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kernow · Jun 10, 2005

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/09/news_6127219.html

Lets Gekiga In · Jun 10, 2005

Same story as last gen for Sony?

soulthug · Jun 10, 2005

MMMmmm... porn.

Lagduf · Jun 10, 2005

Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi has been calling the PlayStation 3 an "entertainment supercomputer"

Linux=supercomputer

:kekeke:

PS2 could run Linux also. I never really understood the point. Linux sux homes

Mark of the Wolves · Jun 10, 2005

I don't think it will matter much. Since no one has still said they would do anything really great with the hard drive. And if it cuts back on the price for the console I'm all for it. Even though I always thought hard drives would be standard this time around.

Nesagwa · Jun 10, 2005

I believe its wrong that, while we've been calling PlayStations "computers," Nintendo, which is in our same business, keeps telling the world their consoles are "toys." So even though we're making something that has the capability to be recognized as a supercomputer and requires paperwork when exporting or importing, the government sees it as a "toy." The PlayStation 2 has something as great as the Emotion Engine, and it can even run Linux, but it's still considered a gaming machine. I thought that the situation would become better since Microsoft appeared [in the gaming industry] from the IT field. But they won't say it either, since they want to protect their business. They see problems if the Xbox could run Windows, so they keep calling the Xbox a "game machine." It is really a pain in the neck. This time, we're positioning the PS3 as a "supercomputer." But people won't recognize it as a computer unless we call it a computer, so we're going to run an OS on it. In fact, the Cell can run multiple OSes. In order to run the OSes, we need an HDD. So in order to declare that the PS3 is a computer, I think we'll have [the PS3's HDD] preinstalled with Linux as a bonus.

I want to strangle this guy. Seriously. If I were interviewing him I would punch him in the face and tell him to get out of my site.

PS. It doesnt take a super computer with a 120GB HD (which isnt enough by their standards) to run linux :kekeke:

kobylka68 · Jun 10, 2005

Nesagwa said:
I want to strangle this guy. Seriously. If I were interviewing him I would punch him in the face and tell him to get out of my site.

PS. It doesnt take a super computer with a 120GB HD (which isnt enough by their standards) to run linux

He means that the system is capable of being a supercomputer and in order for it to even be classified as a computer it will need an OS. Hence the Linux. Otherwise it's just another gaming console.

Lovecraft0110 · Jun 10, 2005

Supercomputer my ass. That guy is a moron, and should be beaten for his idiocy.

JHendrix · Jun 10, 2005

PS2 Linux runs sloooooowwwwwwwwwwwww.....

Supercomputer? Sure it can do tons of FLOPS, but that alone does not make it the equivalent of even a $300 Dell desktop for performance.

A gaming CPU does not a general purpose CPU make. That's why the G5 is a "supercomputer" that still has trouble resizing windows as quickly as Windows can.

People just don't understand that CPU's can be specialized for one thing and be absolutely crap for other things.

Nesagwa · Jun 10, 2005

kobylka68 said:
He means that the system is capable of being a supercomputer and in order for it to even be classified as a computer it will need an OS. Hence the Linux. Otherwise it's just another gaming console.

Oh I thought we were takling about video games here, not running servers from our living room.

soulthug · Jun 10, 2005

Nesagwa said:
Oh I thought we were takling about video games here, not running servers from our living room.

Yeah.

Consoles are for games, Computers are for other stuff.

kobylka68 · Jun 10, 2005

Nesagwa said:
Oh I thought we were takling about video games here, not running servers from our living room.

sony has spent very little time talking about videogames. they are more interested in the online, movie playing and recording capabilites and the such.

Yodd · Jun 10, 2005

kobylka68 said:
sony has spent very little time talking about videogames. they are more interested in the online, movie playing and recording capabilites and the such.

Yeah, cause they are going to get their ass KICKED by Microsoft.

The Playstation franchise has had a good 10 year run. Time to hand the torch over to someone else. And since Nintendo already had their time in the spotlight...

Mark of the Wolves · Jun 10, 2005

GiLL said:
Yeah, cause they are going to get their ass KICKED by Microsoft.

The Playstation franchise has had a good 10 year run. Time to hand the torch over to someone else. And since Nintendo already had their time in the spotlight...

Keep dreaming. Microsoft is going to have to move some units in Japan you now way more than a million which they didn't even manage to do with the Xbox yet. Until then they have no chance of doing anything but barely squeezing out Nintendo. Even with them launching a year early it doesn't even look like they are going to have many units out.

kobylka68 · Jun 10, 2005

GiLL said:
Yeah, cause they are going to get their ass KICKED by Microsoft.

The Playstation franchise has had a good 10 year run. Time to hand the torch over to someone else. And since Nintendo already had their time in the spotlight...

I doubt that the playstation franchise will go down so easily. with a hard drive and linux running it would be easy to get roms going on it, it has great franchises to back it up, lots of power. The big advantage of the xbox is it's online capabilties. In North America it will be too close to call, but in Japan I don't see the xbox 360 making any dent in the market at all.

kernow · Jun 10, 2005

GiLL said:
Yeah, cause they are going to get their ass KICKED by Microsoft.

The Playstation franchise has had a good 10 year run. Time to hand the torch over to someone else. And since Nintendo already had their time in the spotlight...

oh, my you're a fucking idiot.

Verythrax · Jun 10, 2005

Take that article from 1999 about the linux kit for PS2 and change it to PS3. Voilá!

LWK · Jun 10, 2005

xbox beat ps3? pfft.

Maybe this will give me a chance to actually try linux. Kernow, asking honestly, what makes it a standout?

jethrek · Jun 10, 2005

Lord Wolfgang Krauser said:
xbox beat ps3? pfft.

Maybe this will give me a chance to actually try linux. Kernow, asking honestly, what makes it a standout?

Well, I'm running Windows XP and Linux on a dual boot in this machine. at 500 MB of RAM, Linux never slows a moment when switching between windows. XP churns a bit at the same task.

Honestly, both took about equally long to get working. Windows took a while to get the D-Link wireless drivers installed, Linux took a while to get ndiswrapper to run a Windows driver (long story, but it works out int he end)

It's not moron friendly though. Be prepared to hang around chat asking other Linux users (especially kernow) questions.

jethrek · Jun 10, 2005

GiLL said:
Yeah, cause they are going to get their ass KICKED by Microsoft.

The Playstation franchise has had a good 10 year run. Time to hand the torch over to someone else. And since Nintendo already had their time in the spotlight...

Please. I don't even LIKE Sony but PS3 is likely to dominate, unless Sony goes to far into the red on it (which I don't rate as likely at this moment).

If they go down though, it will be purely on them, not MS.

JHendrix · Jun 10, 2005

jethrek said:
Well, I'm running Windows XP and Linux on a dual boot in this machine. at 500 MB of RAM, Linux never slows a moment when switching between windows. XP churns a bit at the same task.

Honestly, both took about equally long to get working. Windows took a while to get the D-Link wireless drivers installed, Linux took a while to get ndiswrapper to run a Windows driver (long story, but it works out int he end)

It's not moron friendly though. Be prepared to hang around chat asking other Linux users (especially kernow) questions.

I'm hurt.

I helped you get ndiswrapper running while the kernster was off being British or something.

And yeah, Linux is a bitch and a half to get working compared to Windows or Mac OS.

galfordo · Jun 10, 2005

lolz - this war between M$ and Sony is getting pretty fucking personal. :kekeke:

supergoose · Jun 10, 2005

funny thing is that they only want to declare it as a 'super computer' to save on customs. simple as that.
looks like they have to pay more customs fees, when they're importing 'toys' than if they'd import a 'computer'. and since ps3 systems will be made in asia, they'll still have to import them or else they won't have anything to sell to the europeans.

and yes, they tried to pull the same one, when they released the ps2, but it didn't work out as planned, since it obviously wasn't what the customs guys would have expected from a 'pc'.

other than that ...
why all the bitching? you guys could use emulation, movies and music without the need of any mods. doesn't sound all that bad to me. might even turn out to be a real sweet machine/media server. i know i'd want one, if this would turn out to be true. even more, if it would actually be possible run mac osx on it.

jethrek · Jun 11, 2005

JHendrix said:
I'm hurt.

I helped you get ndiswrapper running while the kernster was off being British or something.

And yeah, Linux is a bitch and a half to get working compared to Windows or Mac OS.

It's true, I owe you credit on ndiswrapper. kernow just wanted to know why I didn't have a 50 ft CAT5 on hand.

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