CRT v.s. LCD?

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I currently am looking at a 24" 16:9 CRT or a 23" 16:9 LCD for gameing. I would like to get a 30" but I havent been able to find anything that big.

I kind of notice some bluring and not as much crispness out of non crt monitors, any one had expirence with this?
 

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ravenmgs said:
I currently am looking at a 24" 16:9 CRT or a 23" 16:9 LCD for gameing. I would like to get a 30" but I havent been able to find anything that big.

I kind of notice some bluring and not as much crispness out of non crt monitors, any one had expirence with this?

yep, cause thats the reality of it. Get a good LCD with a nice contrast ratio, high resolution, and fast response time, and your games will look great. If you want to go CRT get the Samsung or LG Slim fit tvs. Both are awesome for games and have the signiture picture qualioty of a CRT. You can let people throw facts about tvs at you all day long about resolutions, response times, brightness, and all that noise...but in all honesty, go to the store, find what you like, maybe do some reseasrch on the reliablity of it, and buy it. Thats my 2 cents
 

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I have two lcd tv's one 32inch and 30inch

and I have tried all types of games from 360 to dreamcast and they give a fantastic
picture with no blurr at all.

Just depends on what sort of cash you want to spend.
 

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Are they LCD "tv"s or computer monitors? Because I don't know of any LCD TV that comes on par with the Apple Cinema displays and they still have a bit of blur when compared to a trinatron or neo candy.

I have a friend who is a game dev who told me that there are LCD monitors out there that have a lot of blur correction ect.. but he doesn't know much about them because he refuses to use anything but a crt ect... I was just kind of wondering if any one had done any like.. side by side type comparasons with differnt screens.
 

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I used to vilify LCDs, but as the technology matures, I'm starting to become an advocate. That, and it's the path the video, movie and gaming industries have decided to follow.

Your best bet is to follow along too, as the whole industry will soon consider it the standard. For example, sudden support for LCDs has appeared in video production software as of late--the change is coming on the professional level, which means it will certainly trickle down to the consumer.

Lots of laptops out there too, if you think about it, and none of them have CRTs.

Here's some other things to keep in mind... I've gone CRT shopping, and the quality level has dropped tremendously, as all the big names have gotten into producing plasma and LCD displays. Stores are trying to offload CRTs as cheap HD displays, before the market goes all LCD/Plasma/DLP. The prices for consumer CRTs are cheap, and sadly, so is the quality.

There's also the issue of TV watching... if most people are going to have LCDs and Plasmas, the TV signals are going to be designed and balanced for those displays. The same goes for games for next-gen systems.

But... forget the market for a second.

LCDs are easier on the eyes, in my opinion. They don't flicker like a CRT, and in their native resolution, the sharpness beats a CRT easily. I go back from LCDs to CRTs every day, and the more I use LCDs, the more I want to ditch my CRT displays. There's the blurring and the black levels, but a lot of it has been eliminated since the early days of LCDs. I'd rather have the blurring than the flicker.

So I'd get the LCD. If anything, with the demand for LCDs up, it'd be easier to sell it off if you didn't like it down the line.

- Ven
 

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I went ahead and picked up the Sony GDM 900, my friend on the other hand bought a Apple Cinema 24". The CRT I posted I guess is not what you would call a "consumer" CRT, it's what they use for production graphics in studios like blur and industrial lights and magic, they are being phased out because they are no longer being made, but most of the artist I know in the business are feirce about giveing theirs up.

However, you are VERY correct about LCD being easier on the eyes. I find an LCD almost relaxing to look at while a CRT really is rough on the eyes if you are not like.. actively looking arround the screen.. i.e. reading, watching movies ect..

I'll probbaly make another post showing the two side by side so we can have a real comparason.

A side note in reguards to plasma, plasma is crap, with in 4 years it will be half as bright as it is when you first got it and it burns in so so fast. LCD, DLP and Slim CRT seem to be the current contenders.
 
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I have Samsung HDTV LCD for
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64bit
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super gun arcade for 32bit 64bit arcade sytem
game system

SONY TRINITRON TV CRT
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super gun arcade 8bit 16bit 24bit 32bit 2d games
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ravenmgs said:
Are they LCD "tv"s or computer monitors? Because I don't know of any LCD TV that comes on par with the Apple Cinema displays and they still have a bit of blur when compared to a trinatron or neo candy.

I have a friend who is a game dev who told me that there are LCD monitors out there that have a lot of blur correction ect.. but he doesn't know much about them because he refuses to use anything but a crt ect... I was just kind of wondering if any one had done any like.. side by side type comparasons with differnt screens.

There lcd tv's 1 panasonic 1 sharp.
I'm waiting for a good 1920x1080i display, but here in the uk there are realy only a handfull of them around, out of the ones that are availible theres only 2 good ones
a philips and a sharp, but I'm waiting for something special.

I read a review on toms hardware about those apple displays, they realy didn't rate them that well.
 

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There lcd tv's 1 panasonic 1 sharp.
I'm waiting for a good 1920x1080i display, but here in the uk there are realy only a handfull of them around, out of the ones that are availible theres only 2 good ones
a philips and a sharp, but I'm waiting for something special.

I read a review on toms hardware about those apple displays, they realy didn't rate them that well.

The apple displays are for people who make production movies, graphics and what not. So, it's really the best thing you can get considering it's probbaly that or a sony GDM which the movie or game was developed on. It's possible you read a review of the older displays, because there are some older apple cinema displays but I don't know anything about them good or bad. The new ones are much much higher quality and resolution then a 1080i display, their max resolution ranges up to 1600p, and HD is only 720p. My GDM goes up to 1440p, which is more then the 24" apple but not as much as the 30".

I'll post some pictures of my GDM and my friends apple cinema side by side.
 

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ravenmgs said:
The apple displays are for people who make production movies, graphics and what not. So, it's really the best thing you can get considering it's probbaly that or a sony GDM which the movie or game was developed on. It's possible you read a review of the older displays, because there are some older apple cinema displays but I don't know anything about them good or bad. The new ones are much much higher quality and resolution then a 1080i display, their max resolution ranges up to 1600p, and HD is only 720p. My GDM goes up to 1440p, which is more then the 24" apple but not as much as the 30".

I'll post some pictures of my GDM and my friends apple cinema side by side.

The apple moniter that they tested was the 23inch new version here is the link
http://tomshardware.co.uk/2005/08/30/all/
I think you will be suprised about what they say about this monitor, but what I do no is that they use the same screens for all there range, the only difference is the resolution.

the sony is very good tho.
 
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To be honest I would look for something else, the specs dont look that great:oh_no:

Any suggestions? I am trying to find something at or under the $500 mark (which makes it that much more difficult).
 

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I live in the uk so the product range differs from what you have in the US
so I could not realy recommend anything, but I'm sure you could get something better for your $$$
 

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Agreed

Those slim crt tv's are a very good price, in terms of price and picture quality I dont think you will find better
 

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tested out some NeoGeo and Sega Saturn emulators on my new Sony FW GDM 900 and I must say the picture is the best i've seen on any monitor.

My only gripe is that because the monitor is kind of old I am seeing a very slight fadeing in the top cornors, which isn't even noticeable on emulators because they don't play in 16:9
 

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ravenmgs said:
tested out some NeoGeo and Sega Saturn emulators on my new Sony FW GDM 900 and I must say the picture is the best i've seen on any monitor.

My only gripe is that because the monitor is kind of old I am seeing a very slight fadeing in the top cornors, which isn't even noticeable on emulators because they don't play in 16:9
Nice moniter

The fw900 is one of the best crt moniters you can get, good choice there
shame about the fadeing in the corner tho, but as you say it makes no difference when playing emu's

The fd trinitron tube is quality when it comes to playing neo, I play my rgb modded aes on a 29inch sony fd 4:3 which I have only ever used for playing games on
it has never once had a tv channel on it, before I got the sony I had a toshiba 4:3
I put them side by side and the difference was huge.

Do you have aes/mvs or just play neo on emu?
 

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I think I might of gotten the edges streightened out, there are a TON of options in the on screen display.
 

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Yeah, I was able to strech the cornors out useing the onscreen display, this monitor is amazeing looking, it's so smooth it looks like a glass of colored water even from just a foot or so away.
 
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