So the PSP is getting its ass kicked.

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DS Owns Japanese PSP Sales in July
Unit vs. unit sales aren't even close, but it isn't as bad as it sounds.
by Jeremy Dunham and Craig Harris

September 8, 2006 - According to the latest reports from Enterbrain/ Famitsu's official data service, the month of July wasn't a very competitive one in regards to Japanese "PSP vs. DS" software sales. Of the top 50 selling games in that region for the month, nine of them were PSP titles against 23 games for the DS.

Six of the top 10 Japanese sellers were released for Nintendo's Dual-Screen handheld system (in fact, four of the top five), while the highest spot that a PSP game could manage was #16 (Tekken: Dark Resurrection). Also, with the exception of Winning Eleven 10 for the PlayStation 2, the only million-selling games in this top 50 were titles made for the Nintendo DS platform: New Super Mario Bros., Brain Age, Big Brain Academy, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart DS have exceeded more than a million units sold apiece, with several of them selling more than double that.

Even more interesting is in the hardware numbers -- in the Japanese market, the PlayStation Portable is pretty much neck and neck with Nintendo DS system in units sold: 1.3 million systems sold each. But that's the original Nintendo DS system, the one that is no longer being manufactured or sold in Japan. The DS Lite skyrockets that number into the stratosphere: close to 4 million DS Lite systems have been sold since the formats introduction, which, combined with the original unit, kicks the system numbers through the roof at nearly five DS systems for every one PSP sold.

On the side, according to Japanese sales numbers the Game Boy line is clearly on its way out. While DS and PSP systems are selling in the millions, this year hasn't been as kind to the Game Boy Advance SP and Game Boy Micro: Only 200,000 SP units and 130,000 Game Boy Micro portables have been sold in Japan.

With rumblings of a possible PSP redesign in the works, this battle may get more heated in 2007. But for now the Nintendo DS is the clear handheld dominator in Japan.
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http://ds.ign.com/articles/731/731871p1.html

I honestly don't really care too much about console wars and crap, so consequently I have not been paying close attention to the whole DS vs PSP thing.

But I had no idea the DS [games and system] sales were this high in Japan.

Pretty impressive for a system that a lot of people were writing off as something that was "too gimmicky" to work in the long run.
 
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Yeah, the last figure I checked (maybe a month or 2 ago) stated 21 million Nintendo DS sold worldwide .vs. 14 million psp's.
 
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Wow... That's not even a close race... :eek:
 
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*waits for PSP fanboys to come in and explain why those figures don't matter or are inaccurate*

Honestly though, who cares?

I think both systems have their moments. I go through phases with both.
 
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I completely agree. I guess I probably like DS more... But, funny thing is, I don't have one at the moment. Hahaha. I really like both though.
 
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Yung Burnout said:
GBA > DS
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The DS plays GBA games. Doesn't that make your argument a bit moot?
Unless you're huge on GBC and original Gameboy games.
 
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KagerouSama said:
The DS plays GBA games. Doesn't that make your argument a bit moot?
Unless you're huge on GBC and original Gameboy games.
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No. Yung is just a rampant PSP fanboy and a DS hater. He's still cool though :emb:
 
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Here are the Japanese console software game sales for the week of Aug 28 - Sep 3:

Phantasy Star Universe (PS2, Sega) - 120,202 units
New Super Mario Bros. (NDS, Nintendo) - 72,763 [2,974,027] units
Kahashima Ryuuta Kyouju Kanshuu: Motto Nouo Kitaeru Otona DS Training (NDS, Nintendo) - 46,662 [3,119,857] units
Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) - 45,949 [549,001] units
Mogitate Tincle no Bara Iro Ruppii Land (NDS, Nintendo) - 45,496 units
Shaberu! DS Oryouri Navi (NDS, Nintendo) - 35,689 [419,733] units
Mario Hoops 3-on-3 (NDS, Nintendo) - 34,001 [267,763] units
Oide yo Doubutsu no Mori [Animal Crossing: Wild World] (NDS, Nintendo) - 32,605 [3,181,735] units
Rhythm Tengoku (GBA, Nintendo) - 28,361 [123,432] units
Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi Gohi-Kini (NDS, Namco Bandai) - 27,540 [458,474] units
N I N T E N D O D S

DS Lite - 228,939 [4,196,826] units
PSP - 27,499 [1,256,343] units
PlayStation 2 - 22,703 [980,143] units
GBA SP - 2,751 [191,942] units
GB Micro - 1,791 [119,351] units
Xbox 360 - 1,250 [69,927] units
GameCube - 855 [63,971] units
Nintendo DS - 320 [953,279] units
GBA - 22 [3,035] units
Xbox - 0 [1,649] units
 
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I like Loco Roco and Legend of Heroes on the PSP (Haven't played UGnG yet), but 85% of its library is PS2 shovelware.
 
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qube said:
*waits for PSP fanboys to come in and explain why those figures don't matter or are inaccurate*

Honestly though, who cares?

I think both systems have their moments. I go through phases with both.
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Agreed, both have their strong suits. I have both and love both. It seems that people who don't have both are the people who are sandy in the vagina about one or the other system.
 
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Jedah Doma said:
It seems that people who don't have both are the people who are sandy in the vagina about one or the other system.
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Or people who simply don't need both.

Sorry, but the combination of a DS and GBA is all the handheld gaming I've needed for quite some time now and I don't need see that changing anytime in the near future.

Maybe I'm one of the few gamers who actually plays his handhelds on-the-go more than at home, but as stated above, the DS is more than enough system to take up my free time outside of the home.

I'm not anti-PSP or anything, I'm actually quite the opposite in the fact that I've been looking for a solid enough reason to justify a purchase.

There's a few games I wouldn't mind owning, but certainly none good enough to warrant the purchase of a system (the emulation is nice too... but again, no point in bothering with that if there's still DS stuff I can play around with.)

Perhaps that will change in the future, but at the current moment?

The DS is all I need.

And it seems that I'm not the only non-fanboy who thinks that way.
 
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Mark of the Wolves said:
Only in Japan.

That is all.

PSP 4 Life.

Vice City Stories next month!
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The DS is beating it in every other region as well. :kekeke:

Just not as hardcore. :kekeke:
 
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Mark of the Wolves said:
Only in Japan.

That is all.

PSP 4 Life.

Vice City Stories next month!
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Was waiting for you. Typical answer.
 
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Vice City Stories, gah, same game, different storyline. An for some reason, I question how many people play GTA games for the story...
 
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Average Joe said:
Sony not doing well in Japan is a really bad sign.
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To be sure. However, it is understandable. PS2 owns Japan primarily because of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest. Neither of which have come out for the PSP or will. Both will be on the DS.

jp. said:
The DS is beating it in every other region as well. :kekeke:

Just not as hardcore. :kekeke:
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The DS launched in every region first. :kekeke:

qube said:
Was waiting for you. Typical answer.
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;) I try.

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Vice City Stories, gah, same game, different storyline. An for some reason, I question how many people play GTA games for the story...
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Well I do. One of the reasons I have yet to finish Liberty City Stories is that the story got boring.
 
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I'm fairly certain that the DS's success in Japan isn't entirely linked to the [very recent] releases of FFIII and Rocket Slime.
 
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Average Joe said:
I'm fairly certain that the DS's success in Japan isn't entirely linked to the [very recent] releases of FFIII and Rocket Slime.
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I don't either. That is obviously because of Nintendo's First Party games.
 
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Well... your post above seemed to insinuate that the DS wasn't doing so well in Japan strictly because of a lack of Square-Enix support--not because of a combination of that and a fairly healthy supply of great 1st party Nintendo games.

I mean... which reason is it that the PSP is falling behind the DS in terms of software sales in Japan?

Because of 1st part Nintendo games?

Square-Enix games?

Both?

Or that the DS just has an all-around better line-up of games than the PSP?
 
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kind of ironic that on this message board there are people that care what place thier system of choice is in when I assume most of us favor a system came in, well didn't even compare what so ever to other in sales
 
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Average Joe said:
Well... your post above seemed to insinuate that the DS wasn't doing so well in Japan strictly because of a lack of Square-Enix support--not because of a combination of that and a fairly healthy supply of great 1st party Nintendo games.

I mean... which reason is it that the PSP is falling behind the DS in terms of software sales in Japan?

Because of 1st part Nintendo games?

Square-Enix games?

Both?

Or that the DS just has an all-around better line-up of games than the PSP?
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I have both a DS and a PSP and love them both. That being said, I think DS simply has superior software at the moment.
To answer your question, I think because of both. Take a look at the 9/15 issue of Famitsu' Top 10:

1: New Super Mario Brothers (DS)
2: Tamagotchi DS (DS)
3: DS Talking Cooking Navi (DS)
4: Brain Age Two (DS)
5: Melty Blood Act Cadenza (PS2)
6: SD Gandam G Generation Portable (PSP)
7: New Pachinko Slot SE (PS2)
8: Brain Age (DS)
9: Animal Crossing (DS)
10: Mario 3on3 Basketball (DS)

7 out of the top 10 games are for DS! Out of those 7, 6 of them are made by Nintendo. For Japan, DS just has the games that is appealing to the Japanese crowd. On top of that, there are a lot of very useful apps like various Japanese-English/English-Japanese dictionaries for the DS, web browser, language software for traveling (like Thai, Chinese, Korean) and such.

Out of the entire Top 30, 17 are DS games. DS simply has the games right now and that is what is doing it. Also, Nintendo has really gone after different demographics (such as older men and women in general) with the Touch! DS series of games, Pink DS Lites, and cooking games. PSP really does not have anything very appealing to either of those groups.

I would not be suprised that in the next issue DS will hold all 10 spots because I am positive FFIII will be pushing one of the titles out of there and Pachinko and Gundam games probably will not last very long in the top 10. Just my two cents....
 
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I'd say the PSP wasn't doing so well because of it, yes. No console would do well in Japan without them. Those that don't, haven't done well there. What Franchises do people in Japan buy in droves besides those really?

That isn't to say people didn't buy New Super Mario Brothers, Animal Crossing, Nintendogs, Brain Age, or whatever else sold millions of copies.

EDIT: I will say that the DS has a better lineup all around.
 
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It is also interesting to point out that the DS is selling somewhere around 250k units a week. That is really an amazing number seeming that I heard Sony is only going to have around 500k PS3s available for launch.
Even though I am sure Sony will sell a lot of PS3s (especially when Final Fantasy XIII, RE5 and such come out), I think Sony is really heading into some rough water and will lose ground (in America, not Japan) to Microsoft and will lose a ton of ground to Nintendo (worldwide). I predict Wii and DS is going to make Nintendo the winner (or a pretty close 2nd) of this generation's system wars.
 
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