Hyper64 revision 1 anxiety

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 9, 2005

Hello, sorry for the newb question.

I have a hyper 64 revision 1 board hooked up to a sigma 7,000 supergun. I don't have the 5 voltaget thingy hooked up. The shop owner told me not to worry about it.

I've noticed when i play the metal parts on the board get pretty hot. So far I've had it on about 5 hours and nothing has happened.

Should I worry about my board burning out? I was thinking about trying to find a revision 2 board.

Thanks for you time.

Amano Jacu · Jun 9, 2005

Personally, I wouldnt use it without the aditional 5V cable as you might blow up something... Anyway if it worked for so long...

Heres a manual scan about it:

ttooddddyy · Jun 9, 2005

Anyone ever measured what a N64 draws from the +5 volt supply.

Obviously more than a 6 slot MVS which is typically 5 amps, the 6 slots get hot and toasty on the 5 volt jamma edge connect.

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 9, 2005

Thanks for your quick replies. I play it now in one hour bursts and it seems to be doing ok. I think I just need to get a revision 2 board. I have no idea how I'd get a hold of a 5 volt power supply and I don't have the technical know-how to wire anything up.

Oh well. The whole set up was really cheap. So if it does blow up I might be ok (except for the shrapnel)

Wild Ambition rocks! Buriki One is also good, but very very strange. I wish the stages changed when you played versus mode. Very cool system.

ttooddddyy · Jun 9, 2005

It wont blow up, but it may be a good idea to run an additional wire (reasonably heavy gauge) from the power supply to the mobo for the 5 volts, solder it to a convienient 5 volt rail position on the board. It may prevent your jamma edge connect toasting up.

I didnt realise that this was an issue with the N64 untill this thread.

MKL · Jun 9, 2005

RBjakeSpecial said:
I have no idea how I'd get a hold of a 5 volt power supply and I don't have the technical know-how to wire anything up.

You don't need another power supply, just an additional power harness whose function apparently (I have never looked at the NG64 closely) is a better power distribution to the board (or parts thereof). It can be compared to the secondary power connector found on MVS 4- and 6-slots that helps power the top board (and is often not used).

ttooddddyy · Jun 9, 2005

As MKL said you will not require an additional power supply, most typical arcade supplies (say 15 amps) would have twice what you require to run a N64 imho.

The area of concern is with the jamma edge connect, there is resistance there, so thats where it will cook. Running a secondary 5 volt conection between the psu and the mobo will get around this

edit- beefing up the ground connection wouldnt do any harm either.

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 9, 2005

Thanks!

I have no idea what that means, but one of my friends does. When he comes over next time I'll ask him to do it!

I think I'll end up getting a revision 2 board though, just sounds like a lot less of a hassle. Plus SS64 and SS2 only work with the rev. 2.

ttooddddyy · Jun 9, 2005

ttooddddyy said:
typical arcade supplies (say 15 amps) would have twice what you require to run a N64 imho.

As a matter of interest what type of power supply does that SG use, Im assuming arcade specs ?

Amano Jacu · Jun 9, 2005

RBjakeSpecial said:
Plus SS64 and SS2 only work with the rev. 2.

Are you sure about this?

Anyway as MKL and tody say you don't need an aditional psu, just an extra wire coming from it. By the way, just a silly question, I guess it is not possible to feed a JAMMA board with 2 psu's, one for 5V and antoher for 12V, right? That would mess the ground references I guess.

ttooddddyy · Jun 9, 2005

Amano Jacu said:
Are you sure about this?

Anyway as MKL and tody say you don't need an aditional psu, just an extra wire coming from it. By the way, just a silly question, I guess it is not possible to feed a JAMMA board with 2 psu's, one for 5V and antoher for 12V, right? That would mess the ground references I guess.

It is possible to do that as long as the grounding is common on both supplies.

I do not see any advantage in doing this really, the 5 volts is relatively high current, like 15 amps max on a Peter Choi arcade psu. The 12 volts maybe 2 to 3 amps max, which is more than sufficient as it usually supplies only the audio stage.

Not drawing from the 12 volt supply will increase max output current of the 5 volts- but if its already 2 or 3 times the max required to run the boardset- it becomes academic.

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 9, 2005

Amano Jacu said:
Are you sure about this?

Nope, that's just what the arcade board shop owner told me. Have no idea if it's true or not.

J0e Musashi · Jun 9, 2005

RBjakeSpecial said:
Nope, that's just what the arcade board shop owner told me. Have no idea if it's true or not.

Its not, he's getting confused with the Korean SS game-only mobo.

chris1 · Jun 9, 2005

NOTE..As I've heard when you run the REV 1 board "without" the Correct hook-ups(additional 5V cable & Ground) ..If the Mobo Blows out it'll take the cart with it..

I would suggest hooking up the additional 5V+ cable & Ground if you don't want the game to burn out too.

Curious..Do you have the Speaker Wires/Extra Speaker Wire Harness hooked up..?

pixeljunkie · Jun 9, 2005

chris1 said:
Curious..Do you have the Speaker Wires/Extra Speaker Wire Harness hooked up..?

It might be modded, I came across one that had a weird mod where the audio was soldered back to the JAMMA pins. ??? It was sold to me as a Rev. 2 [GWGAT! woohoo! :angry:

] So, I didn't even test it, just sent it back immediatelly....but found the mod interesting.

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 9, 2005

The music comes out mono. There are some wires in the back. Hmmm....

chris1 · Jun 9, 2005

pixeljunkie said:
It might be modded, I came across one that had a weird mod where the audio was soldered back to the JAMMA pins. ??? It was sold to me as a Rev. 2 [GWGAT! woohoo! ] So, I didn't even test it, just sent it back immediatelly....but found the mod interesting.

Ohh Man...heh.. :eek:

This is one of the Mods I wanted to try for the heck of it....(working with another member on this)

I also wanted to try and do away with the need of the Extra 5V+ and Grounds by wiring-Soldering them to the Edge connectors V+ and Ground locations.

I had got two REV 1 boards missing all the extra stuff,no volume knob/Molex Plug Plate or anything.
So I sent one to a member to mess with(mod) in the future..

They do work,Plugging in either of the boards(for me)into a Jamma-Mono set-up provides mono sound at a moderate level but I can't adjust it due to no volume knob...(Game plays perfectly etc)
It's been so long that I can't remember if I had actually switched the wires around in the Candy Cab from Stereo to Mono when I tried these boards.
So that may be the reason I got sound out of these boards...and others may not.

I've used the boards one or twice like that...I'm too worried I'll burn a cart out.
I have a Boxed REV 1 with all the parts I need to set it up right,I'm just too lazy to do it.. :loco:

..no time..

chris1 · Jun 9, 2005

RBjakeSpecial said:
The music comes out mono. There are some wires in the back. Hmmm....

Do you have a Volume Knob..?

Does your board look like this..?

RBjakeSpecial · Jun 9, 2005

chris1 said:
Do you have a Volume Knob..?

Does your board look like this..?

Looks exactly like that.

Hyper64 revision 1 anxiety

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