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This question was asked in a thread about drug usage, and it somehow got into talks about street fighting where I'd mentioned using a $10.00 row of quarters to weight your fist to punch a mofo out, or break a collar bone etc. A few ppl (AztekNinja, SquareHater etc.) have also wanted to see the now infamous "Fork Puncher" I'm always talking about so it's all below, made the same way my father's generation did back in 1958 in rumbles and shit. It's low tech but it works very well.
Well the answer to this is simple. IT IS easy to break your own hand doing closed fist punches, however, it's in how you throw the punch even weighted down. You basically don't have to put too much force behind it (the weighted fist) because you're generally following up a low kick that's to the shins, or even breaking a knee cap and as the person's center of gravity comes down towards you, the weighted punch is delivered (if going to the collar bone in particular) while offsetting your own body weight slightly backwards but not so much that your off balance... but the punch (if using a right punch) is coming slightly downward with a slight twist of the wrist and it's in a snapping motion, meaning your transfering part of your body weight into the punch, but it's snapped back as it makes just enough contact with the person falling into you + the weight of the $10.00 row of quarters. I won't lie, it doesn't always work, but it has for me in the past and the fight is usually over right there. The open palm punch is easier no doubt, but if you use it wrong to the face you run the risk of accidentally pushing someone's nose into their brain and killing them... and you don't want that. A busted up knee cap, a broken collar bone, or a fucked up ear drum that takes away a person's equilibrium is usually all in the space of a few seconds (no more than 8) depending on the situation at hand.
I never told these guys to go and do it, I said if you're feeling intimidated/unsure about yourself (or just want to have an upper hand possibly) you can always carry the row of quarters. It's really up to the person in question to figure out how best to defend themselves, and it's for defensive purposes and should not be thought of as an offensive weapon, because it's extremely low-tech and once ppl figure out that angle some "knife" guy or worst will just put you down. It's about the element of surprise and ppl not realising your one of the few who uses such a street tactic. That's why fighting verus martial arts is generally deadlier or at least more effective... a fighter isn't worried about if such and such form is perfect, he/she uses the martial arts and combines them with anything and everything to perfect the best way be it bare handed or armed to end a fight as quickly and with as much damage as possible.
NOW THEN...
Glad it worked out for you, just don't depend on it too much. It's good for what it is, but its not going to solve anything. I find wearing a bungie cord of some length around my neck like some odd collar is good for various things in a moments notice as well... everything from whipping a dog if it's vicious and trying to bite you, to a garotte in a fight, or snapping it like a Chinese Rope-Dart during a fight, then using it in other manners. Most ppl just think you look weird walking around with one, but they are useful in many ways as well as just having a good bungie cord for it's intended purposes.
I can't tell you how to make chains come out your arms, but a bicycle chain coiled up from either end and duct taped into a handle makes a great whip. As for the fork puncher. Here are some pictures of it...
What you see above ^ is crude and is more of an offensive weapon as it was originally made by guys who needed something small and ingenious for massive rumbles in the 1950's. No two FPs will ever look perfect because it's just not possible. I do carry the one pictured from time to time, but its not a good idea in 2005 to use it offensively. More like it's a last resort "Defensive" weapon because of the damage it will do. This sucker even without the tips sharpened will dig into flesh with enough force behind it no problem. Sharpened, a face punch, twist and rip down will forever scar the human face. Thus it's more for jabbing into the rib cage, punching below the neckline and scratching. But it can be used for a good dust up as well if some kind of rumble is going down. Since most punks today use guns, most have never seen one of these let alone know how to make one, and I'm not telling... though it's not rocket science. You should see what can be done with a metal spoon.
That's it for this class in Close Quarters Combat SF tactics though. The bottom line is to never look for a fight, but be ready to decimate an opponent or multiples as qucikly and as with as much damage as possible, then get the fuck outta' dodge.
JHendrix said:
Well the answer to this is simple. IT IS easy to break your own hand doing closed fist punches, however, it's in how you throw the punch even weighted down. You basically don't have to put too much force behind it (the weighted fist) because you're generally following up a low kick that's to the shins, or even breaking a knee cap and as the person's center of gravity comes down towards you, the weighted punch is delivered (if going to the collar bone in particular) while offsetting your own body weight slightly backwards but not so much that your off balance... but the punch (if using a right punch) is coming slightly downward with a slight twist of the wrist and it's in a snapping motion, meaning your transfering part of your body weight into the punch, but it's snapped back as it makes just enough contact with the person falling into you + the weight of the $10.00 row of quarters. I won't lie, it doesn't always work, but it has for me in the past and the fight is usually over right there. The open palm punch is easier no doubt, but if you use it wrong to the face you run the risk of accidentally pushing someone's nose into their brain and killing them... and you don't want that. A busted up knee cap, a broken collar bone, or a fucked up ear drum that takes away a person's equilibrium is usually all in the space of a few seconds (no more than 8) depending on the situation at hand.
I never told these guys to go and do it, I said if you're feeling intimidated/unsure about yourself (or just want to have an upper hand possibly) you can always carry the row of quarters. It's really up to the person in question to figure out how best to defend themselves, and it's for defensive purposes and should not be thought of as an offensive weapon, because it's extremely low-tech and once ppl figure out that angle some "knife" guy or worst will just put you down. It's about the element of surprise and ppl not realising your one of the few who uses such a street tactic. That's why fighting verus martial arts is generally deadlier or at least more effective... a fighter isn't worried about if such and such form is perfect, he/she uses the martial arts and combines them with anything and everything to perfect the best way be it bare handed or armed to end a fight as quickly and with as much damage as possible.
NOW THEN...
AztekNinja said:
Glad it worked out for you, just don't depend on it too much. It's good for what it is, but its not going to solve anything. I find wearing a bungie cord of some length around my neck like some odd collar is good for various things in a moments notice as well... everything from whipping a dog if it's vicious and trying to bite you, to a garotte in a fight, or snapping it like a Chinese Rope-Dart during a fight, then using it in other manners. Most ppl just think you look weird walking around with one, but they are useful in many ways as well as just having a good bungie cord for it's intended purposes.
I can't tell you how to make chains come out your arms, but a bicycle chain coiled up from either end and duct taped into a handle makes a great whip. As for the fork puncher. Here are some pictures of it...
What you see above ^ is crude and is more of an offensive weapon as it was originally made by guys who needed something small and ingenious for massive rumbles in the 1950's. No two FPs will ever look perfect because it's just not possible. I do carry the one pictured from time to time, but its not a good idea in 2005 to use it offensively. More like it's a last resort "Defensive" weapon because of the damage it will do. This sucker even without the tips sharpened will dig into flesh with enough force behind it no problem. Sharpened, a face punch, twist and rip down will forever scar the human face. Thus it's more for jabbing into the rib cage, punching below the neckline and scratching. But it can be used for a good dust up as well if some kind of rumble is going down. Since most punks today use guns, most have never seen one of these let alone know how to make one, and I'm not telling... though it's not rocket science. You should see what can be done with a metal spoon.
That's it for this class in Close Quarters Combat SF tactics though. The bottom line is to never look for a fight, but be ready to decimate an opponent or multiples as qucikly and as with as much damage as possible, then get the fuck outta' dodge.
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