MVS board pics

Superfamifreak · May 20, 2005

Is there anybody out there than help me restore the following games to MVS:

Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown 2
Samurai Shodown 3
Fatal Fury Special
Fatal Fury 3
World Heroes 2
World Heroes 2 Jet

The reason I ask is because I have chips left over from conversions and want to restore the carts to MVS so then at least nothing is wasted. I know I'll probably get an ear bashing but at least these chipsets will be given a new lease of life.

So if anyone has 'restored' MVS carts of the games listed above is there any chance I can have pics?

Anyway, here are the pics of the boards I have:

CHAR boards:

PROG boards:

stuffmonger · May 20, 2005

Ive got a couple of those I couls get pics of for you...
Here's the upper board of world heroes 2...

The lower board...

and I also have fatal fury special... but since I've got a minty fresh cart that hasn't been opened (and I don't want to break the seals) I can only get you the lower board pic...

I hope I helped to revive some old rockin' games to their former splendor.

Superfamifreak · May 20, 2005

Damn! Have none of those MVS boards that match. I'll edit my above post to include the boards I do have.

dogtoy · May 21, 2005

The boards don't have to be an exact match. If they are close, they can be made to work. My metal slug (from ebay) cart is a bootleg, and it's on a PROGGSC. Anyway, there are more v roms in metal slug than there are slots on a PROGGSC so chips 2 and 4 are stacked sort like a piggy backed universe bios. I've never tried such wizardry but if you care to map the original pcb and compare it to the target pcb you can make it work. People squeeze larger chips than boards were designed for, all kinds of stuff. As long you can fit the roms in and make sure they get addressed properly, the pcb is basically just a way to connect the roms to the cart slot in a logical manner anyway.

cheers,
-DT

dogtoy · May 21, 2005

Superfamifreak said:
Damn! Have none of those MVS boards that match. I'll edit my above post to include the boards I do have.

Fatal Fury Special is on PROGGSC and CHA256 which you included pics of, at least if your FFS chips include an EP1 (never seen one personally, but there is a rom set of FFS that doesn't include ep1, I assume it may use a different PROG board maybe one without slots for EP1 and EP2?). So you should be able to put FFS into these. I'm not sure about jumper settings, I am not home w/ my FFS cart right now.

Why do you have more prog boards than cha boards? :smirk:

cheers again,
-DT

*edit*- Stuffmonger, are the chips on your world heroes 2 prog boards socketed?

stuffmonger · May 21, 2005

dogtoy said:
Stuffmonger, are the chips on your world heroes 2 prog boards socketed?

yes... they do appear to be so... I hope that's not a bad thing...

dogtoy · May 21, 2005

stuffmonger said:
yes... they do appear to be so... I hope that's not a bad thing...

Just wondering, never seen anything like that. They do look like legit chips, do the #'s match the master list? I wonder why someone would do that? reminds me of a post some guy made awhile back wanting to make a flash cart for the neo(romming bastards :angry:

lol). But you could put in sockets, wire all the jumpers to a dip switch block and play several games on one board just by swapping chips and flipping some switches.

I just looked in my world heroes 2 Jet, because superfamifreak asked about it, it's a PROGGSC and a CHA256. On proggsc: J1, J9, J13 are on. also R1, R2, and R4 are on. All other J and R are off. On cha256: J2, J3, J9, J10, J11, and J12 are on. All other J and all R are off.

If you can wait until sunday night I can tell you the jumper settings for FFS and double check that it is a cha256 and not something else entirely. If you're gonna go through the trouble, i'd vote for FFS over WH2, especially if you only have 1 proggsc, but hey that's entirely up to you

cheers,
-DT

stuffmonger · May 21, 2005

dogtoy said:
Just wondering, never seen anything like that. They do look like legit chips, do the #'s match the master list? I wonder why someone would do that? reminds me of a post some guy made awhile back wanting to make a flash cart for the neo(romming bastards lol). But you could put in sockets, wire all the jumpers to a dip switch block and play several games on one board just by swapping chips and flipping some switches.

I've just inspected my wh2 cart som more... and... shit... this may be a boot... these socketted chips are definatelly a home job... I can see the discollered flux on the solder on the other side, and the workmanship on the sockets is pretty bad... (they didn't use sockets of the correct size... they cut some in half or whatnot to fit them in) Also... each of the chips is labeled wh 2 in permanent marker, and the numbers 1, 2, and 3 are written on the board itself (I assume for referrence on where to put the chips)... ugh... looking at this makes me sad... such poor worksmanship... old solder residue on the pcb, cold solder joints, burns on nearly every contact... sheesh... they coul've at least made it look nice... Where is the master list btw so I can double check the chips?

Superfamifreak · May 21, 2005

The other problem is the amount of LS chips on the boards. As you can see from the pics, I have 3 different PROGBK1 boards, all with different amounts of the LS chips.

ttooddddyy · May 21, 2005

Superfamifreak said:
Is there anybody out there than help me restore the following games to MVS:

Samurai Shodown
Samurai Shodown 2
Samurai Shodown 3
Fatal Fury Special
Fatal Fury 3
World Heroes 2
World Heroes 2 Jet

The reason I ask is because I have chips left over from conversions and want to restore the carts to MVS so then at least nothing is wasted. I know I'll probably get an ear bashing but at least these chipsets will be given a new lease of life.

So if anyone has 'restored' MVS carts of the games listed above is there any chance I can have pics?

Anyway, here are the pics of the boards I have:

CHAR boards:

PROG boards:

I dont really understand the question, you are looking for the mask roms to put in these cart boards ? How do pictures of the boards help ?? Am I missing something here.

Edit: or do you mean you intend to program some eproms and insert into these cart boards and want to know jumper settings for conversion ? I just dont get the, Im "left with chips " part of the story.

Anyway, I think this forum is the wrong place to ask.

Superfamifreak · May 21, 2005

ttooddddyy said:
I dont really understand the question, you are looking for the mask roms to put in these cart boards ? How do pictures of the boards help ?? Am I missing something here.

I have the original chips, I just want to know which boards are suitable to restore each game.

ttooddddyy · May 21, 2005

stuffmonger said:
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I hope I helped to revive some old rockin' games to their former splendor.

I only hope that the unwitting guy who ends up buying it at the end of the day, as an "original copy" is as enthusiastic as you seem to be.

If the technical questions about conversions have to be asked around here, its likely to be a bodged job anyway.

Superfamifreak · May 21, 2005

I have no intentions of selling them as 'original' copies, I just don't want to bin all the chips, boards & cart shells when someone could have some fun out of them. Besides, I'm not exactly gonna get much for those carts am I?

ttooddddyy · May 21, 2005

It has nothing to do with what they are worth, and i dont feel like an argument, but thanks all the same.

J0e Musashi · May 21, 2005

I've come across a few of these in my time and there aint nowt wrong in em whatsoever. They play fine. Think of them like a reverse conversion. As long as they are advertised as that, which I have no doubt Andy will do then where is the problem? He needs some help so why can't he ask for it?

ttooddddyy · May 21, 2005

The problem lies with the "implied charter" of this forum. If the forum is all for supporting cart conversions and emulation, thats fine by me. I am under the understanding that it is not. Do we have a moderator to clarify the situation ?

BTW Joe, Im not doubting Andys integrity here.

J0e Musashi · May 21, 2005

ttooddddyy said:
BTW Joe, Im not doubting Andys integrity here.

Hey man, you know you don't have to justify yourself to me. You know I'd never argue with you. I do see your point, but it's Andy. I don't beleive anything bad will come of this. Site rules seem a little slack at the best of times. We could let this one ride.

Lime2K · May 21, 2005

stuffmonger said:
I've just inspected my wh2 cart som more... and... shit... this may be a boot... these socketted chips are definatelly a home job... I can see the discollered flux on the solder on the other side, and the workmanship on the sockets is pretty bad... (they didn't use sockets of the correct size... they cut some in half or whatnot to fit them in) Also... each of the chips is labeled wh 2 in permanent marker, and the numbers 1, 2, and 3 are written on the board itself (I assume for referrence on where to put the chips)... ugh... looking at this makes me sad... such poor worksmanship... old solder residue on the pcb, cold solder joints, burns on nearly every contact... sheesh... they coul've at least made it look nice... Where is the master list btw so I can double check the chips?

it looks like a really badly done reverse conversion -- the chips in the sockets look legit. Whoever did the conversion was an extremely lazy bastard, though (didn't even bother to find the correct sockets for roms, too hot soldering iron, etc.

dogtoy · May 21, 2005

Superfamifreak said:
The other problem is the amount of LS chips on the boards. As you can see from the pics, I have 3 different PROGBK1 boards, all with different amounts of the LS chips.

Yes, to put FFS on that PROGGSC you would need to get that LS08 slot filled up.

-DT

ttooddddyy · May 21, 2005

edit-delete

stuffmonger · May 21, 2005

Lime2K said:
it looks like a really badly done reverse conversion -- the chips in the sockets look legit. Whoever did the conversion was an extremely lazy bastard, though (didn't even bother to find the correct sockets for roms, too hot soldering iron, etc.

Well... I guess it's a good thing that it's probably not a boot... but... I may just have to re-do these sockets... they're ugly... and when i notice things I get compulsive...

Superfamifreak · May 21, 2005

stuffmonger said:
Well... I guess it's a good thing that it's probably not a boot... but... I may just have to re-do these sockets... they're ugly... and when i notice things I get compulsive...

If that is the case it should be an easy job to fix. But why bother with sockets if you are simply replacing chips?

stuffmonger · May 21, 2005

Superfamifreak said:
If that is the case it should be an easy job to fix. But why bother with sockets if you are simply replacing chips?

maybe the wanted boards to test with? I dunno...

dogtoy · May 21, 2005

Looked in WH2 Jet again, you'll need an LS08 for that one PROGGSC too. The CHA256 in your pic will match LS chip wise, jumpers will have to be changed.

If you can find some real close up, high resolution pics of both sides of a CHA 42G-3 you should be able to add those LS chips to your CHA 42G-2 board then you add the third C chip slot (maybe add the traces and make a flat riser for the extra chips connected by some wires or figure out how to stack the chips, judging by how my metal slug had V chip 4 stacked on 2, the third chip could probably stack on 1 with some pins attached to the LS chips?). Then you could use your WH2 (not jet) chips with the modded CHA 42G-2. Sounds like a lot of work for a game that could be $7-10 on ebay. If your like me though, it's not the money it's figuring out how to do it that makes it worthwhile :buttrock:

cheers,
-DT

ttooddddyy · May 21, 2005

dogtoy said:
jumpers will have to be changed.

cheers,
-DT

which jumpers need to be changed

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