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Allright, so I have played only a couple of Online games so far, but I have been severely disappointed that every one of them turns into an Exploitation Fest in a matter of months.
Cases in point, I will summarize all the games I have played or am playing :
STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT
-After half a year from it's release, players found a glitch in the game called a "Wall Hack". It allowed any Jet Trooper to jump up and over buildings, and fall between the Walls. From this position the Cheater could Shoot, and Throw Grenades THROUGH the Wall, but never be harmed from any enemy, because 1. You are between Walls, so enemy fire bounces off in front of you, and 2. The enemies are Rebels, with no Flying ability.
-This came instantly. Base Raping, that is. Just find a Vehicle, go over to the enemy base as a Pilot, and just shoot all spawning people dead. Your Vehicle heals very fast if you are a Pilot, thus if every 15 seconds a spawning player can get off a Missile on you, you still will not die.
WARHAMMER DAWN OF WAR
-I stopped playing competitively 2 weeks after getting the game, opting to play with Online people Against CPU Players only, which is called a "Compstomp". The Cheat that drove me away, was called the "Bait & Drop". EACH AND EVERY GAME, and I am saying it completely literally when I say EVERY game I played against a Human opponent, Coincidentally a low ranking player on My Team drops after a minute. Well, this gives a very easy handicap for the opposing team. This is done by making an Account, joining the game on the other Team, and then Dropping out of the game after it starts.
-The Chaos Army has an extremely machine known as the Defiler. It's cheaper than almost any other Machine for any race, has a lot of health, shoots much farther than normal machines, has very powerful close combat abilities, and only take up 2 points of space from your 20 alloted, allowing you to have 10 Defilers running loose, and you can't win, because you're using twice as much energy to supress their spamming. 80% of people online used the Chaos Army the last time I checked.
BATTLEFIELD 2
There are so many and vast amounts of Exploitations it's not even funny anymore, and I can't even catalog them. I won't bother explaining to people who haven't played BF2, so I'll just have a short summary of the Exploits.
-Blackhawk Trolling. A fully loaded Blackhawk equipped with Engineers and Medics cannot be dealt with at all. a Blackhawk will Capture a Flag in a matter of......wait for it.....3 Seconds. Even if you've got a Rocket Launcher ready, there's no tracking, and by the time you can pop one off, they've already taken your flag and left to get another.
-Commander Artillery Whoring. New exploit. If you are the Commander of your team, you will not receive the 2 points for any Kill you do. Of course, as the CMDR you have the Artillery option, which can kill anywhere from 1-10 People in a single bombing. What this cheater does is call for an Artillery attack, Resign as Commander, and he starts getting Normal kills for his Artillery. After the Artillery is over, he gets back in the CMDR position waiting to start again.
-Base Raping. Basically players find themselves an APC or a Tank, ride up to a Flag, find it's main Spawning Area, back up so they won't start capturing the flag, and mow down any person who spawns there.
-Knife & Revive Cheat. One person from one team spawns as a Medic. The other person is on the Enemy team, and spawns as anything. The Medic finds himself either a Previously Setup Dummy on his team, or finds an unsuspecting victim. He calls over the Enemy player, the Enemy player kills the Victim, and the Medic Revives his "ally", whereupon the Enemy kills the victim again, and the Medic Revives, and continue until both players have 200+ points. You get 2 points for a Revive, and the other gets 2 points for a Kill.
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I came upon the revelation when last night I was thinking how cool it would be, if Konami made a Huge Online POY POY game. I was thinking like 16 Players, 4v4v4v4, where each can pick from the huge variety of gloves. I thought it would be so cool, with people having every kind of Weapon and having a blast.
Then it came to me. In a matter of months, the game would just be filled with people using the same 2 Gloves, the 2 gloves that after playing they realized that it's the most powerful weapon. Nobody would use any other weapon, because they would all be weaker by just a bit or so.
People who know all about Poy Poy/Poitters Point will understand the following: I was imagining players on every side using Gloves like Hop,Chase,Lasso,Hammer, Escape, Magic, and stuff like that. When I realized that after a few months, everyone would be Bomb or Knife.
Same thing with Battlefield 2 with the Assault class, everyone is running around freaking Grenade Launchering each other in the face.
So I am thinking, is there any Competitive Online game out there that hasn't been or isn't being exploited to death?
I've been reading about the Street Fighter 3: Third Strike as well, with players Dropping when they lose, so it won't be on their Win/Loss records.
Come on people, how sad is it when the only thing the gamers are trying to find is how they can have the upper hand not with skill, but with Exploiting the flaws in the game?
Cases in point, I will summarize all the games I have played or am playing :
STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT
-After half a year from it's release, players found a glitch in the game called a "Wall Hack". It allowed any Jet Trooper to jump up and over buildings, and fall between the Walls. From this position the Cheater could Shoot, and Throw Grenades THROUGH the Wall, but never be harmed from any enemy, because 1. You are between Walls, so enemy fire bounces off in front of you, and 2. The enemies are Rebels, with no Flying ability.
-This came instantly. Base Raping, that is. Just find a Vehicle, go over to the enemy base as a Pilot, and just shoot all spawning people dead. Your Vehicle heals very fast if you are a Pilot, thus if every 15 seconds a spawning player can get off a Missile on you, you still will not die.
WARHAMMER DAWN OF WAR
-I stopped playing competitively 2 weeks after getting the game, opting to play with Online people Against CPU Players only, which is called a "Compstomp". The Cheat that drove me away, was called the "Bait & Drop". EACH AND EVERY GAME, and I am saying it completely literally when I say EVERY game I played against a Human opponent, Coincidentally a low ranking player on My Team drops after a minute. Well, this gives a very easy handicap for the opposing team. This is done by making an Account, joining the game on the other Team, and then Dropping out of the game after it starts.
-The Chaos Army has an extremely machine known as the Defiler. It's cheaper than almost any other Machine for any race, has a lot of health, shoots much farther than normal machines, has very powerful close combat abilities, and only take up 2 points of space from your 20 alloted, allowing you to have 10 Defilers running loose, and you can't win, because you're using twice as much energy to supress their spamming. 80% of people online used the Chaos Army the last time I checked.
BATTLEFIELD 2
There are so many and vast amounts of Exploitations it's not even funny anymore, and I can't even catalog them. I won't bother explaining to people who haven't played BF2, so I'll just have a short summary of the Exploits.
-Blackhawk Trolling. A fully loaded Blackhawk equipped with Engineers and Medics cannot be dealt with at all. a Blackhawk will Capture a Flag in a matter of......wait for it.....3 Seconds. Even if you've got a Rocket Launcher ready, there's no tracking, and by the time you can pop one off, they've already taken your flag and left to get another.
-Commander Artillery Whoring. New exploit. If you are the Commander of your team, you will not receive the 2 points for any Kill you do. Of course, as the CMDR you have the Artillery option, which can kill anywhere from 1-10 People in a single bombing. What this cheater does is call for an Artillery attack, Resign as Commander, and he starts getting Normal kills for his Artillery. After the Artillery is over, he gets back in the CMDR position waiting to start again.
-Base Raping. Basically players find themselves an APC or a Tank, ride up to a Flag, find it's main Spawning Area, back up so they won't start capturing the flag, and mow down any person who spawns there.
-Knife & Revive Cheat. One person from one team spawns as a Medic. The other person is on the Enemy team, and spawns as anything. The Medic finds himself either a Previously Setup Dummy on his team, or finds an unsuspecting victim. He calls over the Enemy player, the Enemy player kills the Victim, and the Medic Revives his "ally", whereupon the Enemy kills the victim again, and the Medic Revives, and continue until both players have 200+ points. You get 2 points for a Revive, and the other gets 2 points for a Kill.
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I came upon the revelation when last night I was thinking how cool it would be, if Konami made a Huge Online POY POY game. I was thinking like 16 Players, 4v4v4v4, where each can pick from the huge variety of gloves. I thought it would be so cool, with people having every kind of Weapon and having a blast.
Then it came to me. In a matter of months, the game would just be filled with people using the same 2 Gloves, the 2 gloves that after playing they realized that it's the most powerful weapon. Nobody would use any other weapon, because they would all be weaker by just a bit or so.
People who know all about Poy Poy/Poitters Point will understand the following: I was imagining players on every side using Gloves like Hop,Chase,Lasso,Hammer, Escape, Magic, and stuff like that. When I realized that after a few months, everyone would be Bomb or Knife.
Same thing with Battlefield 2 with the Assault class, everyone is running around freaking Grenade Launchering each other in the face.
So I am thinking, is there any Competitive Online game out there that hasn't been or isn't being exploited to death?
I've been reading about the Street Fighter 3: Third Strike as well, with players Dropping when they lose, so it won't be on their Win/Loss records.
Come on people, how sad is it when the only thing the gamers are trying to find is how they can have the upper hand not with skill, but with Exploiting the flaws in the game?
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