typically, how long does a cartrige last?

roninbuddha

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i mean, what's the usual lifespan of an MVS cart and an AES cart? considering you're not really "maintaining" then,
but with the usual dusting, and of course, you keep them shelved in their respecitve boxes and stuff...

for example, i have a Samurai Shodown MVS cart, and i got it way back in 2000, and the seller said he got it way back in 1996, and who know wherelse it came from..
it still works. but i know these stuff don't last forever..

did you guys ever have a cart that just stops working...

just wonderin..
 

ttooddddyy

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A good question and impossible to give a definitive answer, but here goes anyway. This is only toddys opinion.

Neo-Geo carts are very reliable from my experience. You are more likely to experience problems with the mobo hardware.

If the carts are treated well, i.e. keep them free of dust and any other foreign objects/substances and do not expose to extremes of temp (keep the system ventilated, but dont get anal about it, in reality they should work just as well at the Poles as in the Sahara) or UV light, do not let them sit in direct sunlight.

If there are eproms in the cart they can be partially erased with exposure, having said this the case will shield them unless it is transparent as with some MVS carts, they will probably outlive you.
On the UV issue, if there are eproms on the cart boards, it is not advisable to photograph them with camera flash on, unless the windows are covered up with tape. It is unlikely that there will be partial erasure, but why risk it.

Also excessive supply voltage may cause problems (perhaps as a result of a faulty psu especially with mvs), as with the mother board.
Static electricity is a potential problem, be aware of those issues.

There is also a phenomenon (some might argue real or theoretical) known as "bit rot" which is "facetiously described" here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rot :spock:

So in theory, in perhaps tens, hundreds or thousands of years time the roms/eproms data may become corrupt as a result?
As is the nature with all electronics, there may be some unexpected component failure (say a rom chip) which is beyond the designers, manufacturers or users control. The chances are remote; it’s usually down to bad luck :( but it does happen.

As far as storage is concerned, ideally a cool dark dry place.
Bottom line, the cart will probably out-live the user. I would guess by hundreds of years. But please don’t quote me ;)


Edit: As a foot note, my only cart problems have been climatic related.
Living on the coast in the tropics I have come across a couple of carts (out of about 40 total over a 4 year period) which had open traces near the cart edge connectors as a result of corrosion of tracks, imho caused by a combination of high humidity and salty air.
Never buy any carts from toddy.
 
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kernow

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roninbuddha said:
for example, i have a Samurai Shodown MVS cart, and i got it way back in 2000, and the seller said he got it way back in 1996, and who know wherelse it came from..
it still works. but i know these stuff don't last forever..

you got it way back in 2000 and it was made in 1991 or something.

you have nothing to worry about your ss1 will be fine :tickled:
 

roninbuddha

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wow, very informative post Toddy, tahnks man..

i live in a tropical country, so i was expecting that certain weathering could be caused by the climate itself.

i've had a share of carts "dying", but those are namely MegaDrive and Famicom carts... which was strangely due to molds (humidity + dust ?),

well, i admit im not much OC when it comes to my games.. but my Neo stuff (and DC stuff) gets a fair treatment of dusting and cleaning. :D

but isn't it too much by saying that the carts will outlive the user? that sounds kinda funny. :D

thanks man
 

El Capitan

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I'm sure there was a post about a year ago or more where people were suggesting bit-rot in 15-25 years.
 
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