360heelflip
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Is it at all possible to get an Component cable (red,Blue,Green) for my NEO GEO AES? Cheers!
NEO GEO Component cable?
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J0e Musashi
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Does your Neo support component out?
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How do I find that out? Hasn't had any mods done to it or anything...
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There's no Component Video Cable that goes to the Neo's standard A/V out.. you'll need to your system modded -- preferably w/ Jeff Kurtz's Neo-Bitz Encoder.
Your other option for better picture would be an X-Neo Adapter which can plug in the back of an unmodded AES and will provide S-Video.
From what I've seen on my AES (high-serial): using S-Video causes some ugly striping and anything lower (composite & f-type) has issues with rainbowing. I also have a SuperGun w/ the Neo-Bitz board and my MVS looks just godly with component cables, so I'd recommend going for the mod.
Hope that helps,
Kickin' Wing
Your other option for better picture would be an X-Neo Adapter which can plug in the back of an unmodded AES and will provide S-Video.
From what I've seen on my AES (high-serial): using S-Video causes some ugly striping and anything lower (composite & f-type) has issues with rainbowing. I also have a SuperGun w/ the Neo-Bitz board and my MVS looks just godly with component cables, so I'd recommend going for the mod.
Hope that helps,
Kickin' Wing
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360heelflip
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Cool, thanks for all the info and I'll look into it.
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Dude look on Ebay...
You want a Neo Geo RGB SCART cable.
don't use the word component.... that USUSALLY refers to YUV (color diff.) component, not RGB component......
You don't want YUV (color diff.)compnent because it's expensive and your tv probably does not support it.
YUV(color diff.) component is a North american thing where signals are sent accross red, green and blue wires.... But it's not RGB.
You want a Neo Geo RGB SCART cable.
don't use the word component.... that USUSALLY refers to YUV (color diff.) component, not RGB component......
You don't want YUV (color diff.)compnent because it's expensive and your tv probably does not support it.
YUV(color diff.) component is a North american thing where signals are sent accross red, green and blue wires.... But it's not RGB.
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Also, You will want to internaly mod your AES with the RGB mod... It costs about $2 to do it yourself and takes about 10 minutes.
After the RGB mod is made, it does not matter what serial neo Geo you have.
After the RGB mod is made, it does not matter what serial neo Geo you have.
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Ya know, someone needs to work on an AES/MVS technical FAQ.
Something that would try to cover all technical aspects of the Neo including mods, video output formats, bios, controllers and such.
That way we can just point people to it.
hmmm....
Something that would try to cover all technical aspects of the Neo including mods, video output formats, bios, controllers and such.
That way we can just point people to it.
hmmm....
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norton9478 said:
I'm quite positive they don't have scart TVs in Australia.
norton9478 said:
You (we) cannot know if he meant RGB or component. He said "component" and "red, green, blue" which may well refer to the colour of the cables. In view of this it is more probable that he actually meant component (YUV).
norton9478 said:
Aren't you making too many assumptions about what he wants and what he can afford?
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No.
360heelflip
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Hello
My Panosonic Q is hooked to my TV by Component cable:1 Red, 1 Blue,
1 Green. My XBOX is also hooked up the same way. The 3 inputs on my TV are obviously of the same colour.. I want to get the best picture I can get out of my NEO GEO. Not many TVs here have SCART and I know they way my other consoles are hooked up are better than S-VIDEO.
My Panosonic Q is hooked to my TV by Component cable:1 Red, 1 Blue,
1 Green. My XBOX is also hooked up the same way. The 3 inputs on my TV are obviously of the same colour.. I want to get the best picture I can get out of my NEO GEO. Not many TVs here have SCART and I know they way my other consoles are hooked up are better than S-VIDEO.
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Well in that case NeoBitz encoder mod. Thats your only option. I highly suggest it. I pretty much have RGB perfect video from my lower serial # AES system. As for any model Neo Geo AES it doesn't matter since you will tap into the original RGB lines before it reaches the CXA video chip that the system uses originally. You can either send your system off to Jeff Kurtz or order the board and do it yourself. It is really easy to wire up if you have any soldering skills. The only weird problem I had was to add a 0.1uf ceramic capacitor to get my video sync input to work right in component. This was because I have an older model AES I guess. I don't think you will have this problem though if you have a system that has a high serial #. His website is www.neobitz.com or you could contact him here as JMkurtz.
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SNKNostalgia said:
No. A much easier option for him would be to get an RGB-to-component converter with a scart input like this:
http://www.converters.tv/products/converters/other_products/46.html
Basically he gets a standard Neo Geo RGB scart cable and that converter and he's set. No internal mods to be done, no shipping of his AES from Australia to the US and back. If his system already outputs a good RGB signal he may not even need the RGB mod (which is dead easy to do anyway).
Of course one would have to compare the results you get with a neobitz encoder and other commercial component encoders but the point is that the aussie guy could get what he wants by just buying the two above things...
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MKL said:
That is a fucking awesome converter....
I used it with an Unmodded US AES and the picture was AS good as neobitz with a Pure RGB.
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Positive feedback from another aussie:
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1516326&postcount=5
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1516326&postcount=5
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I'll be damned, most RGB to YUV convertors suck but if this one works as good as a NeoBitz, then great. I been wanting to use the NeoBitz on all my other systems like PS1, Saturn, SNES, Genesis, Turbo Duo (gotta tap the RGB) and others. So this will work with NTSC RGB output and then a NTSC TV? I guess all I have to do is buy a SCART wire for my systems and then this encoder?
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SNKNostalgia said:
1. There is no such thing as NTSC (or PAL) RGB..... I'm not so sure about YUV.
2. I'd Email the supplier about getting a North American Compatable unit... I know that you will need a different PSU than the one shown...
3. You might have to/want to internaly Mod other systems to get the best RGB output.
4. I can only coment on the use of this unit with a neo geo AES and about 5 arcade boards.... But it was tight.
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norton9478 said:
Yeah I think I will E-mail them or get in contact with the manufacturer if possible. I would assume the YUV ouput is in PAL so this could get tricky. Of course I think all you would have to do is maybe replace a crystal (if it has one) inside the unit if all it does is PAL. This would be something to look into as an option for good video output for US TV owners. As for the PSU, I just gotta find one that works with the right voltage and amps.
One thing that sucks though is that I would have to stock up on Scart cables for all my systems, eishh. Some I will have to make Scart connection mods mounted on the systems like the Turbo Duo or 3DO. Of course, the RGB outputs have to be tinkered with. Especially with the Duo since it has a weak signal from RGB without an amp. Still I hear the Duo is a pain in the ass to get alternate video ouputs other than D-lites S-video mod or the RGB only output from gamesx.
Or you could put a Neobitz in an external box and build your own cable(s). I've done this for a couple people and I know of a couple people that have did the same -- with great results on multiple systems.
The nice thing about the Neobitz is that it also includes SVideo and Composite, although you are most likely getting it for Component.
I checked into getting one of these units. To have it shipped to the US brought the total over $150....just for component.
Jeff
The nice thing about the Neobitz is that it also includes SVideo and Composite, although you are most likely getting it for Component.
I checked into getting one of these units. To have it shipped to the US brought the total over $150....just for component.
Jeff
Probably wayoff,but if his aes already outputs good rgb,then couldn't he just buy a scart rgb? cable and a scart to yuv adapter to plug in to his tv for 10$?
Bye the way highway net are top to deal with!.gottena few thing's fromthem in past,not far from us actually...wouldn't mind trying one of those converter's myself sounds good
Bye the way highway net are top to deal with!.gottena few thing's fromthem in past,not far from us actually...wouldn't mind trying one of those converter's myself sounds good
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I'm going to order one soon, so I'll let you know how it goes. I just need to get a SCART cable for my AES as well.
Cheers!
Cheers!
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Squid said:
Yeah the output is still going to be RGB and not YUV. The adapter just makes it so you can convert scart YUV into the component YUV style plugs. It comes through the same lines as if it were RGB minus the sync line of course. A good example of this: the PS2 system shares the same lines for RGB and YUV, so you have to set the video mode in the system config screen depending on what way it is hooked to your TV.
I still can't understand why the US never just used RGB instead. It would have took no decoding process and would have cost less. I think it was used because of the Colorstream thing that DVD players have been using. Maybe it was some other feature to help DVD players sell even though this video format has actually been out for a pretty long time before it was used really. Still its better than just our used to be composite and S-video only options.
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I think I might just get Jeff to put his mod into my AES... That way I can have the other mods done then as well.Lucky I have a 2nd AES here that I can use while the other is away. Would suck not being able to play my games for a while.