ntsc to pal converters?

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Probably in the wrong forum but where could I get a reasonable priced NTSC to PAL converter with both S-video input and outputs?
My TV is NTSC compatible but it has bends in the screen when I play NTSC games.
 

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Do you mean that your tv is pin cushioning on the sides? If so, you can correct this in your tv's service mode.

I know all too well the drama's of trying to run NTSC stuff on older PAL tele's. When i got my saturn from japan, i played it in black and white for ages, simply cause my tv didnt support ntsc pallete.

Some of the console specific converters might be a better option. I neded up grabbing one from lan-kwei ages ago (is that company still around?) but the picture quality was very crappy.

You may be better of waiting till you get a newer tele, as they all now should support ntsc properly. The only reason that i say this is becuase when i went looking for a generic converter, places wanted to sell me reall expensive pieces of kit, generally around the $400 mark.

If getting another tele is not an option you may want to look at something that can be useful later on like the XRGB+ upscan converter. NCSX used to sell these, but i dont know if they still do.

You'll probably pay the same for an XRGB+ as you would a good quality converter (well in Australia that is). Plus the XRGB+ in my eyes is alot more useful.
 

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Have you tried to hook up your equipment via S-video? If your TV can play NTSC systems in color via an AV-lead, it will most likely work with S-Video as well. My old PAL TV pin cushioned on the right hand side of the screen when I was running NTSC equipment via RGB. If I ran the same equipment via a standard AV-cable, I got a black and white screen, but the pin cushion problem didn't occur in that configuration. The problem never occured with PAL equipment on that PAL TV. I even had pin cushioning occuring on NTSC games and not on PAL games on the same Playstation on that TV.. Really wierd..

I have tried several NTSC -> PAL converters, both cheap and expensive but none of them could ever deliver the crystal clear quality as the RGB-cable does. Yes, you may be able to find an adapter that converts S-Video signals, but it's still a converted S-Video signal. Converted is converted, you can never get away from that and there will be a more or less noticable quality loss.

My opinion is to bite your tounge and play with the pin cusioned screen. There is a big risk that you will buy an expensive converter, get disappointed with the picture quality and end up using the converter as a door stop and keep on playing with the RGB-cable anyway.

Ah, by the way. I have seen pin cushioning on many many TVs of all kinds of sizes, brands and ages. There is nothing wrong with your TV.
 

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TravistyOJ said:
Found a really good priced one, but doesnt support s-video :(
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=26&products_id=1686&

This is a regular one without S-Video (as mentioned above). Pin cushioned screen or not, RGB is light years better than this and if you feel uncomfortable with pin cushioning, the quality loss this one will deliver is definitely not for you. This type is the last option for TVs without RGB slots or systems without RGB out (NES/3DO) etc. Buy your girlfriend a nice dinner or something instead, it's a way better investment in this case.. :glee:
 

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Get a new TV!!, Ntsc to PAL converters are always pretty dissapointing, the picture will be fuzzy and the colours wishy washy, do you folks have RGB scart connectors over there? if so, are you using it?
 

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No australia doesn't use RGB, we use the same connections that Americans use like Composite,S-video and Component.
My TV only has Composite and S-video, it's around 15 years old and I bought it for 66 aud about a week ago for my gaming needs.

Yes the picture while playing NTSC games does have cushioning on the sides.
Berty, how would I get into the TV's service mode?
There is no information in the booklet let alone a button on the remote or on the front of the TV that I know of.

Surely there must be a way to get a console so output PAL 50hz when playing NTSC 60hz games?
I've heard there is a mod for the saturn to change the output from PAL to NTSC when needed, is there anything like this for the DC or PS2?
 

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Try to get the service codes for your telly and change the width, positioning of the picture.
 

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Is there a service mode for every TV? even 15 year old one's?
 

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Lachlan, your tv will have a service mode. It is a sequence of key strokes that you must input via the remote control. I have got a new panasonic tv, and its service mode allow you to access all of the functions of a regular pc monitor and then some.

If your tv uses a remote, then there's a 99% chance that it will have a software service mode. You'll need to google for it though using your tv's model number as a reference. Its not the sort of thing they put in the manual (mainly to stop ppl screwing their tv's. :) )
 

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Berty said:
Lachlan, your tv will have a service mode. It is a sequence of key strokes that you must input via the remote control. I have got a new panasonic tv, and its service mode allow you to access all of the functions of a regular pc monitor and then some.

If your tv uses a remote, then there's a 99% chance that it will have a software service mode. You'll need to google for it though using your tv's model number as a reference. Its not the sort of thing they put in the manual (mainly to stop ppl screwing their tv's. :) )

It uses a remote control, I have been seraching on google for any information on the model of my tv (TC2970V) and so far I've found nothing, not even the panasonic operating manual search found it.

I haven't tried my s-video cables because they are in the mail.
 

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If all else fails you could always pop the TV open and fiddle with the controls. I had an old 13" B/W TV that I managed to use as a temp arcade monitor by hooking it up to a hacked PSX RF converter (the "video" was RBG lines twisted together) and fiddling with the picture size and hold for about 2 hours to sync it up. It came through crystal clear too, considering it was RF modulated.

Alright, that was getting too off-topic. But really, if there's no service mode then there's usually all of the controls on the inside of the TV. Unless it's an LCD.
 

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I will take off the back cover tomorrow and see what I can find.
 

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lachlan said:
Is there a service mode for every TV? even 15 year old one's?
I wouldn't bet on a 15 year old TV having a remote-enabled service mode. You'll probably have to open it up to make any major adjustments.
 
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