gaming console laws in us no more than 299.99

$hockwave · Jun 4, 2005

i am having some arguments with my roomate about this law about gaming consoles not being more than 299.99 when they first come out.
but i do not think i remember seeing a console come out for more than that since the saturn,unless it is not a gaming machice mainly but i do not think this is true because the advancement of current consoles.

so i know that the xbox 360 is coming out at about 300 dollars but the ps3 is looking to be the first realesed blu-ray format in the us so i am looking towards a higher price point but that is my conclusion.any help for this discussion as i do not think this is true.

iamyagami22 · Jun 4, 2005

what theres a law!?

j/k but yeah the old days of cheaper consles is over just like with psp in handhelds, since gaming consoles do everything now they charge a lot for them and still take losses on them. I suspect PS3 to retail at 475$ Xbox360 at 300$ and Revolution to be 200$. Games will probably end up beaing more expensive too... like 60$ a game or more. So now since development costs are going up maybe that will mean that we will see more serious games bieng released since if a game bombs the company will lose a lot of money. Hopefully no more movie games or games like Narc :mad:

Mark of the Wolves · Jun 5, 2005

There is no such thing. They can charge whatever they want.

As for ths PS3 price it will be moe like $370.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05/24/news_6126410.html

BIG · Jun 5, 2005

Where,oh where,did you get this figure?

Weren't PSX/Sat both debuted at $399,3-DO at $699,and of course,the Neo-Geo at $599?

B-

jethrek · Jun 5, 2005

$hockwave said:
i am having some arguments with my roomate about this law about gaming consoles not being more than 299.99 when they first come out.
but i do not think i remember seeing a console come out for more than that since the saturn,unless it is not a gaming machice mainly but i do not think this is true because the advancement of current consoles.

so i know that the xbox 360 is coming out at about 300 dollars but the ps3 is looking to be the first realesed blu-ray format in the us so i am looking towards a higher price point but that is my conclusion.any help for this discussion as i do not think this is true.

There is no such law. It's marketing that keeps them low. You are both retarded.

$hockwave · Jun 5, 2005

i was going by word of mouth but as stated since the saturn i belive was the last system realesed for more than 300 at realese.so the neo-geo 3do are not factors in this.but merly just to get the facts straight.and try to look at it this way in from my friends perspective a pc can be priced well over 300 because its main purpose is not to play video games (even thou people do buy pc's for this purpose).

so look at the price of consoles since the say n64 in the us but trying to prove my point that their is no such law but somthing i thoght needed to be addressed as to same why games used to 70-80 a piece for snes but now no game is more than 50 (unless deemed a special version,limited edition or comes in special pack)

SouthtownKid · Jun 5, 2005

$hockwave said:
i was going by word of mouth but as stated since the saturn i belive was the last system realesed for more than 300 at realese.so the neo-geo 3do are not factors in this.but merly just to get the facts straight.and try to look at it this way in from my friends perspective a pc can be priced well over 300 because its main purpose is not to play video games (even thou people do buy pc's for this purpose).

so look at the price of consoles since the say n64 in the us but trying to prove my point that their is no such law but somthing i thoght needed to be addressed as to same why games used to 70-80 a piece for snes but now no game is more than 50 (unless deemed a special version,limited edition or comes in special pack)

You and your friend are living in some fantasy world if you think the government sets prices on home electronics. Either that, or you wear a helmet to school...in which case, I apologize.

But who would set such a law, and for what purpose? And it never occurred to you or your friend that maybe a pc costs more, because it costs more to make? And what about N64 games that cost $70? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that carts cost more than CDs to make...?

With you and your friend thinking up weird theories, it's odd that you didn't accidentally stumble onto the obvious truth in front of your faces.

$hockwave · Jun 5, 2005

i am not trying to cause problems just merly trying to prove my point that the goverment does not set the prices but some of you have not read my post and just replying with out thinking.but a simple discussion as always on this form got turned into somthing it did not need to be.

Lashujin · Jun 5, 2005

I think he was trying to use "law" to mean "general rule (that he thinks won't be broken)" but it incapable of putting into plain english by himself for unknown reasons

KaedesDisciple · Jun 5, 2005

$hockwave said:
i am not trying to cause problems just merly trying to prove my point that the goverment does not set the prices but some of you have not read my post and just replying with out thinking.but a simple discussion as always on this form got turned into somthing it did not need to be.

I suggest you try to use capitalization and punctuation properly. That may make your posts easier to read so you can avoid misunderstandings like this in the future.

Magnaflux · Jun 5, 2005

So you want a planned market economy? We like our free market just fine.

Communist Russia couldn't make it work and we sure as hell won't be able to pull it off.

rarehero · Jun 5, 2005

you get what you pay for,
welcome to the capitalistic free world.

Mike Shagohod · Jun 5, 2005

Well NOTHING in life is free. Thus take what you can when you can. So if you think it's too much, better start mapping out an alternative way for you to procure one. This world can lick the shit from my asshole as far as I'm concerned, and this thread is like that pasty crap that's hard to wipe from my bunghole.

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galfordo · Jun 5, 2005

Console prices will start out relatively high, in the $300-$400 range, and will then slowly go down in price as they become cheaper to manufacture. Same situation, different generation.

And as for the games being expensive at $60 a pop, this is nothing new or revolutionary. I remember paying around $75 for Street Fighter II Turbo for the SNES! And lots of other games during the 16-bit days were $60+. And then there's the price of Neo Geo homecarts ... :eek:

IMTheWalrus · Jun 5, 2005

All the systems, except the revolution, will probably be $300-350. They don't want to make it too high, because then they will be undercut by competition. These companies are prepared to take a loss on the hardware. Say Sony said the ps3 would be $399. We all know that Microsoft would have no problem pricing their system at $349 and taking whatever loss that may be on the hardware.

As for game cost, it will stay at $50 or go down I think. Despite the increased cost of production, they are selling more games, and I don't think they want to alienate gamers who aren't willing to pay a lot.

aria · Jun 5, 2005

While no actual legal law, I think its more of an unsaid rule that's been developing in the business that systems with a price-point over $300 are much harder to sell other than to the handfull of hardcore gamers and hi-tech freaks.

After all, this very site is dedicated to the original 800 lb Gorilla of overpriced debuts

Of course, SNK's pricing was the first sign that "premium" pricing on video game consoles wasn't the greatest business concept.

(and I acknowledge the Neo was bested in that (IMO) dubious category by the LaserActive)

Mark of the Wolves · Jun 5, 2005

IMTheWalrus said:
As for game cost, it will stay at $50 or go down I think. Despite the increased cost of production, they are selling more games, and I don't think they want to alienate gamers who aren't willing to pay a lot.

Supposedly when the companies did all those "special edition" versions of games last year, they were really testing the market. Would gamers really pay $59 for a game with a couple of extras? The answer was yes. And EBGames has already listed titles as $59 for the Xbox 360. It's still sort of speculation, but its quite possible. Companies are trying to squeeze a lot more money from the video game business.

Insaneclown · Jun 5, 2005

= Law

I remember about in 93 or 94 the 3DO was about $700 Canadian when released. Explain that. :tickled:

jro · Jun 6, 2005

This thread is an interesting topic introduced with horrible execution.

First off, to echo Kaede's Disciple, proofreading is your friend. Maybe the reason people aren't reading your posts very carefully is because they're damn near unintelligible, $hockwave.

Second, your roommate is the idiot, not you- at least you were trying to disabuse him of the bizarre idea that the government would think that SETTING THE PRICE OF VIDEOGAME CONSOLES is a good use of taxpayer money.

And last, I think both Sony and MS will surprise people by pricing their consoles lower than expected, closer to that $300 sweet spot than it would appear. MS has never been shy about their "lose $ on consoles to make it back on the games" philosophy, and the high sales they'll achieve in the months before the PS3 launch may be enough to encourage Sony to do the same. I'll predict $300 for XB360 and $350 for PS3. Of course, games may be $75, which would suck.

Mike Shagohod · Jun 6, 2005

jro said:
games may be $75, which would suck.

Yeah that would suck. I'm not in any fired up hurry to return to the "Horror" Days of the Nintendo 64 where after tax for one damn game I spent $81.55. Now if every game @ that price was a stellar video game, sucked me off and made me moonwalk my ass on out the house... that be a different story. I somehow don't see this being the case though.

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pixeljunkie · Jun 6, 2005

$hockwave said:
i am having some arguments with my roomate about this law about gaming consoles not being more than 299.99 when they first come out.
but i do not think i remember seeing a console come out for more than that since the saturn,unless it is not a gaming machice mainly but i do not think this is true because the advancement of current consoles.

so i know that the xbox 360 is coming out at about 300 dollars but the ps3 is looking to be the first realesed blu-ray format in the us so i am looking towards a higher price point but that is my conclusion.any help for this discussion as i do not think this is true.

retarded

+1

We determine what they cost, based on what we were willing to pay in the past. Plus, I remember a lot of TG16 games being $70 when they came out. Plus some SNES RPG's were $70+. Nothing new.

StaticX · Jun 6, 2005

I work for EB games and the Xbox360 on our preorder page is at $499.99
and the games at $59.99.

jro · Jun 6, 2005

StaticX said:
I work for EB games and the Xbox360 on our preorder page is at $499.99
and the games at $59.99.

Which means roughly nothing definitive at all. I absolutely guarantee that the XB360 WILL NOT cost $499, neither will the PS3.

StaticX · Jun 6, 2005

jro said:
Which means roughly nothing definitive at all. I absolutely guarantee that the XB360 WILL NOT cost $499, neither will the PS3.

proof?

pixeljunkie · Jun 6, 2005

StaticX said:
proof?

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8444/Analyst-Xbox-360-to-Retail-for-299-Microsoft-to-Lose-75-per-Console/

No "proof" until it hits shelves...but looks likely to hit at the $299 pricepoint.

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