Kids and guns : Classic responce

Baseley09 · Jun 3, 2005

Marine Corps General Reinwald was interviewed on the
radio the other day and you have to read his reply to
the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and
children. Regardless of how you feel about gun laws
you gotta love this!!!!

It is a portion of National Public Radio (NPR) interview
between a female broadcaster and US Marine Corps
General Reinwald who was sponsoring a Boy Scout Troop
he brought to his military base.

FEMALE REPORTER: So, General Reinwald, what things are
you going to teach these young boys while they're
visiting your base?

GENERAL REINWALD: We're going to teach them climbing,
canoeing, and shooting.

FEMALE REPORTER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible,
isn't it?

GENERAL REINWALD: Not at all, they'll be properly
supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE REPORTER: Don't you admit that this is a
terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL REINWALD: No. We are very safety conscious and
will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before
they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE REPORTER: But you're equipping them to become
violent killers.

GENERAL REINWALD: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a
prostitute,but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

Mark of the Wolves · Jun 3, 2005

He fucking owned her. :kekeke:

El Maricon Loco · Jun 3, 2005

Fuck yes, smack that bitch down

Mike Shagohod · Jun 3, 2005

Baseley09 said:
FEMALE REPORTER: Don't you admit that this is a
terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL REINWALD: No. We are very safety conscious and
will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before
they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE REPORTER: But you're equipping them to become
violent killers.

GENERAL REINWALD: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a
prostitute,but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

HOO RAH!

Magnaflux · Jun 3, 2005

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

6 years old.

http://www.snopes.com/military/reinwald.htm

Claim: Questioned about the wisdom of teaching Boy Scouts to use firearms, a US General points out the difference between being equipped to do something and doing it.

Status: False.

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Origins: As great a tale as this is, it's pure fabrication. It began life in 1999, purportedly about an "LTG Reinwald" of the US Army. In 2001 it reappeared, this time attributed to "Marine Corps General Reinwald."

The U.S. Army denies that there is a Lieutenant General Reinwald and chalks the whole thing up as a hoax. (Which is as logic dictated all along; if an armed forces spokesperson ever gave voice to a sexist remark likening a female interviewer to a prostitute, that officer would soon be called upon to make a very public apology as well as face charges within ranks for conduct unbecoming.)

National Public Radio had this to say about the matter:

We are aware of an erroneous story posted on the Free Republic Website, and possibly elsewhere, which mentions a supposed interview between an unnamed NPR reporter and a U.S Army Lieutenant General Reinwald. The story is false — the dialogue mentioned was not an NPR interview, and it never aired on any NPR program.

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Btw, Marines don't say hoo-ah. That's Army.

shirt · Jun 3, 2005

Ely13 said:
6 years old.

http://www.snopes.com/military/reinwald.htm

Claim: Questioned about the wisdom of teaching Boy Scouts to use firearms, a US General points out the difference between being equipped to do something and doing it.

Status: False.

-----

Btw, Marines don't say hoo-ah. That's Army.

You're right, they say hoo-rah. Haven't you ever seen Mail Call?

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

shirt said:
You're right, they say hoo-rah. Haven't you ever seen Mail Call?

*Sigh* You are very, very wrong.

Chances are the History Channel might've had GySgt Ermey use 'hooah' to make things a bit more universal for national television. You would not catch a Marine dead saying 'hooah', and most of my Enlisted Marine friends have observed 'that sounds really pussy'.

EDIT: Sorry, might've misread your post. Thought you meant hoorah==hooah instead of oorah. Easy to mix-up over text, I suppose :emb:

Nesagwa · Jun 3, 2005

Ely13 said:
*Sigh* You are very, very wrong.

Chances are the History Channel might've had GySgt Ermey use 'hooah' to make things a bit more universal for national television. You would not catch a Marine dead saying 'hooah', and most of my Enlisted Marine friends have observed 'that sounds really pussy'.

Semper Fi sounds pussy if you ask me :emb:

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

http://www.montney.com/marine/oorah.htm

Semper Fi isn't a warcry. It's a way of life.

shirt · Jun 3, 2005

Ely13 said:
*Sigh* You are very, very wrong.

Chances are the History Channel might've had GySgt Ermey use 'hooah' to make things a bit more universal for national television. You would not catch a Marine dead saying 'hooah', and most of my Enlisted Marine friends have observed 'that sounds really pussy'.

EDIT: Sorry, might've misread your post. Thought you meant hoorah==hooah instead of oorah. Easy to mix-up over text, I suppose

I definitely know the Army says hooah.

If there's a big difference between oo-rah and hoo-rah, that I wasn't aware of.

Lagduf · Jun 3, 2005

LOL

Even if that was real, whats the big deal. The boy scouts already offer Rifle Shooting and Shotgun shooting merit badges. At the scout camp i went to as a kid we had a night where you could go to a mountain man style competition and learn to shoot black powder rifles.

evil wasabi · Jun 3, 2005

regardless, I've been shooting since I was 6. It's a way of life.

Why not tell Japanese people to stop eating sushi, promoting hepatitus?

I mean, the social risks of giving someone a disease is a lot higher than shooting them dead. It's why we switched to non-lethal rounds on the battle field - it costs a hell of a lot more to the enemy to hospitalize a wounded soldier than deal with a dead one. Guns kill, but poor health choices cost us all a lot more.

norton9478 · Jun 3, 2005

Lagduf said:
LOL

Even if that was real, whats the big deal. The boy scouts already offer Rifle Shooting and Shotgun shooting merit badges. At the scout camp i went to as a kid we had a night where you could go to a mountain man style competition and learn to shoot black powder rifles.

Yeah I had a good time getting my rifle merrit badge. I Used to shoot targets at camp. Boy scout camp was the only place I have ever shot a firearm. Lots of fun. I remember one time some guy from the FBI came and gave a demonstration at camp. Had all sorts of Uzi Type shit. It was crazy.

But The interview does not sound tipical of NPR. Not that they don't have a definite anti wanton gunn access VIbe. THeir interviews are usually fair.

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

Hmm. I think I've had anti-gun legislation shoved down my throat in nearly every introductory liberal arts class I've taken out here (the most recent was Rhetoric for a reading & comprehension requirement). They've grown more clever about it, though. 'Here is an essay explaining why possessing a firearm while mugged is safer than going along with your assailant. Now write a 5 page paper on why the author is wrong'. At least they bother showing you the other side's argument now.

And for folks who haven't bothered reading the thread, this interview never happened. I'd say something pithy about not believing everything you read on the internet, but every false news report post here suckers at least a dozen people.

Mike Shagohod · Jun 3, 2005

Actually all of my father's NAM buddies who are all non-active (no such thing as a "Ex" Marine, you're IN the Army you ARE a Marine) Marines have always used the banter OOH-RAH and when they were skating the line of being insubordinate they'd say it HOO-RAAAH drawn out slowly to emphasize their displeasure or disagreeance with order given from a superior but then would carry out the mission anyhow. The fact that I wrote "Hoo Rah" was a mistake it should of been "Ooh-Rah!".

The Army basically stole this unofficial slang that's origin became widespread in the Marines during the Korean War, and altered the way it's said to (pronounced here) "Whooo-Ah". Which is a constant state of rivalry between Jar Heads and Grunts and I've listened to grown men from the different branches get into a OOH-RAH Vs. WHOOO-AH showdown that later escalated into a fist fight. It's true that the Marines don't much use it much these days, but anyone who's a BSA (and there are more than a few in today's Marine Corps) do use the slang from time to time. Hence why R. Lee Ermy does indeed use the term on Mail Call. It's like saying "Fuckin A!" about something, anything, everything.

It's too bad that report was fake, and I should've thought better of if due to the whole "Conduct Unbecoming" clause. I guess I wanted to believe a Leatherneck put some bleeding heart liberal reporter a new ass is all.

MERCENARY X99

soopafamicom · Jun 3, 2005

.

I first heard that joke about 20 years ago.

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

Well, there's LtGen Mattis' comments, though it wasn't directly to a journalist:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/03/general.shoot/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A three-star Marine general who said it was "fun to shoot some people" should have chosen his words more carefully, the Marine Corps commandant said Thursday.

Lt. Gen. James Mattis, who commanded Marine expeditions in Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday during a panel discussion in San Diego, California.

"Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot," Mattis said, prompting laughter from some military members in the audience. "It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Mattis is freakin awesome.

Didn't know that Marines said 'Hoo-ah' when they're getting insubordinate, though it's something I'd expect a Marine to do. Last Marine SSgt I spoke to, after finishing clearing things with him, he said 'Good to go!' then yelled an 'OORAH!' at the top of his lungs around a bunch of Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard guys. :buttrock:

I was surprised at first, but I should've expected it

Didn't hear anything nearly that moto from the other services, and we got some stares.

bokmeow · Jun 3, 2005

Mercenary X99 said:
It's too bad that report was fake, and I should've thought better of if due to the whole "Conduct Unbecoming" clause. I guess I wanted to believe a Leatherneck put some bleeding heart liberal reporter a new ass is all.

MERCENARY X99

I don't understand the hate NPR gets from the red states. They provide one of the most balanced viewpoint you will find on the left of the radio dial (no pun intended) and they have never openly supported any political party in the United States.

In fact, when there are federal and state policies that affect the manufacturing, agricultural, and textile sectors, the red states get so much sympathetic coverage.

I used to think Mercenary X99 was an independent rebel without a cause, but now I realize he's just another individual in the uneducated masses who enjoy slinging slinging rotten eggs and tomatoes at targets the conservatives love to hate.

Major loss of respect from me.

Magnaflux · Jun 3, 2005

bokmeow said:
I don't understand the hate NPR gets from the red states. They provide one of the most balanced viewpoint you will find on the left of the radio dial (no pun intended) and they have never openly supported any political party in the United States.

In fact, when there are federal and state policies that affect the manufacturing, agricultural, and textile sectors, the red states get so much sympathetic coverage.

I used to think Mercenary X99 was an independent rebel without a cause, but now I realize he's just another individual in the uneducated masses who enjoy slinging slinging rotten eggs and tomatoes at targets the conservatives love to hate.

Major loss of respect from me.

I've never heard NPR slant one way or the other politically. I enjoy them immensly as they're perhaps the least biased news media anywhere.

In addition, NPR will report on things that many other places will never dare to.

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

bokmeow said:
I don't understand the hate NPR gets from the red states. They provide one of the most balanced viewpoint you will find on the left of the radio dial (no pun intended) and they have never openly supported any political party in the United States.

You are out of your mind. I've been listening to NPR for 13-14 years, even while I was a diehard liberal, and I still thought it was pretty skewed. Did you hear the rhetoric they were spewing right before the presidential elections? They were even more anti-Bush than the local alternative/rock stations. The eco/environmental nuts they put on at midnight (as well as their broadcasts from local political speaking groups) are hilarious, if only to listen to in a bemused way.

I get most of my news and analysis from the WSJ and the Economist nowadays. On occasion I'll read the NYT and the Spectator, but I generally prefer to read the news and make up my own mind unless it's an issue I don't know much about.

IMTheWalrus · Jun 3, 2005

NPR isn't as blatantly liberal as people think. It's certainly not like Rush Limbaugh and the rest of talk radio or Fox news. I like NPR cause they will actually have people from both sides talk and they give equal time, unlike fox news or limbaugh.

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

Meh, Hugh Hewitt gives about as much lip-service to the other side as NPR does. Anyway, discussing politics over the internet is usually not a very productive use of time. I don't like any of them.

bokmeow · Jun 3, 2005

Ely13 said:
You are out of your mind. I've been listening to NPR for 13-14 years, even while I was a diehard liberal, and I still thought it was pretty skewed. Did you hear the rhetoric they were spewing right before the presidential elections? They were even more anti-Bush than the local alternative/rock stations. The eco/environmental nuts they put on at midnight (as well as their broadcasts from local political speaking groups) are hilarious, if only to listen to in a bemused way.

I get most of my news and analysis from the WSJ and the Economist nowadays. On occasion I'll read the NYT and the Spectator, but I generally prefer to read the news and make up my own mind unless it's an issue I don't know much about.

You must listen to NPR: Too Hot for Radio or something, because I've not heard this 'Anti-Bush rhetoric' you're talking about before the presidential elections.

When you pick and choose your news sources, you already made up your own mind, you are not reading the news to make up your own mind.

Ely13 · Jun 3, 2005

bokmeow said:
When you pick and choose your news sources, you already made up your own mind, you are not reading the news to make up your own mind.

Or maybe I just don't like the customarily slanted rhetoric coming out of some media outlets like the National Review or the SF Chronicle? Heaven forbid.

Don't try and say something profound if there's gaping holes in your logic.

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