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LOTR HD vs DVD
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This is nuts, they gave the entire Two Towers movie a blue tint to reduce the grainy feel. They've also robbed me of $80 per box set and $25 per regular edition...
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There is no vehicle in place today, other than digital cable/satelite to get you the HD LotR. DVD won't handle the amount of data required.
No one was twisting your arm to get you to buy the LEs.
Blue Ray/HD DVD will give you the HD LotR whenever the formats are released.
No one was twisting your arm to get you to buy the LEs.
Blue Ray/HD DVD will give you the HD LotR whenever the formats are released.
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How do you see Anime going over to HD? I mean for older shows their is not much they can do and it will probably look like a regular DVD's as the source is crappy TV quality anyways. ADV was to come out with some WM9 HD disc this year but cancelled the releases. I was excited to see the quality difference between the two, but was disappointed with the cancelation.
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For Anime, it depends on the show.
On some series, like Ghost in the Shell: SAC there are already HD source materials as it was originally aired on Japanese TV in HD. There are a few other shows like this, such as Godannar.
On older series, I think it depends on the source material. If it's a movie, it is possible they could do an HD version, depending on the film used and all that. As far as TV Anime, I don't believe there is a way to create an HD source from a non HD master. Not sure exactly how HD works.
Even if they could create HD sources from standard, I don't think many shows would get that treatment. I mean, they'd have to go through a lot of bullshit for what I think would likely be little gain.
ADV canceled it, but never really said why. My guess is that it probably wasn't that much of a difference over the regular versions, or not enough to justify doing HD versions. A lot of people complained about the HD version they were using, that being Windows Media, as it's full of copy protection BS, along with region protection crap, meaning someone outside the US wanting it, wouldn't be able to play it.
On some series, like Ghost in the Shell: SAC there are already HD source materials as it was originally aired on Japanese TV in HD. There are a few other shows like this, such as Godannar.
On older series, I think it depends on the source material. If it's a movie, it is possible they could do an HD version, depending on the film used and all that. As far as TV Anime, I don't believe there is a way to create an HD source from a non HD master. Not sure exactly how HD works.
Even if they could create HD sources from standard, I don't think many shows would get that treatment. I mean, they'd have to go through a lot of bullshit for what I think would likely be little gain.
ADV canceled it, but never really said why. My guess is that it probably wasn't that much of a difference over the regular versions, or not enough to justify doing HD versions. A lot of people complained about the HD version they were using, that being Windows Media, as it's full of copy protection BS, along with region protection crap, meaning someone outside the US wanting it, wouldn't be able to play it.
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Lastblade said:
lolz
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What's so funny about using PS3 as a Blu-ray player? The problem with the format war (for HD DVDs) is going to suck, potentially having to buy 2 DVD players. But if I can use my PS3 as a Blu-ray, then all I need is a HD-DVD player to watch anything.
But then again, format war sucks for the consumer.
But then again, format war sucks for the consumer.
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Companies have already shown multiformat players. It may not be as bad as people think.
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An HD-DVD format should of been released to the market back in 2004.
There's plenty of demand for it.
I wish this homosexual format war would just end already, so I could get my movies on a real HD medium as opposed to bullshit like HD-VHS and the few and far between WM9 disks.
It's just kind of sad at this point.
There's plenty of demand for it.
I wish this homosexual format war would just end already, so I could get my movies on a real HD medium as opposed to bullshit like HD-VHS and the few and far between WM9 disks.
It's just kind of sad at this point.
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Where the fuck do you buy DVDs? You got scammed.gamejunkie said:
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The Drizzle said:
That would be the special editions with book ends. \\o
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Nesagwa said:
First, the differences are obvious to those with eyes, not just in fine detail, but color saturation and color depth.
Second, the HD screen caps were grabbed from either a cable or satellite broadcast, most of which are bit-starved and overcompressed.
HD-DVD and BluRay will both be 1080p native and have higher bitrates than cable, satellite, and over-the-air HD broadcasts. The peak bitrate of BluRay is something like 54Mbps. That's almost three times the broadcast standard.
Download the 720p and 1080p WMV clips from Microsoft's site for a taste of what true hi-res prerecorded progressive video is going to look like.
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slerch666 said:I paid $50 each shipped...
You really did get raped.
the first was book ends, the second was Gollum and the last was... that castle whose name I've forgotten. They weren't all book ends.
Do you want a high five? I fucking bought them at Best Buy.
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If you have a credit card, just use the Internet. It's rare that Best Buy would have a better price than somewhere on the Internet, and usually the only time they do is on release day.gamejunkie said:
Best place to go when looking for DVDs online is DVD Price Search
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i have watched a hand full of movies from my HD cable.
the ones i have a dvd for i would get it to the same spot in the HD movie.
it is one of those things you dont notice till you have to go back.
after watching a HD movie then going back to dvd the dvd looks washed out and blurry.
for me i like the hd difference.
but to the average person they really will not see the difference. it is not that great they will have to run out and buy a new movie player.
any person that is not legally blind could see the difference between VHS and DVD.
it is just not the same with this next format war.
the main factor is if you have an HD tv/display. most people still dont have one.
i also think you need a bigger HD tv to really benefit from the hd format.
of the people that have HD tvs how many have a 50+ inch tv?
hell a dvd to divx rip of a any movie down to 128MB looks great on my 2" smart phone screen.
the ones i have a dvd for i would get it to the same spot in the HD movie.
it is one of those things you dont notice till you have to go back.
after watching a HD movie then going back to dvd the dvd looks washed out and blurry.
for me i like the hd difference.
but to the average person they really will not see the difference. it is not that great they will have to run out and buy a new movie player.
any person that is not legally blind could see the difference between VHS and DVD.
it is just not the same with this next format war.
the main factor is if you have an HD tv/display. most people still dont have one.
i also think you need a bigger HD tv to really benefit from the hd format.
of the people that have HD tvs how many have a 50+ inch tv?
hell a dvd to divx rip of a any movie down to 128MB looks great on my 2" smart phone screen.
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I watched The Simpsons: Season Four last night on dvd... Has anyone else noticed the HORRIBLE compression quality they used? I mean damn even after the image was squeezed to 4:3, which would translate to something like 30", I could see digital artifacts. There is no way I'm buying season five if they continue to make shitty videos like this...
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I don't buy the Simpsons, but my guess is that when they sent it through the authoring process, they likely left the "live action" settings on the machines. Live action at lower bit rates tends to look fine. Animation, with it's solid colors and so on looks like ass when compressed at the variable bit rates that live action uses. For animation, going for a 7-9 variable bit rate gives better results.
How many eps are on a disc? I wonder if they were trying to cram too much on the disc or if they just suck at DVD authoring.
How many eps are on a disc? I wonder if they were trying to cram too much on the disc or if they just suck at DVD authoring.
Nesagwa said:
You would be surprised how many people would see the difference in the two pictures. Imagine that you paid $7000 for a TV and the best that you could see is 480P which is not HD by any means. People get very upset because they will pay high prices for a TV that they saw at a local electronics store playing 1080i and when they get it home it looks like shit. They even try a DVD it and it looks like shit. They even go out and buy a DVD player that is suppose to up convert the signals to 1080i for them but guess what? You got it! It looks like SHIT.
I deal with this every day. If you want HD, then be ready to only look at broadcast HD for now. Don't bother with up converters and crap like that. They never work the way you want them to. Wait for Blu-Ray or don't bitch when your DVD looks "blurry"
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slerch666 said:
It has 6 episodes per disc, and every episode has an optional commentary track. If they used a dual layer disc it should be fine...
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Yeah... that definitely wouldn't fill the disc, unless they were using DTS or some similarly less compressed audio format, which I know they aren't.gamejunkie said:
Does your player have the ability to show bit rates while it's playing a DVD? I'm guessing it's probably sitting in the 4.5-7 range, which doesn't look that hot with animated films/shows/whatever.
Say 23 minutes an episode, or 138 minutes. On a dual layer DVD, with a audio sampling rate of 224 kbit/s, they should be able to attain a CBR of ~7.8. If they did variable bit rate, they'd easily be able to have the disc sitting in the 7.5-9 bit range. There is really no excuse for shitting a disc out like that.