The best season of any science fiction show EVER

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I just got through watching the final episode of the first new season of Dr. Who in 16 years, I just want to note that it was easily the best season of any scifi show ever. Clever, witty, romantic, tragic, controversial....best season the show has ever had.

You scifi/fantasy fans who think "stargate" is something special have a british show to go download (only the new show mind you, I doubt the classic 26 season show it going to impress you quite as much)
 
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jethrek said:
You scifi/fantasy fans who think "stargate" is something special ...

stargate was crap! I actually resented richard dean anderson for this show, and scot bakula for enterprise.. was it him? or face from the a-team? or is that the guy from quantum leap? ah - you get my drift, how could macgyver fall off so badly :(
 

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I would say Farscape but I got into it after it got the axe
 
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No one in this thread has even mentioned a SINGLE SEASON of a scifi shgow in the same league as 2005 Dr. Who

(hint: there's only four seasons to compare: Season 3 B5, Season 3 ST:TNG, season 2 Quantum Leap and Season 1 Farscape are in the same league, but not one of them is as good even if in the same "league")
 

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Actually, much of this season of Doctor Who was disappointing.

Then again, I grew up watching Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker.

Don't get me wrong; Christopher Eccleston has been fantastic, but the new series has a little too much cheese and not enough serious content for my taste. The Slitheen were particularly bad. Episode 9 and 10 were really good, IMO, and reminded me of the good years; I hope next season follows that style a bit more.

It was definitely worth watching, but far from the best season of Doctor Who, let alone all of SF.
 

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i would have to say the first season of farscape it just sucks you in from start to finish.
 
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Bishamon said:
Actually, much of this season of Doctor Who was disappointing.

Then again, I grew up watching Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker.

Don't get me wrong; Christopher Eccleston has been fantastic, but the new series has a little too much cheese and not enough serious content for my taste. The Slitheen were particularly bad. Episode 9 and 10 were really good, IMO, and reminded me of the good years; I hope next season follows that style a bit more.

It was definitely worth watching, but far from the best season of Doctor Who, let alone all of SF.

I grew up on Pertwee's 4th season, and kept watching Doctor Who straight through until it's last season, then watched TNG, DS9, B5, Buffy, Angel, Earth: Final Conflict, Andromeda,. and a host of other shows before this season came along.

What single seasson can you honestly claim is better? Please, my curiousity forces me to ask. :)
 

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Any TNG series is the best isn't it?

I like Stargate SG-1, though none of it's near TNG.
 

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jethrek said:
I then watched TNG, DS9, B5, Buffy, Angel, Earth: Final Conflict, Andromeda,. and a host of other shows before this season came along.

you, actually.. watched all that? .. seriously? buffy? angel?

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kernow said:
you, actually.. watched all that? .. seriously? buffy? angel?

:(

Yeah, my older sister yanked that one onto the tele every time it was on.

Baseley: I can honestly say TNG neverhad a season that "had it all". TNG had some great scifi stories, sure, but it was pretty bare for comedy and any romance element in it was painfully...I mean painfully dry.
 

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jethrek said:
I grew up on Pertwee's 4th season, and kept watching Doctor Who straight through until it's last season, then watched TNG, DS9, B5, Buffy, Angel, Earth: Final Conflict, Andromeda,. and a host of other shows before this season came along.

What single seasson can you honestly claim is better? Please, my curiousity forces me to ask. :)

You obviously weren't old enough to watch Jon Pertwee when they were first run (not meant as an insult - I just noticed you were born in '81), so you may have gotten a different (i.e. more cheesy) impression than I did, but let me tell you: Back then, the episodes didn't seem cheesy, and the effects were pretty decent for the time (especially for a TV series). The current series goes from acceptable effects to downright aweful, and there is just too much intentional cheesiness for my taste. Dr. Who peaked with Pertwee and Baker, and slowly went downhill from there. I had high hopes for the new series, but they seem to be making a Doctor Who parody half the time. I still enjoyed this season, but was disappointed overall. High points included finding the cymberman head in the museum, and almost all of episodes 9 and 10.

As far as what I enjoyed more, just about any season of Angel is better, not to mention Firefly (probably the best SF series in the last decade). I wouldn't even put this season of the Doctor in my top 10, and I have watched most SF series aired in North America in the last 27+ years. Many of the great ones seem to get cancelled early (series such as Space: Above and Beyond, Dark Skies, Farscape, and Firefly are recent examples), while others with seemingly little to no merit seem to run forever (Andromeda).

The first season of the 'new' Battlestar Galactica series was really really good.
 
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You obviously weren't old enough to watch Jon Pertwee when they were first run (not meant as an insult - I just noticed you were born in '81), so you may have gotten a different (i.e. more cheesy) impression than I did, but let me tell you: Back then, the episodes didn't seem cheesy, and the effects were pretty decent for the time (especially for a TV series). The current series goes from acceptable effects to downright aweful, and there is just too much intentional cheesiness for my taste. Dr. Who peaked with Pertwee and Baker, and slowly went downhill from there. I had high hopes for the new series, but they seem to be making a Doctor Who parody half the time. I still enjoyed this season, but was disappointed overall. High points included finding the cymberman head in the museum, and almost all of episodes 9 and 10.

As far as what I enjoyed more, just about any season of Angel is better, not to mention Firefly (probably the best SF series in the last decade). I wouldn't even put this season of the Doctor in my top 10, and I have watched most SF series aired in North America in the last 27+ years. Many of the great ones seem to get cancelled early (series such as Space: Above and Beyond, Dark Skies, Farscape, and Firefly are recent examples), while others with seemingly little to no merit seem to run forever (Andromeda).

The first season of the 'new' Battlestar Galactica series was really really good.

When I first saw Pertwee's fourth season I was only four years old, my local PBS airing Dr. Who in "movie" format on Saturday nights. Did I think it was "cheesy"? Hellno! After all, it had only Star Trek classic and Battlestar Galactica to fight off as far as TV series go, and frankly watch Pertwee battle pepperpots was far LESS cheesy than Cylons. Also the only scifi movies I got to see with better effects were the Star Wars movie, a lot of the other ones I saw being more "vintage", ie cheesier special effects.

I can understand your tendency to disagree. Many Pertwee-Baker/Hinchliffe era fans will never let go of that era, and they were good times for the show. Certainly, though, I think most fans can agree it's the best since Hinchcliffe and Holmes left during the Tom Baker-era. (that 'Key to Time' season being pretty miserable)

Oh, and it's definitely better than any season of Angel.

P.S. Michael Grade, the man who once axed the show, is now a fan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2005/06/21/20120.shtml
 
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jethrek said:
No one in this thread has even mentioned a SINGLE SEASON of a scifi shgow in the same league as 2005 Dr. Who

(hint: there's only four seasons to compare: Season 3 B5, Season 3 ST:TNG, season 2 Quantum Leap and Season 1 Farscape are in the same league, but not one of them is as good even if in the same "league")

B5 has NEVER had a great season, let alone one of the best 5 of all time. Also you are missing FIREFLY, easily the best scifi show since Next Gen.
 
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B5 has NEVER had a great season, let alone one of the best 5 of all time. Also you are missing FIREFLY, easily the best scifi show since Next Gen.
You misspelled "not even close to the best"
 

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for me its the last three seasons of ds9.

sisko is the best captain ever. they had romance with dax/worf, odo/kira, etc. the war was awesome, a great villian with a good side in dukat, odos betrayal etc etc. definitely 5,6 or 7 of ds9!
 

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Sorry but I'd have to vote for the UK version of MAX HEADROOM. It might not have had great romance (though it was evident Edison Carter wanted to ball Theora Jones), but it was #1> Ahead of it's time... #2> Dark as fuck... #3> chessy at times for comic relief... #4> Had a disembodied head in a VR world stuttering... #5> prophetic in it's execution of how the Networks and the media moguls at large became larger than nations in their power to sway the masses one way or another; and where the only thing that matters is "RATINGS" to the point that utter crap is shoved down our throats. *And if the Networks could get away with BLIPVERTS in real life, you bet your ass they'd do it too. It only lasted one season, then got mishmashed with an American remake in '87, but it was truly a show I wish would get the proper DVD release in R1.

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B5 really hooked me in, actually. Maybe because it had a lot of intelligent Politics, thrown in. Heck, I hated anything and everything about political subjects until I saw B5. A great show to illustrate how politics get people killed, and who dies for those decisions. Probably one of my favorite Sci-fi series, ever. I only have one major problem with it. I missed out on the entire last season because they moved the show off of regular television.

I'm interested in this new Dr. Who. I'm going to have to start watching it. I've seen pretty much every season of Dr. Who, and I enjoyed just about every Doctor. Of course, I fall in the idea of liking Tom Baker, but other doctors did grow on me. Not every Doctor was very kind at all, so I kind of liked the differences. For instance, I liked the half-cowardly antics of the 2nd Doctor, because he just seemed kind of humorously-fragile when he's scared. Pertwee's Doctor was one that changed his own personality, a little, from start to finish. At first, he was quite a bit selfish and was ready to "run off and do his thing" any chance he had. Then he later developed to a more "caring" doctor.

The last Doctor (of the old season, (Sylvester ????)) also grew on me because he had that quirky aspect. His main personality talent was his special instinct to sniff-out evil like a "detect evil" RPG spell. In some really wierd way, he made one of the most 'responsible' doctors. Very heroic, but very very quirky. The problem was that many episodes, he was in, did not receive very good writing. His episodes consist of some of the most corny stories made. However, he has a few gems, even in the corny realm. I'll never ever forget "Happiness Shall Prevail", as that had a rather enjoyable level of silliness to it and "Candyman". Candyman was probably the most cute-attempted Dr. Who character to have an ominous presence. That's because his humor was very dark, and he was a murderous sadist with a fetish bordering on disturbing. Another quirky episode was the Carnival one(people go in, but they don't come out). Some of the better episodes consisted of stuff like the Battle of the Daleks. Earth was their warfront. Still, like some people were saying about this new Dr, most of Sly's episodes were more for humor and not totally serious.

Now if the Doctor gets a partner like Tom Baker's Warrior girl (Leela), then I'll have to watch every episode of that. I always thought the Doctor performed best, not with yet another brain at his side, but with a trained fighter. She did all the things that Doctor wouldn't do, so they had perfect synergy (IMO).
 

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Clearly, YOu guys never have heard of a show called the "Twilight Zone"
 

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norton9478 said:
Clearly, YOu guys never have heard of a show called the "Twilight Zone"

Twilight Zone is Fantasy/Horror.

No offense but you're off by a few genres. :kekeke:
 
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