galvatron said:
You missed where he said:
"Or am I better off just using Shinkuu Hadoken? I would use Shin Shoryuken, but I find it difficult to land." I'm answering yes to that question and assuming that if shin shoryuken isn't landing then maybe denjin isn't for him.
Ah, but he doesn't know Denjin setups to begin with. I think his last line was a bit rhetorical. Everybody would probably recommend SA I and II over III, especially for starting out. However, that's not to say anything bad about SA III. It's the thinking man's SA, and the one that yeilds the most damage potential.
galvatron said:
Everyone can compete since everyone can parry. Not to mention the element of surprise which comes from being an expert using "garbage" characters or supers...still, it's a lot more work to play good Q than it is to play a good ken (in my experience), which is part of why those guys you mentioned are so well known. They get respect for paving their own way and not taking the "easy way" by picking someone else.
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This is right and wrong at the same time. With the top three tiers in this game, one becomes extremely used to how the character plays, and thus reaction to their game plan speeds up. In my overall experience, the one character that gives me the most trouble in this game is Twelve. 1 - I don't play excellent Twelve players that often, and 2 - when I do, I never begin to draw out a game plan to deal with what he throws at me. It's a nightmare playing that bastard, at least for me.
When you reach a certain level of playing, it really doesn't matter who you pick in this game. I honestly don't think it takes more work playing a good Q than it does playing a good Ken. Work is work, and while you can
scrub easier with Ken, when you reach a certain level of playing stuff like that just doesn't matter. Any character can win.
galvatron said:
Also, I'm not saying your phrase doesn't apply, but I am saying that it's true and not all that useful in giving advice. If you can pick winning lottery numbers then you should buy a ticket, but for millions of people buying a ticket is throwing money away. Since I've never seen him play (thus don't know what works for him) I just have to play the odds when giving advice and odds are that he's not some denjin prodigy and he should try what works for most people.
You don't start out being a prodigy of anything. Like I said above, it's a thinking man's SA. This is something he'll have to spend a lot of time developing and seeing what works best and what doesn't. This is why my phrase still applies, even in the midst of this drawn-out conversation.
galvatron said:
Honestly, I've got no problem with you, so if this came off that way it's unintentional. I actually want to get in on this 3s / cvs2 action you've got going. Haven't played either game seriously in a long time...
Hey man, no beef at all. I enjoy a good conversation, even if people don't see eye to eye. All you can do is state your stance on the situation, right? I'm still a Third Strike newbie, but I understand the mechanics of the game very well (just have poor execution) and fighting game theory in general. My problem is getting a good stick to play on XBL. I'd LOVE to get something like the Tekken 5 Namco stick to play on there. My execution jumps sky high compared to me using the big duke xbox controller online
