I'm playing t3h r0mz
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Wolferaizer
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Welcome to 4 years ago.
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What kind of (E)EPROM dumper do you use? I've been looking for one for a while.
Demon Dash
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Nahh, you just download them. As long as you own the origional cart, it's legal to use the roms. Unless you own hacked versions, the neither are legitimatly legal.
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You're allowed to own a single personal backup, not a single backup of someone else's cart.Demon Dash said:
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Does anyone really care how you got them or if they're illegal?
I'm just happy somebody younger than me is playing neo willfully.
I'm just happy somebody younger than me is playing neo willfully.
Wolferaizer
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SpamYouToDeath said:
U must be from india & eat alot of curry.
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Wolferaizer said:
I fail to see the reasoning behind this personal attack. Are you implying that Indian copyright law is overly restrictive? That curry makes you mentally inferior?
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Demon Dash said:
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a HUGE misconception, according to copywrite law(at least as I know it (music)): for each copy of media you buy, you may only one one copy. (for example if you bought the last NIN album you can legaly only own that one copy, if you burn it for your car, friend, or rip it on you computer, or mp3 player, that would be illegal since you paid only for one copy) I would assume that the same applies to both video games and movies. I'm pretty sure that those old disclaimers on old rom sites said that to protect their own asses, since then I'm pretty sure they changed the copywrite laws to include videogame roms as well, that would explain why so many rom sites have been (and are currently being) shut down.
------Soulthug, stop being a cheap-ass, and buy either an AES or MVS setup. If you supposedly are buying the games, you might as well buy the system. Only a retard would buy games he can't play. And especially if you get a MVS setup, it's pretty damn affordable all around, for both games and the system (super-gun or cab).
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Ehh, I don't encourage piracy. But, I can't go on about the evils of it either. It has gotten me into a lot of cool systems for real. Well, 2 cool systems... 
I got a PC Engine emulator and I was hooked on those games. About a month later, I bought a PC Engine Duo and now I collect those games.
Same with Neo Geo. Emulation re-introduced Neo Geo to me. I started playing a few games on the emulator... Then, about a month and a half later, there was a Neo candy cab sitting in my room! But, by the time that I was playing the NG emulator (like 3 months ago) it was way too late to have contributed to solving SNK's financial troubles.
I don't give a fuck about the law, let me just put that out there. I believe that if you get an emulator and a slew of games for it and you think of it as a collection, you're a tard. But, if you get an emulator to try out some games that you never had the chance to try legitimately, to me that's ok. It can introduce you to some cool stuff that you may never have been able to play otherwise. I'm anal about collecting though and a burn/rom will never do and I realize that a lot of people aren't like that.
Also, people who support emulation for systems on which games are still being sold new are boners, in my opinion .
I got a PC Engine emulator and I was hooked on those games. About a month later, I bought a PC Engine Duo and now I collect those games. Same with Neo Geo. Emulation re-introduced Neo Geo to me. I started playing a few games on the emulator... Then, about a month and a half later, there was a Neo candy cab sitting in my room! But, by the time that I was playing the NG emulator (like 3 months ago) it was way too late to have contributed to solving SNK's financial troubles.
I don't give a fuck about the law, let me just put that out there. I believe that if you get an emulator and a slew of games for it and you think of it as a collection, you're a tard. But, if you get an emulator to try out some games that you never had the chance to try legitimately, to me that's ok. It can introduce you to some cool stuff that you may never have been able to play otherwise. I'm anal about collecting though and a burn/rom will never do and I realize that a lot of people aren't like that.
Also, people who support emulation for systems on which games are still being sold new are boners, in my opinion
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Demon Dash said:
People are playing roms now and it's great or whatever, but I don't see why some need to keep rationalizing it to themselves with these stupid "It's legal if" fairy tales. It's not legal. Under any circumstances; whether you own the AES cart, or if you own 10 copies of the AES cart. You've made a decision to steal. The world is not going to stop spinning. If you're fine with it, be fine with it; don't waste time or insult yourself by spouting these ridiculous excuses. Who cares?SpamYouToDeath said:
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Before NeoRage was released I had never even played a neo-geo game. Although I was familiar with the system, it was way too expensive and there wern't any arcades that carried it around here. I now own an AES. Any true video game player/collector will tell you that roms aren't the same thing. It's all about owning the cartridge, reading the manual and using a genuine controller. The same applies with modchips and copies.
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Also, I remember when funcoland rolled into town. I thought it was pretty amazing that I could trade in all my old nes and snes games for new stuff. (Didn't evenyone at a young age?) Well ofcoarse I traded in all my nes, snes, and genesis games for credit. Years later when I got into emulation, I remember one of the first games I re-played was link to the past for snes. And while I could download and play any game I wanted for free. Something was missing, it wasn't the same. So instead of actually playing the games at my computer. I went out and bought a new system and games. Thats when I learned my leason, that roms will NEVER be the same.
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I know the "legal" thing is to back-up your own copy and not download it, but who cares, the police will not come to your home to check and morally you are 100% OK owning the original, and this is what really counts. Actually, how would the police tell that you downloaded it instead of backing-up your own? There's no difference whatsoever if you have the real ROMZ.
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kernow said:but , they could checksum the carts, not all are the same
I've seen the CSI guys obtain a DNA analysis in minutes, but not a checksum
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romz are cool
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Listen to this man:
Very good description, you're on the money. This misconception seems to have originated with some random person who BSed his ability to own an unlicensed copy of a game and it became canon. After I studied copyrights in law school it only confirmed the way this works. In a way, you can compare owning a private copy of a game to one of those multi-user institutional copies of MS Office, etc. Those are one disk with paid licenses for each additional user. Your game is one purchase for one user. It's not a perfect comparison, (I don't have the time to write "perfect") but it gets the general concept across.
Still, as Amanu Jacu noted --no one is going to enforce this sort of nit-picky thing that soulthug is doing. However, if you get busted for something else (like music sharing), I can guarentee this will be tacked onto the list. It's sort of like being arrested for a drug violation and the cops then find a bootleg video cassette --of course they're going to cite both
Tung Fu ru said:
Very good description, you're on the money. This misconception seems to have originated with some random person who BSed his ability to own an unlicensed copy of a game and it became canon. After I studied copyrights in law school it only confirmed the way this works. In a way, you can compare owning a private copy of a game to one of those multi-user institutional copies of MS Office, etc. Those are one disk with paid licenses for each additional user. Your game is one purchase for one user. It's not a perfect comparison, (I don't have the time to write "perfect") but it gets the general concept across.
Still, as Amanu Jacu noted --no one is going to enforce this sort of nit-picky thing that soulthug is doing. However, if you get busted for something else (like music sharing), I can guarentee this will be tacked onto the list. It's sort of like being arrested for a drug violation and the cops then find a bootleg video cassette --of course they're going to cite both
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Amano Jacu said:
That's not legal either. When you buy a game, you bought ONE copy. And it is illegal to make back-up copies of that game. Not preaching, just letting people know.
btw: I was hoping Bobak would check out this post and confirm what I thought to be correct (music and gaming copywrite laws being similar or the same). It helps to get a little "credable" legal info, from someone who is actually probably pretty well read on the subjuct, unlike the many people who heard from someone or read on a website that this is the way it is.