices of even the X and think ďHoly fuck thatís what it costsĒ. Itís absurdly expensive for the parts that go into it, is completely unnecessary for the type of games they produce, and will ultimately alienate a fair amount of people that would have continued to purchase their products on the atomiswave.

One of the great things about SNK games is that you were always able to own the original game at a reasonable price. Yeah the AES was pricey, and true even an MVS cost of ownership ends up being a ton more expensive then any console. However for what you got the prices were great and both offered a true experience. Even the atomiswave isnít that pricey when you look at it.

Going to the X2 could change all that. I donít want to play ports, but if the cost of ownership is insanely high I might not have a choice.

Though Iíll withhold judgement till the products are released.

not sonic
10-04-2006, 11:47 AM
dont forget normal people dont buy arcade hardware and snk doesnt expect you to.

plus the mvs hardware is how old, (even atomis wave is based on old hardware) which is what makes it affordable.

back in the 90s or whatever, $350 for an ngh game was cheap compared to the mvs cost.

i think some people forget this.

im just hoping the next round of ports wont be defaulted to the ps2, or stay in japan.

RATM
10-04-2006, 03:41 PM
I'd say SNKP has at least been on the right track lately. Something alot of people forgot is that when SNK went out of business they were really fucking broke. I think it's safe to assume SNKP had very little in the way of financial resources early on in their career. Redrawing 2D sprites is really expensive, hence you won't see Capcom (who is definitly a more stable company) doing another 2D street fighter anytime soon. My point being, SNKP used what they had at the time and the end result was MS4 and 5, and several King Of Fighters games. No one is going to put those games in the top 10, but I like to believe those games enabled them to make more focused projects such as Neo Geo Battle Collesium and King of Fighters XI.

Fast forward to where we are now, I think SNKP has alot more going for itself, and this will be evident in the next King Of Fighters (completely redrawn) and hopefully a Garou sequel.

I think the real issue as of now isn't SNKP's inability to produce a completed, professional product, but more of a fact that Mark Of the Wolves is a way above average game. One of the best games of the 90s, and one of the best fighting games of all time. I would venture to say that even the "real" SNK would have a hell of a time making a sequel that pleased fans of the original. Needless to say, there are some very big shoes to fill, and it's not the first time a video game company has had to deal with this issue. I mean, honestly, how many people would say they prefer SS4 over SS2? It's regardless that SS4 is fun and solid game, SS2 set a standard and still retains a sort of "legendary" status.

LoneSage
10-04-2006, 09:58 PM
im just hoping the next round of ports wont be defaulted to the ps2, or stay in japan.

The fanbase on PS2 is the largest, if there were ports on Xbox or GC it would be like a shot in the foot, financially.
I don't expect SNKUSA to port anything that's Japan-only over here.

Violent Ryo
10-04-2006, 10:39 PM
It's safe to assume the PS2 will be alive for a good while in Japan, so yes Playmore will keep supporting it, which I have no problems with, having a modded PS2.

I just can't wait for new announcements...and I do think this new interest in a MOTW might just lead to a new game.

Who knows...

ViewtifulZFO
10-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Um...there doesn't seem to be any confirmation for an MOTW 2 anywhere in the first post. Or anywhere in this thread for that matter.

I think I just wasted 20 minutes.

gamejunkie
10-17-2006, 01:04 PM
Um...there doesn't seem to be any confirmation for an MOTW 2 anywhere in the first post. Or anywhere in this thread for that matter.

I think I just wasted 20 minutes.

OMG!!! Do you want them back?

ViewtifulZFO
10-17-2006, 02:31 PM
OMG!!! Do you want them back?

Yes. Send them in the mail.

gamejunkie
10-17-2006, 06:25 PM
Yes. Send them in the mail.

Because time is a continuous quanity, you could never break the time sent into countable values to determine if the correct amount of time sent was indeed the amount desired.

kroko^unleashed
10-19-2006, 10:19 AM
So there will be more motw-chars in kofxii and there repainting the sprites so they will have new sprites for a new motw hm.. hope is the last thing to die :F

roker
10-19-2006, 11:44 AM
there repainting the sprites

re-drawing the sprites

derboo
10-19-2006, 11:06 PM
WOW, they really announced a new Garou Game :p

http://slot.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/garou/

:lolz:

JammaGuy
10-19-2006, 11:10 PM
wait, that post above is a slot machine, so is this for real a new arcade video game, or a slot machine?

-idosk8

kroko^unleashed
10-19-2006, 11:40 PM
as you see, it is a slotmachine. because of the 15th anniversary <:

SouthtownKid
10-20-2006, 04:26 AM
If nothing else, I guess the slot machine confirms the story of the first Fatal Fury taking place in '91 (says Jeff dies in 1981), for anyone who was still wondering. I guess I'd kind of like to see this as a curiousity, even though few things bore me as much as a slot machine. But who the fuck is Alice?

Matarick
10-20-2006, 09:22 AM
WOW, they really announced a new Garou Game :p

http://slot.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/garou/

:lolz:


DS port for the win but realistically it would be out on a more higher resolution system like the PS2. I rarely get excited about slot machines but this takes the cake.

As for Garou MotW 2, I hope it comes out on PS2 or a PS3 downloadable :drool_2:

Violent Ryo
10-20-2006, 11:18 AM
WOW, they really announced a new Garou Game :p

http://slot.snkplaymore.co.jp/official/garou/

:lolz:

Damn, that looks pretty hot, and I'm not even a big FF fan.

VanillaThunder
10-20-2006, 08:09 PM
Everyone is ranting about SNKP putting out stinkers...

Do we forget:

Top Player's Golf
Mutation Nation
LOSJ
Eight Man
Robo Army
Sengoku 2001
Joy Joy Kid
Football Frenzy
2020

Please, people.. SNK sucked a lot of dick in its day.

SpongeBobSNK
10-20-2006, 10:04 PM
I don't care if they sucked it like a 2 dollar ho, I like Robo Army.

Cain Highwind
10-21-2006, 02:11 AM
But who the fuck is Alice?

I was curious about that myself, she seems kind of familiar, but...no she's a new character. And she wears Terry's hat...huh?

Fygee
10-21-2006, 07:18 AM
Everyone is ranting about SNKP putting out stinkers...

Do we forget:

Top Player's Golf
Mutation Nation
LOSJ
Eight Man
Robo Army
Sengoku 2001
Joy Joy Kid
Football Frenzy
2020

Please, people.. SNK sucked a lot of dick in its day.

To be fair though, pretty much all the games you listed there were very early releases back when SNK didn't have quite a firm grasp on the hardware and implimentation of game mechanics.

It's basically the same deal with SNKP. They were new, they released some reasonably sub par games (though I found them to be much better than SNK's starting titles), and are now finding their footing and releasing quality stuff.

kroko^unleashed
10-21-2006, 09:20 AM
To be fair though, pretty much all the games you listed there were very early releases back when SNK didn't have quite a firm grasp on the hardware and implimentation of game mechanics.

It's basically the same deal with SNKP. They were new, they released some reasonably sub par games (though I found them to be much better than SNK's starting titles), and are now finding their footing and releasing quality stuff.
Thats so true mate. i like kofxi much. if they touch motw2, it can be a really good game.

Izlude
10-21-2006, 03:24 PM
I would love to see another Garou game, but I think the gameplay could use some tweaking because MOTW didn't feel like a Garou game at all to me. It felt more like another KOF than a Garou game. They gotta add back the line battle from the series, and tighten up some of the gameplay mechanics, like break moves for example. While they they were a neat feature, they made for all too easy launcher combo's.

One of the other things that bugged me in MOTW was that almost every super was done with a QCFx2 motion, making it very easy to pull out supers whenever you wanted, not to mention accidently using them. MOTW has some awesome controls, but maybe they are a little too awesome for it's own good which made it easier to make mistakes.

Finally, some more returning characters would be nice to add to some more variety, which I think MOTW was severly lacking in. Mary, Andy and Mai are a given, but others like Rick Strowd and Xiang-Fei would be great since they have practically no story in RB2 at all, and some old favorites like Richard, Bash, Yamazaki, Billy, etc, would really beef it up. A couple new faces couldn't hurt ethier.

Cain Highwind
10-21-2006, 09:41 PM
NOW I know who Alice is, and I can't believe I forgot. She's that unused character design from the Real Bout Dominated Mind bonus disc I discovered recently.

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7991/snkfun011210pm9.th.png (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snkfun011210pm9.png)


Alice in Tae Kwon Do Garb
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6942/snkfun011211lq4.th.png (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snkfun011211lq4.png)

Another Alternate design for Alice:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4531/snkfun011212ub5.th.png (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snkfun011212ub5.png)

Alice with Shorts:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3817/snkfun011213wn6.th.png (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snkfun011213wn6.png)

Alice with Pants:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/450/snkfun011214ha1.th.png (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snkfun011214ha1.png)

So yeah I guess they just dug this one up. It looks like she has a last name too, but that's as big as the pictures come, and I don't know enough Japanese to clarify.

Izlude
10-22-2006, 02:16 AM
Alice in Tae Kwon Do Garb
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6942/snkfun011211lq4.th.png (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snkfun011211lq4.png)

Chae Lim is that you? :lol:

Frankfurt
10-22-2006, 09:21 AM
It felt more like another KOF than a Garou game.

MOTW doesn't feel like KOF at all, dude. Besides having only one plane of action, they are nothing alike.

Izlude
10-22-2006, 03:19 PM
MOTW doesn't feel like KOF at all, dude. Besides having only one plane of action, they are nothing alike.

Well, it feels like a KOF to me, because it surely doesn't feel like the Garou before it. The controls in the older games, especially the Real Bout series felt more loosened up and smooth, but the controls in MOTW feel alot more tight and fluid like KOF. Just my opinion anyways, but that's how I feel about them. One of my online buddies compares MOTW to Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Not Street Fighter 3 as alot of other people do), I'm not exactly sure how he see's that, but I can probably imagine.

VanillaThunder
10-22-2006, 03:51 PM
Well, it feels like a KOF to me, because it surely doesn't feel like the Garou before it. The controls in the older games, especially the Real Bout series felt more loosened up and smooth, but the controls in MOTW feel alot more tight and fluid like KOF. Just my opinion anyways, but that's how I feel about them. One of my online buddies compares MOTW to Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Not Street Fighter 3 as alot of other people do), I'm not exactly sure how he see's that, but I can probably imagine.


Let's see:

No Tag System
Emphasis on more Defensive play (Just Defend)
Completely different SDM/DM system
No Strikers or Tag (Post KOF 99)
Slower, Methodical Pace
Move Feinting
Darker, Lush art style opposed to Cartoony/Anime Look


I see how you and your friend have a point, because besides all that, they're exactly the same. http://www.dionysians.org/forum/images/smilies/jerkit.gifhttp://www.dionysians.org/forum/images/smilies/jerkit.gif

Izlude
10-22-2006, 04:35 PM
Slower, Methodical Pace


Really? I always thought of MOTW being a pretty fast paced game, but then again I've seen very high level gameplay matches and they drag on forever, but matches I play againest online can end as quickly as 10-20 seconds, but that's just because I suck so much at the game. :lolz:

megashock_330
10-22-2006, 06:02 PM
so is MOTW 2 coming or what :conf:

anybody know's?? :help:

Izlude
10-22-2006, 06:41 PM
so is MOTW 2 coming or what :conf:

anybody know's?? :help:

From interviews I've read, they always say it's possible if there is enough demand for it. I remember I think like last year in an interview, they said Samurai Spirits Tenka would be the last SS game unless there was enough demand for another one, and surely enough, SNKP is working on a new (3D) SS game.

I wouldn't be too surprised if a new Garou game is made, not counting that slot machine.

kroko^unleashed
10-22-2006, 08:42 PM
i bet my pants on a new motw is coming next year right after the new kof :x
and a new street fighter too :O it`s because, let me say it in german: "ich habe es im Urin" <:

derboo
10-22-2006, 11:59 PM
I just saw that the english translation of the Planet SNK-Interview still isn't there. Here their question about MotW2 (that means it's japanese-to-german-to-english, last step done by me, so no 100% accuracy guaranteed (at all):


What happened to the sequel to Garou: Mark of the Wolfes? The games' story isn't finished yet.


This question is often asked by japanese fans, too. Let aside the question how far we are still concentrating on the 2D sector, we sure know that we can't just leave the storyline like that. As you know, Rock from Mark of the Wolfes is featured in King of Fighters: Maximum Impact. So i intend to connect the Story, the remaining mysteries and the question about what's happening with Rock with the King of Fighters: Maximum Impact story and continue it. Until 2008 we want to clarify these questions within King of Fighters: Maximum Impact. Now I already said to much (laughs)

Bold text also by me, just for the people who are to lazy to read the whole thing.

NeoEsZ
10-23-2006, 05:05 PM
So Maximum Impact 3 = garou 2?

GeoStigma
10-23-2006, 05:12 PM
So Maximum Impact 3 = garou 2?

It would seem that is the case to some extent. :(

kroko^unleashed
10-23-2006, 09:45 PM
So Maximum Impact 3 = garou 2?
you mean motw2. But i have always hope that there will be a true motw2 :/

Electric Grave
10-31-2006, 09:58 AM
Street Smart
Fatal Fury 1

Nobody gets it right on their first try.
Hey Man! Don't bash my multi layered stragetistical full fledge violent fest that is Street Smart.:loco:

I know it's kind of a crappy game in a good way though, or maybe I'm just nostalgic. I grew up with this game, when I was 12, and there was no Street Fighter & Co. yet, this game along iwth R-Type ruled my arcade for a while.

I think Fatal Fury one is fun, let me explain; for a person like me is fun, because of history, and nostalgic reasons, but I can't argue the fact that is clunky as hell!

Talking about history, het remember the post of the prequel to the Fatal Fury series? Now bear with me for a sec, Street Smart has Takuma & Young Gueese! (I'm such a fanboy sometimes!)

I figure out of most people here you would apprecciate this.

Electric Grave
11-01-2006, 01:08 PM
if you wanna talk clunky, talk AOF2. how can a game that came out 3 years later be more clunky than FF1? the king of Kunk?
As a matter of fact AOF2's great, I don't think is clucky at all, the AOF series play different to anything else except for 3, which is more friendly towards the common fighting player.

AOF 1 and 2 are more of a technical fighting game, where strategy counts a lot.

Now Fighting Fever is the king of all clunky games, I don't understand why some people make a big fuss about this game, plus I see some people pay way too much to get this game, I just don't get it, but to each it's own.

taitai
11-01-2006, 02:48 PM
Holy crap, street smart is freaking awesome.