Soldiers recall time spent guarding ex Iraqi leader in this month's GQ

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Report: Saddam Insists He Is Iraqi Leader

By RICHARD PYLE, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago

Saddam Hussein loves Doritos, hates Froot Loops, admires President Reagan, thinks Clinton was "OK" and considers both Presidents Bush "no good." He talks a lot, worries about germs and insists he is still president of Iraq.

Those and other details of the deposed Iraqi leader's life in U.S. military custody appear in the July issue of GQ magazine, based on interviews with five Pennsylvania National Guardsmen who went to Iraq in 2003 and were assigned to Saddam's guard detail for nearly 10 months.

The magazine, which reached newsstands Monday, said the GIs could not tell their families what they were doing and signed pledges not to reveal the location or other details of the U.S.-run compound where Saddam was an HDV, or "high value detainee," awaiting trial by Iraqi authorities for mass killings and other crimes.

However, the five soldiers told GQ of their personal interactions with Saddam, saying he spoke with them in rough English, was interested in their lives and even invited them back to Iraq when he returns to power.

"He'd always tell us he was still the president. That's what he thinks, 100 percent," said Spc. Jesse Dawson, 25, of Berwick, Pa.

A Pentagon spokesman had no comment on the article.

The GIs recalled that Saddam had harsh words for the Bushes, each of whom went to war against him.

"The Bush father, son, no good," Cpl. Jonathan "Paco" Reese, 22, of Millville, Pa., quoted Saddam as saying.

Spc. Sean O'Shea, then 19, of Minooka, Pa., said Saddam later mellowed in that view. "Towards the end, he was saying that he doesn't hold any hard feelings and he just wanted to talk to (George W.) Bush, to make friends with him," he told the magazine.

Dawson quoted Saddam as saying: "He knows I have nothing, no mass weapons. He knows he'll never find them."

Their description of the man who once lived in palaces and now occupies a cell with no personal privacy matched recently published photos, apparently smuggled out of prison, showing Saddam in his underwear and a long robe.

The story said that once, when Saddam fell during his twice-a-week shower, "panic ensued. No one wanted him to be hurt while being guarded by Americans." One GI had to help Saddam back to his cell, while another carried his underwear.

Saddam was friendly toward his young guards and sometimes offered fatherly advice. When O'Shea told him he was not married, Saddam "started telling me what to do," recalled the soldier. "He was like, `You gotta find a good woman. Not too smart, not too dumb. Not too old, not too young. One that can cook and clean.'"

Then he smiled, made what O'Shea interpreted as a "spanking" gesture, laughed and went back to doing his laundry in the sink.

The soldiers also said Saddam was a "clean freak" who washed after shaking hands and used diaper wipes to clean meal trays, utensils and table before eating. "He had germophobia or whatever you call it," Dawson said.

The article said Saddam preferred Raisin Bran Crunch for breakfast, telling O'Shea, "No Froot Loops." He ate fish and chicken but refused beef.

For a time his favorite snack was Cheetos, and when that ran out, Saddam would "get grumpy," the story said. One day, guards substituted Doritos corn chips, and Saddam forgot about Cheetos. "He'd eat a family size bag of Doritos in 10 minutes," Dawson said.

The magazine said Saddam told his guards that when the Americans invaded Iraq in March 2003, he "tried to flee in a taxicab as the tanks were rolling in," and U.S. planes struck the palace he was trying to reach instead of the one he was in.

"Then he started laughing," recalled Reese. "He goes, `America, they dumb. They bomb wrong palace.'"

Saddam also said his capture in an underground hideout on Dec. 18, 2003, resulted from betrayal by the only man who knew where he was, and had been paid to keep the secret.

"He was really mad about that," Dawson said. "He compared himself to Jesus, how Judas told on Jesus. He was like, `That's how it was for me.' If his Judas never said anything, nobody ever would have found him, he said."

U.S. officials said at the time that intelligence from several sources led to Saddam's capture.

The magazine said Saddam prayed five times a day and kept a Quran that he claimed to have found in rubble near his hideout. "He proudly showed (it) to the boys because it was burned around the edges and had a bullet hole in it," GQ said.

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Saddam also said his capture in an underground hideout on Dec. 18, 2003, resulted from betrayal by the only man who knew where he was, and had been paid to keep the secret.

The only interesting thing of the artilce. If furthers the rumor that the story about Sadam's capture was 50% a BS propogandist like.

Anyways, it shows Sadam as he is and not how Bush wanted us to see him.

A fairly reasonable, but nerotic human being.

Not the religious, american hating zealot that the media portrays him as.
 

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Since when has anyone described Saddam as particularly religious? Iraq under the Baathist party was arguably the most secular of any Middle Eastern state--why do you think the Christians flourished? Contrast that with Egypt, where they've been completely driven out.

Saddam isn't an idiot, especially managing to hold onto power in spite of war with Iran and assassination attempts on both him and his family. He doesn't want to be executed--he's suddenly become mysteriously religious ever since being locked up, and it makes sense that he's trying to project a better image of himself in front of an Islamic people. Similarly, I'm sure it's quite evident to him that he'd potentially get off with a lighter sentence if he tries to present as kind an image as possible. Too bad plenty of people have seen those B&W images of him and his boys using political prisoners as handgun target practice.

I wonder if I'm the only one on these boards getting tired of how disingenuous some folks are here of trying to condemn Bush and the 2003 Iraq War. You don't have to agree with the policy--plenty of people thought we had no business going into Bosnia, a place that should've been the province of Europe, not the United States. But, a lot of these arguments/observations are nothing more than spew. I see more intelligent posts come from Jedah Domah.
 

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Well at one point, nearly 75% of all americans thought that Sadam Hussien was directly connected to Al Quida (Despite the fact that they are enemies).

Walk into any main st. dinner and people will tell you that they think that Hussien is spiritualy in the same boat with the Khomeni, Bin laden, Mullah Omar and any other Fundementalist radical.

I didn't grow up in an Intellectualist, hippy filled part of the country. Some things that are obvious in San Fransico are forign to people in Mongomery, AL.
 

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Ely13 said:
I wonder if I'm the only one on these boards getting tired of how disingenuous some folks are here of trying to condemn Bush and the 2003 Iraq War. You don't have to agree with the policy--plenty of people thought we had no business going into Bosnia, a place that should've been the province of Europe, not the United States. But, a lot of these arguments/observations are nothing more than spew. I see more intelligent posts come from Jedah Domah.

It is Bush's fault. Hell I belived him. I didn't know it was all one BS lie. I thought Michael Moore was some crazy fuctard (which in a lot of ways, he Is). But he was right when the country was absolutely wrong.

I grew up with a great mistrust of Republicans, I trusted them once and I learned my lesson.

Ely13 said:
I wonder if I'm the only one on these boards getting tired of how disingenuous some folks are here of trying to condemn Bush and the 2003 Iraq War. You don't have to agree with the policy--plenty of people thought we had no business going into Vietnam, a place that should've been the province of Europe, not the United States. But, a lot of these arguments/observations are nothing more than spew. I see more intelligent posts come from Jedah Domah.

Fixed
 

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:D

I read that article a little earlier today on my cell phone and thought "that would be a good article to post"... Wopat beat me.

Very amusing article.
 

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Ely13. please leave the banter at the door. prior to your arival there was alot of this going on. most of us are just tired of it. thanx
 

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Yeah seriously, this isn't a political thread.

This is a thread to comment on the obvious superiority of Cheetos to Doritos, something that Saddam clearly doesn't understand. Godless heathen.
 

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lot of people sayin we are treating sadam bad in captivity, shit, the boy eating better than I am, all i got in my pocket is a buck 50 and my stomach is touching my back, damn.
 
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norton9478 said:
The only interesting thing of the artilce. If furthers the rumor that the story about Sadam's capture was 50% a BS propogandist like.

Anyways, it shows Sadam as he is and not how Bush wanted us to see him.

A fairly reasonable, but nerotic human being.

Not the religious, american hating zealot that the media portrays him as.

I don't know that 'reasonable' is the proper term there, him authorizing mass murders and all.

He certainly didn't hate America- not when america told him they didn't care if he invaded Kuwait. Yeah, the Bushes set him up, but he's not a good guy. Still, it's interesting to see. I tend to imagine most power-hungry dictators are far less different from guys on the street than the media would have us believe.

And yeah, he was definitely secular and his regime didn't get along with Al Qaeda, and there was a TON of propoganda claiming otherwise here. Really disgusting.
 

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jethrek said:
I don't know that 'reasonable' is the proper term there, him authorizing mass murders and all.

He certainly didn't hate America- not when america told him they didn't care if he invaded Kuwait. Yeah, the Bushes set him up, but he's not a good guy. Still, it's interesting to see. I tend to imagine most power-hungry dictators are far less different from guys on the street than the media would have us believe.

And yeah, he was definitely secular and his regime didn't get along with Al Qaeda, and there was a TON of propoganda claiming otherwise here. Really disgusting.

Yeah I meant reasonable from a personality standpoint.
Poor word choice.

I meant it in contrast to popular american folklore.
 
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