Future AES cartridges? Please read and think about it

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steve_stanflovsky

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I will basically say what I did in the NCS thread. If we want to keep having more aes titles made, then we have to stick together and show support to NGF. They are doing their best to keep the neo going. No other person or company can say otherwise or even claim the same. In the beginning everyone wanted to argue whether the English KoF 2000 was official and legit. And since it has been proven over and over again that it is 100% legit, everyone now wants to shift and say they will not support NGF. That is pure stupidity to say that. You are basically killing any future of an officially released game. Remember, KoF 2000 is now understood that it's legit. Verified by many people here and even posted by NCS, who claims to have spoke directly to SNK officers who confirmed the English KoF 2000 and NGF as the USA distributors. Keep that in mind.

I have been speaking to Dion by email and by telephone and I will meet him soon. He tells me that he has been talking to many people, including members of this place. And it seems everyone is agreeing that we have to come together and show support. The more games are made, the cheaper they can be sold. If NGF orders 1200 copies of the next game, they will be able to sell them for $350. This is a $420,000.00 investment on their part for distrubtion rights, cost of production, art, shipping, and other costs.
Do you think anyone else would invest that type of money upfront for such a small return? And with all the headaches of dealing with SNK in Japan?
NGF says they are striving to release all future Neo titles as well as other past titles, like Strikers and PI2. And these can all be sold at normal prices. But to do all this, we need to come together as a family and as a community and get enough orders in and filled. Show support to NGF and contact NCS, otherwise all future games will have to be converted carts. And since all future carts are on protcted boards, the sac carts will have to be KoF 99s or later carts. That alone is $200. Add in the cost of new mvs carts coming in at $1000 and the cost is just too high. If everyone wants these titles for $350 and for them to be official, then we have to support NGF. Just common sense.

People, you really need to think about what you're doing. You are killing the Neo AES by acting the way you do. Keep this in mind, history has been made by NGF. They did what it took to get one game officially made. And when it's all over, their name will be in the books for the great efforts they did. Maybe later people will realize what they have done. It started off by providing unreleased carts, and then to fully making an official cart. In the cartridge guides it will list KoF 2000 as being released in Japanese and English. And we know how the English one came about.

NGF has done their best to promote the Neo AES, now we need to do the same and help them.

Don't bother replying if you're going to act a fool and make stupid remarks. I took the time to post something that has meaning and content and I don't want it ruined with the same garbage of "NGF this" and "NGF that."
This is what is tearing everyone apart, even the moderators are giving up on you people. So start being positive.

very sincerely,
Steve Stanflovsky
 

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Being the top poster on this forum, I would like to offer my thoughts. First and foremost, you are obviasly biased, and I dont like that you call my prison remark, stupid. It was logical and thought out. NGF has done dirty deeds, to many people, and aver very difficult. They have an ego problem, that goes so far as to HARM the comunity, I suggest you do more research before you join their bandwagon... in time they will screw you over, and you will see... dont take my word for it... let time tell.
 

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How come the only people who loves NGF are the newbies? Does that mean something? That they dont know what the hell the y are talking about...or is this just ngf posting under another name?? You are right, the neo community needs to rally together behind comapnies like ncsx and hope that they will deal with snk directly so we can bias ngf...As Dream2ho says to many people have had horrible experiences with them and they are very unprofessional.....If i started to hear good things from the people who have been here for awhile then it might be a different story
 

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Originally posted by smurphy570:
If i started to hear good things from the people who have been here for awhile then it might be a different story

I have provided information about how my deal has gone off without a hitch. I have been in the Neo "internet" scene for over two years. John has provided information a deal gone well and he has probably been on the scene even longer. Kyle and Anthony have been on the net even longer but their posts are far and few between because they don't want to waste their time. Others don't even bother to post. The point is that NGF does provide good service at times, you just have to be intelligent in your dealings with them.

Sincerely,

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steve_stanflovsky

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My deal was fine and all my deals were perfect. NGF also gave me bonus items with every purchase. I have never had a problem. And of the people I have heard from, they were all satisfied and just as happy with their sevice from NGF as I was. It seems the people that talk bad about NGF have never made a deal with them. So your words have no meaning and should not even be mentioned unless you have first account experience.
Again, I am just saying that we need to support the Neo. And that now means NGF. As long as they keep satisfying their customers, we should support their efforts.

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So Steve, you seem to be very happy with your "deals" with NGF.

Please do tell us about the "deals"? What carts did you get from them, and when?

Why is it you suddenly appear here out of the blue, supporting NGF, when we have never heard from you before?

What state do you live in (I notice your profile conveniently left that out)? Nevada, by chance?

What extras were included in your deals, just curious cause I might want to order from NGF and get some extras, too?

How is it you know so much about NCS? And about costs of 1200 cartridges and what NGF would sell them for?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . sounds kinda suspicious to me . . .
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Well, some people like to deal with Devil and that's their choice. chimpmeister, I agree with your point that those "newbies" or "I have been in the Neo "internet" scene for over years" that they start appearing all of suddent. Just like they said, they don't want to "waste" their time posting anything here so why they start doing it now? It doesn't make sense to me. Seems to me they have lots time to waste now.........
 
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steve_stanflovsky

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I am not a newbie. I have had my AEs for 7 years. My collction is past the 120 cart mark. I don't post and never knew of this place until today. It was Dion that told me to check this place out to see how some people act. My deals range from cheap games to the big games. Some of the bonuses were neo flyers, posters, Neo Geo World power cards, and other collectibles. I live in Illinois. I called Dion on the phone many times, and I called him today. He told me to keep a watch at NCS because they will be posting about their new restock of carts and cds. NGF sold the other stock to NCS and now they are selling another load. He said he told this to the moderator Geddon-it also. Are you going to ask him too?
So, now will you tell me about yourself?
What is your collection like? Where do you live? It's nice to know that you are interested in knowing about my personal info. So now you can share yours. And we can keep discussing the Neo AES.

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Originally posted by Silent_Scope:
Well, some people like to deal with Devil and that's their choice. chimpmeister, I agree with your point that those "newbies" or "I have been in the Neo "internet" scene for over years" that they start appearing all of suddent. Just like they said, they don't want to "waste" their time posting anything here so why they start doing it now? It doesn't make sense to me. Seems to me they have lots time to waste now.........

I personally do it just to see what kind of further stupidity people can display in their posts. I have to admit that I like arguing with Chimp and some others because eventually I get to see and learn from points that are contrary to my view. But you Silent, you just fall off the intelligence scale completely...in the wrong direction. Chimps points is valid only concerning new IDs without any contact information that appear all of a sudden like "frogman" or anyone else. Anthony, Kyle and myself are NOT newbies, but I guess you will just take and twist anyone's words to better suit your anti-NGF crusade.

Sincerely,

Kale
 

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I've never dealt with NGF, nor will I will based solely off prices. However, your whole post reeks of simple mis-calculations.

"NGF orders 1200 copies of the next game, they will be able to sell them for $350. This is a $420,000.00 investment on their part for distrubtion rights, cost of production, art, shipping, and other costs.
Do you think anyone else would invest that type of money upfront for such a small return? And with all the headaches of dealing with SNK in Japan?"

Somehow I doubt two guys, who technically don't run a very active bussiness, have 420,000 to invest in new carts. And no bank I know would loan that money out for such an effort.

NCS IS the only one who could do this, simply because they have far more money then NGF could ever have. And as it is, NCS isn't selling your english copies, unless I've missed something recently.

Personally, I don't see the big friggan to do. This isn't an RPG or other text intensive game. There IS no need for an english cart the way I see it. Especially at such high ass prices.
 

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it seems everyone is agreeing that we have to come together and show support. The more games are made, the cheaper they can be sold. If NGF orders 1200 copies of the next game, they will be able to sell them for $350. This is a $420,000.00 investment on their part for distrubtion rights, cost of production, art, shipping, and other costs.

We don't need NGF to buy the games. Any company can do it. There is nothing special about NGF. I think most people rather support companies like NCS, VideoGameDepot, etc. Why should Neo Geo fans support NGF after all the people they have done wrong?

Hell, I don't even know why I'm getting involved in this arguement. I only buy MVS games
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You have to give NGF for their repetitous attempts to scam neo-geo.com forum members. They just won't give up.

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Silent_Scope

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Unfortunately I don't have "many" carts like you guys. I only have few (is that disappointed you?) and I've been in Neo World for 9 years. Having a lot of games doesn't mean you are a "true" gamer. A true gamer should share what's the best to other people who have the same interest as him. Someone wants to know where to find a certain game, tell where and which store to get (such as reputation, service, price and so on). Some people are just "collectors" but not "gamers".
 

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Opps, Posted this is the wrong place
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Actually this is a great topic to Discuss.
The future of the Neo Home carts is to be determined BY NGF. But not in they way some may think. NGF should realize they will never have the support needed to proceed with thier plans on making Neo home carts and relinguish or even help other companies like NCS in suppling this need and gracefully step out of the neo market. Even if NCS is a two man operation so is NGF and both Dion and chris have full time jobs and even live in different states from each other. If they do not do this the neo fan base will remain split with the majority siding against NGF.

Then Hopefully NCS will be able to proceed with plans Finding other means to obtaining homecarts which I am sure they will since the support is there.
 
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steve_stanflovsky

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You people are dreaming. No other company will release future Neo AES titles because the Neo is not important to them. NGF are fans of the Neo and they want to keep it going. NCS is a 2 person family run operation, from home, that is selling many cheaper games for the PSX, DC, and Nintendo. One Neo AES sale is equal to 10 PSX sales. I personally think NGF has more capitol that NCS. And besides that, NGF said they already have exclusive contracts with SNK for distribution releases in the USA. So no other place will even have the option since it would break their contract agreement and SNK could be sued for breach of contract.

Steve
 
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steve_stanflovsky

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We'll have to wait and see if these new "companies" will get together and try and distribute future AES titles. What a joke. Bad call on NCS's part. They should just stick to selling as brother and sister retailers.

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Originally posted by steve_stanflovsky:
You people are dreaming. No other company will release future Neo AES titles because the Neo is not important to them. NGF are fans of the Neo and they want to keep it going. NCS is a 2 person family run operation, from home, that is selling many cheaper games for the PSX, DC, and Nintendo. One Neo AES sale is equal to 10 PSX sales. I personally think NGF has more capitol that NCS. And besides that, NGF said they already have exclusive contracts with SNK for distribution releases in the USA. So no other place will even have the option since it would break their contract agreement and SNK could be sued for breach of contract.

Steve


and what is NGF. A 2 man operation run from 2 different location. That accepts PayPal for credit card payments. NCS has way more capital then NGF Anyone can see that. IF NGF was able to sell thier carts anyway why do they even need NCS to buy from them. Becuase they can not handle the sales themselves which we saw with the Farce know as NGF metal slug 3 english.

I can not understand why NGF is so subborn to not see it is they that are destorying the neo Market not the fan base who is the neo market. In the goal to be the sole supply of neo homecart while saying it is only Business regardless of what we say or do was thier biggest mistake. If Dion never came on the many boards with his misinformation and coocky attitude in his goal to become a "Neo God" we would not be even debating this. They are the ones responsible for this travisity and no one else.
 
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BOW BEFORE THE NEO GODS!!!! OUR DAY HATH COME!!! THIS HAS BEEN ALONG TIME COMEING!!! NOW THEY WANT PITY AND SPEW SORROWFULL DIALOG IN HOPES OF GETTING THE COMMUNITY BACK..NGF HAS MADE ITS BLOODY BED..NOW LIE IN IT.........ILL GIVE YOUR CARTS AND YOUR BUISINESS PRACTICES A PROPER BURIAL...WHEN NGF THINKS BACK ON THE NEO SCENE..REMEMBER THE DEVILS....................SAMHAIN SNK DEVIL
 
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Silent_Scope

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All I can say is that Dion has two cousins here. They are really supportive and I can tell. They all believe NGF has more money to invest and it is the last resort in US. What a joke. You want Neo gamers to believe a business running by two blind mice?
 
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steve_stanflovsky

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I can see why people talk down to each other here. The mentality of most in here is under par. Go read and book and learn something.

Steve
 
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HEY STEVE..WHY DONT YOU SUCK MY COCK!!! NGF=DICK.......PATHETIC LOSER.....YOUVE LOST THE GAME...GO CRY ON MOMMYS SHOULDER...IM READING RIGHT NOW STEVERINO, ITS CALLED THE SNK BIBLE..IM CLOSEING THIS CHAPTER..SEE YOU IN SNK HELL ........SAMHAIN LORD OF THE SNK DEAD...
 

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Originally posted by steve_stanflovsky:
I can see why people talk down to each other here. The mentality of most in here is under par. Go read and book and learn something.

Steve

What are you doing here only talkin about NGF and not Neo gaming then?


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Steve... Opps I mean dion. NGF sucks it,
NCS is not a "Home run" bussiness. They accually have a store in NYC.. Iv'e been there. They are alot bigger than NGF will EVER be.

In fact I think NCS is the biggest Importer in terms of sales over the net than anyone else...

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i laugh at you steve...ncs is the #1 one importer of games..just look at their webpage .....better then three pages like ngf......
 
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Originally posted by Lord Illicious:
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What are you doing here only talkin about NGF and not Neo gaming then?


Coz he's not a true gamer but a "collector".
Maybe he's Dion or his rats and I doubt he'll know anything about Neo gaming. He just "has" lots carts in his basement according to what he said in other forum.
 
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