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do people really do this, is it safe? sounds about as stupid as boiling dreamcast discs.
jamma boards in the dishwasher
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Yes they do !!!! (normally as a last resort though !)
Obviously you DON'T use salt ... and you don't do it if you are in a hard water area!
You also must remove all forms of power (including backup batteries) and discharge any capacitors before you do it!
The board must be dried 100% ... normally using warm (not too hot!) air.
I normally dust boards with a small paint brush followed by isopronol alcohol (as pure as possible) with a soft toothpaste to "scrub" particularly bad areas.
BE CAREFUL WITH ISOPRONOL !!!!!! It is very flammable and ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES !!! It will penetrate your skin and enter your blood if you handle it direct !! If you drive after handling it with no protection you can be over the limit and be charged with drink driving !!!!
Iain
Obviously you DON'T use salt ... and you don't do it if you are in a hard water area!
You also must remove all forms of power (including backup batteries) and discharge any capacitors before you do it!
The board must be dried 100% ... normally using warm (not too hot!) air.
I normally dust boards with a small paint brush followed by isopronol alcohol (as pure as possible) with a soft toothpaste to "scrub" particularly bad areas.
BE CAREFUL WITH ISOPRONOL !!!!!! It is very flammable and ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES !!! It will penetrate your skin and enter your blood if you handle it direct !! If you drive after handling it with no protection you can be over the limit and be charged with drink driving !!!!
Iain
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DashK said:
Why would you boil a dreamcast disc?? Don't you know that when you boil vegetables most of the vitamins and minerals are left behind in the water. Only way to boil a dreamcast disc and still get the nutrition would be to make dreamcast disc soup. It would have to be a GD-rom though, because CD-r's just don't make a good soup, throw in some peas, potatoes, maybe a little ham or tofu, some hot sauce, salt and pepper to taste and BAM! Good soup...
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sven666
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depends on how lazy and careless you are i guess..
i wash my PCBs by hand, a nice warm soapy bath and a brush is all it takes
that way you can go easy on lables and stuff like that.
i would never put them in the dishwasher tho.. using isopropanol or similar stuff is really overkill, may be applied when you have something that wont come off with soapy water but thats very rare..
most electronic devices are really quite resistent to water as long as theyre 100% dry when you plug them in.
i wash my PCBs by hand, a nice warm soapy bath and a brush is all it takes
that way you can go easy on lables and stuff like that.i would never put them in the dishwasher tho.. using isopropanol or similar stuff is really overkill, may be applied when you have something that wont come off with soapy water but thats very rare..
most electronic devices are really quite resistent to water as long as theyre 100% dry when you plug them in.
You aren't supposed to use soap on PCB's though.
A dishwasher is actually a perfectly fine tool to use to wash PCB's. Just make sure there is no detergent/soap. You use hot water, and you can even use the steam dry option if your washer has it(hey, if it doesn't melt plastic it won't hurt your PCB).
I used to work at a PCB assembly plant, and they would use a large machine that was basically a dish washer. The boards would be submerged in a mix of water and Axarel32 cleaner, sprayed top and bottom with a pressureized mix of the cleaner, then rinsed with water, then dried using heat guns inside the machine(extremely hot).
The only exception is large aluminum electrolytic capacitors. Those aren't intended to be submerged, but those are easily replaced, and in a standard washer they may not get fully submerged.
I've washed a Sega Genesis motherboard in our washer at home just fine...looked brand new and it worked great.
Also at work, after boards are washed, you would sometimes have to install some parts manually, and after soldering them, we used isopropynol alchol as mentioned eariler.
A dishwasher is actually a perfectly fine tool to use to wash PCB's. Just make sure there is no detergent/soap. You use hot water, and you can even use the steam dry option if your washer has it(hey, if it doesn't melt plastic it won't hurt your PCB).
I used to work at a PCB assembly plant, and they would use a large machine that was basically a dish washer. The boards would be submerged in a mix of water and Axarel32 cleaner, sprayed top and bottom with a pressureized mix of the cleaner, then rinsed with water, then dried using heat guns inside the machine(extremely hot).
The only exception is large aluminum electrolytic capacitors. Those aren't intended to be submerged, but those are easily replaced, and in a standard washer they may not get fully submerged.
I've washed a Sega Genesis motherboard in our washer at home just fine...looked brand new and it worked great.
Also at work, after boards are washed, you would sometimes have to install some parts manually, and after soldering them, we used isopropynol alchol as mentioned eariler.