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Piratero
06-17-2006, 07:20 PM
I just bought a loose cart from ECL a week ago. I received it in the mail and the first thing I noticed was the "void warranty" stick on the side. I opened the cart and found one board to have nothing but Toshiba chips, while the other had EPROM chips. The chips were labeled with a sticker, "253 EP1", "253 EP2", "253 EP3", "253 EP4." It basicly looked exactly like this (http://x402.putfile.com/4/10615263212.jpg) but with the 4 EPROM chips. One of the EPROM chips had a black wire running from one IC leg to another. Could this be a repair of some sort or just a bootleg?


$ unzip -l garou.zip
Archive: garou.zip
Length Date Time Name
-------- ---- ---- ----
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c1.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c2.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c3.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c4.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c5.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c6.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c7.bin
8388608 10-06-01 20:00 253-c8.bin
2097152 10-06-01 20:00 253-ep1.p1
2097152 10-06-01 20:00 253-ep2.p2
2097152 10-06-01 20:00 253-ep3.p3
2097152 10-06-01 20:00 253-ep4.p4
262144 10-06-01 20:00 253-m1.bin
4194304 10-06-01 20:00 253-v1.bin
4194304 10-06-01 20:00 253-v2.bin
4194304 10-06-01 20:00 253-v3.bin
4194304 10-06-01 20:00 253-v4.bin
262144 12-20-01 22:58 253-sma.bin
-------- -------
92798976 18 files

racecar
06-17-2006, 07:24 PM
..jpn version of garou has that wire thing in it:cool:

is your a jpn green/ blue cart??

Piratero
06-17-2006, 07:26 PM
So it's a legit cart? What about the EPROM chips? It looks like the ROM I have has those exact filenames. Oh, I see... So the English version is a little different to the Japenese version. My cart is green, not blue.

racecar
06-17-2006, 08:39 PM
So it's a legit cart? What about the EPROM chips? It looks like the ROM I have has those exact filenames. Oh, I see... So the English version is a little different to the Japenese version. My cart is green, not blue.


it's teal.. and its the real deal:chimp:

Piratero
06-17-2006, 08:59 PM
Great. I was just a bit shocked to see EPROM chips :)

Mutation
06-18-2006, 10:23 AM
Your Garou 's totally legit !

There're 2 revisions of Garou : one with 4 EPs (for P1 to P4) & one with 2 PROMs (P1 & P2).

There's the same thing about KoF'99 & Samurai Shodown III : one rev with 4 EPs & some rev with 2 PROMs.

Piratero
06-18-2006, 03:49 PM
Thanks guys. That warranty sticker is pissing me off! It won't come off!

Amano Jacu
06-18-2006, 04:09 PM
It's legit, I have one like that, and we have discussed about this revision maaaaaany times, for example:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21260

Piratero
06-18-2006, 04:34 PM
Thank You! Ah, I should of have searched jamma.nl first ;)

billd420
06-19-2006, 11:32 AM
Thanks guys. That warranty sticker is pissing me off! It won't come off!

Hah I got my Garou from ECL too, that fuckin warranty BS sticker took so much effort to remove. Its like painted on the cart. I had to scrape it off w/ a piece of plastic (so I wouldn't scratch the cart). My cart is exactly the same as you described, and its totally legit.

-B

N80G80
11-08-2006, 03:45 PM
Wow, I'm glad this thread was here I got my MOTW today and thought as soon as I opened it, that it was a boot. Anyway thought I would post a pic for reference:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n133/N80G80/MOTW.jpg

Neo Alec
11-11-2006, 04:25 AM
You shouldn't jump to the conclusion you have a boot just because there are EPROM's. N80G80, the other chips on the board you posted make it clear it is original, so it wouldn't matter if the EP's were there or not.

N80G80
11-13-2006, 06:27 PM
Alec I didnt think it was a boot cause of the eproms it was the wire (jumper) that made me think it was a boot

Neo Alec
11-13-2006, 08:11 PM
Oh. Don't worry about it. Lots of carts have a wire or two.

SNK-Jorge
03-20-2007, 12:29 AM
hmm my new japanese MOTW looks just like the american MOTW in the first post...is that okay? it doesn't have the wire thingie or any eproms....it is not working correctly either, the 2nd player buttons are all mapped wrong and working incorrectly but the first player side is fine, the game boots up just fine too...oddly enough with all enlish text and the menu in the soft dip is all english as well.....any ideas?

*side note, the cab works fine otherwise, i play fighting games in it all the time, no problems at all. (4 slot ded)*

Vectorman0
03-20-2007, 12:55 AM
hmm my new japanese MOTW looks just like the american MOTW in the first post...is that okay? it doesn't have the wire thingie or any eproms....it is not working correctly either, the 2nd player buttons are all mapped wrong and working incorrectly but the first player side is fine, the game boots up just fine too...oddly enough with all enlish text and the menu in the soft dip is all english as well.....any ideas?

*side note, the cab works fine otherwise, i play fighting games in it all the time, no problems at all. (4 slot ded)*

Games will play in whatever language the BIOS is, regardless of the region of the cart so that explains the english. You say the second player works in other games except MotW. I did a quick search and found the problem, see this thread here (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84596), specifically this (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1002402&postcount=12) post.

I hope that helps.

Xian Xi
03-20-2007, 10:53 AM
I had the same problem and I just had to reset my backup ram and all was well.

Piccolo_DBz
03-21-2007, 12:42 AM
Here's mine, I believe it's a boot but I'll let you be the judge

http://home.stx.rr.com/thebutcherjb/Bootornot.JPG

Piratero
03-21-2007, 12:44 AM
Piccolo_DBz, legit.

xmods (jwm2)
03-21-2007, 10:48 AM
Here's mine, I believe it's a boot but I'll let you be the judge

http://home.stx.rr.com/thebutcherjb/Bootornot.JPG

What makes you think thats a boot? I see none of the tale tell signs.

Piccolo_DBz
03-26-2007, 12:26 AM
eh, I don't know, Just had a feeling. I've been hearing alot about the english labeled Garous being bootlegged.