wher are all jap home cart collectors when you need them?

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<a href="http://www.neostore.com/detail.asp?ProductID=896" target="_blank">http://www.neostore.com/detail.asp?ProductID=896</a>

Way more rare than A LOT of your called rare jap home carts.
 

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What idiot would buy such a dreadful game such as Riding Hero for $175???!!!

...probably the same idiot who pays $15,000 for Kizuna Encounter :rolleyes:

The game isn't even mint... Shawn wants to wake up and smell what he's shovelling...
 

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What idiot would buy such a dreadful game such as Riding Hero for $175???!!!

...probably the same idiot who pays $15,000 for Kizuna Encounter :rolleyes:

The game isn't even mint... Shawn wants to wake up and smell what he's shovelling...
I don't agree once more.
Riding hero jap carton box went for $250 on ebay last time and surfaced really few times.

Tarma,your opinion is as wrong here as your belief about CRay and Dion owning authentic Kizuna.
 

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What idiot would buy such a dreadful game such as Riding Hero for $175???!!!

...probably the same idiot who pays $15,000 for Kizuna Encounter :rolleyes:

The game isn't even mint... Shawn wants to wake up and smell what he's shovelling...
I don't agree once more.
Riding hero jap carton box went for $250 on ebay last time and surfaced really few times.

Tarma,your opinion is as wrong here as your belief about CRay and Dion owning authentic Kizuna.
I believe you when you say it's rare, but it's still a piss poor game... I just don't understand the mentality of people who buy videogames and never play them.... it's like buying a video or DVD and never watching it... oh_no

And correction - I said I assumed Chris and Dion have the cart. You have no credible evidence to the contrary either. Sometimes your tactics at hypeing game availability and prices disgusts me... you really don't care that you're ruining Neo-Geo for those who want to buy to play - i.e the majority against a few close-knit small minded collectors with more money than sense. These people make me sick. very_ang
 

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I believe you when you say it's rare, but it's still a piss poor game... I just don't understand the mentality of people who buy videogames and never play them.... it's like buying a video or DVD and never watching it... oh_no

And correction - I said I assumed Chris and Dion have the cart. You have no credible evidence to the contrary either. Sometimes your tactics at hypeing game availability and prices disgusts me... you really don't care that you're ruining Neo-Geo for those who want to buy to play - i.e the majority against a few close-knit small minded collectors with more money than sense. These people make me sick. very_ang
That's the remix times two.

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I feel the exact same way Tarma. It is not right that some people jact prices to the moon. I must admit, that sometimes I charge a little more than what others think the game is worth but I usually go by what things go for on eBay. The other day I saw a Strikers 1945 Plus bare cart go for $175 shipped so I thought that $250 for a full kit wasn't bad. I guess the other members thought that I was wrong.

In any case, some prices for things are much higher than they need to be. Many people think the price guide is a joke. If I ever use the price guide, I pick the lowest price on it and I think that lowest price is actually what the game is worth. In some cases the price guide is too generous but that rarely happens. I mainly stick with the good old games because they are cheap and play well. buttrock
 

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And correction - I said I assumed Chris and Dion have the cart. You have no credible evidence to the contrary either. Sometimes your tactics at hypeing game availability and prices disgusts me... you really don't care that you're ruining Neo-Geo for those who want to buy to play - i.e the majority against a few close-knit small minded collectors with more money than sense. These people make me sick. very_ang
proven not owned.

Dion offered a pic of his KE, and it was mssing a certain piece of visual evidence on the face of the insert, which occured because he used the picture from Shawn's site, that had neo-geo.com written in yellow over it, thereby hiding the small little item in question. wink

So basically, to impress his friends, Dion tried to make a knockoff Euro KE, and got called on it. End of story.
 

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Riding hero jap carton box went for $250 on ebay last time and surfaced really few times.
How many bidders? My hunch is that $250 was just a bidding war as the market for carton box games is extremely thin. Moreover, the condition of the game is Excellent and many collectors only seek Near Mint/Mint items. The spred between Excellent and Mint for some rare Neo Geo titles can be hundreds of dollars.

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Riding hero jap carton box went for $250 on ebay last time and surfaced really few times.
How many bidders? My hunch is that $250 was just a bidding war as the market for carton box games is extremely thin. Moreover, the condition of the game is Excellent and many collectors only seek Near Mint/Mint items. The spred between Excellent and Mint for some rare Neo Geo titles can be hundreds of dollars.

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A very good point. I have a feeling that the Euro koF '96 I have will not sell that terribly quickly because of the spine. Yet the rest of the 'package' is mint and this is supposed to be the rarest of the English KoF releases. The reserve is well under price guide estimations yet I've had one bid....

Some games are just about worth their high asking prices, most are not. The damage has already been done for the most part, there's no need to make things worse... oh well... it's all opinions, and sadly at the end of the day if you want the game bad enough to play it, you have to put up and shut up.

Didn't have to be like though...
 

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and sadly at the end of the day if you want the game bad enough to play it, you have to put up and shut up.

Didn't have to be like though...
Well, you know, it all depends on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You say you've been into the neo for a long time - the high prices shouldn't make a dent in your attitude, and for a while, I didn't see them doing it.

But for a lot of kids that don't have the money to spend on the neo geo, or never got accustomed to the prices, the whole home cart scene is too outrageous for them.

And when you hang out with kids, you start to think like them...
 

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Riding hero jap carton box went for $250 on ebay last time and surfaced really few times.
How many bidders? My hunch is that $250 was just a bidding war as the market for carton box games is extremely thin. Moreover, the condition of the game is Excellent and many collectors only seek Near Mint/Mint items. The spred between Excellent and Mint for some rare Neo Geo titles can be hundreds of dollars.

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That actually was a bidwar.

How do I knw it?

Well, it was a bidwar of me agains Dr.NeoGeo (I think)! buttrock

And I lost. buttrock buttrock

After that, I got my 'excellent' copy of Riding Hero carton on eBay for $65. Some weeks later, that is, on eBay as well.

That's just how auctions goes, I guess. :p
 

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and sadly at the end of the day if you want the game bad enough to play it, you have to put up and shut up.

Didn't have to be like though...
Well, you know, it all depends on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You say you've been into the neo for a long time - the high prices shouldn't make a dent in your attitude, and for a while, I didn't see them doing it.

But for a lot of kids that don't have the money to spend on the neo geo, or never got accustomed to the prices, the whole home cart scene is too outrageous for them.

And when you hang out with kids, you start to think like them...
Just because the likes of you and I have benefitted from being around when the prices were 'normal' doesn't make the high prices right.

Generally the prices don't affect me. I'm not interested in 'rare' carton box games like Riding Hero and Super Spy and I don't buy the ludicrously valued English language homecarts. However, the collector mentality of treating homecarts like stamp collecting bothers me greatly as does price hyping/jacking. I cannot condone denying someone the pleasure of enjoying the experience a game offers because another person thinks it makes a great bookend.

But hey, if you don't give two fucks about people getting to play the games because some rich nerd gets a hard on staring at plastic, well that's your perogative.

Ironic really, seeing as you're 'gameplay moderator'.... hmmmmnn...
 

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After that, I got my 'excellent' copy of Riding Hero carton on eBay for $65. Some weeks later, that is, on eBay as well.
A far more indicative valuation of what the game is worth, rare or otherwise. Clear evidence that you are not fit to run the price guide Simone because your cock is too far up Shawn's ass. oh_no shame
 

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and sadly at the end of the day if you want the game bad enough to play it, you have to put up and shut up.

Didn't have to be like though...
Well, you know, it all depends on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You say you've been into the neo for a long time - the high prices shouldn't make a dent in your attitude, and for a while, I didn't see them doing it.

But for a lot of kids that don't have the money to spend on the neo geo, or never got accustomed to the prices, the whole home cart scene is too outrageous for them.

And when you hang out with kids, you start to think like them...
Just because the likes of you and I have benefitted from being around when the prices were 'normal' doesn't make the high prices right.

Generally the prices don't affect me. I'm not interested in 'rare' carton box games like Riding Hero and Super Spy and I don't buy the ludicrously valued English language homecarts. However, the collector mentality of treating homecarts like stamp collecting bothers me greatly as does price hyping/jacking. I cannot condone denying someone the pleasure of enjoying the experience a game offers because another person thinks it makes a great bookend.

But hey, if you don't give two fucks about people getting to play the games because some rich nerd gets a hard on staring at plastic, well that's your perogative.

Ironic really, seeing as you're 'gameplay moderator'.... hmmmmnn...
Let's not get cheeky.

There are many ways to play and I don't complain about any of them: MVS, CD, Emulator (I try not to). As far as gameplay goes, the homecarts are a non-issue now. They have transcended games into something you are ware of as collectibles.

You bought a $500 game because you know it's damn rare.

Some guy paid $400 for Super Spy carton box for the same reason.

Not because they want to use them...
 

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Tarma is correct. I only say this as someone who has bought $600 of carts of him in the last 2 weeks. All the carts are top end and great prices. Tarma walks the talk.
When he sells something it is always a fair price.
THere are too many self serving price jackers here, but simone (FTL)isnt one of em. I know simone is a great and fair trader.We did some good deals in the past
 

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I can't believe we are still on old arguments like they are videogames,prices are high...et cetera.

Read again Evilwasabi's post everyone.

We are speaking of collectible items,not videogame.

I see your point carlson:it was abidding war and condition does matter.
But my point was to mark the RARITY of carton box riding hero.

I see everytime Tarma and others selling overprices jap common carts and they can't even get how rare Riding hero carton box is.
Great find for a collector.

No offense but for sure Tarma's reasoning show his lack of experience with neo geo home carts.
 

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and sadly at the end of the day if you want the game bad enough to play it, you have to put up and shut up.

Didn't have to be like though...
Well, you know, it all depends on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You say you've been into the neo for a long time - the high prices shouldn't make a dent in your attitude, and for a while, I didn't see them doing it.

But for a lot of kids that don't have the money to spend on the neo geo, or never got accustomed to the prices, the whole home cart scene is too outrageous for them.

And when you hang out with kids, you start to think like them...
Just because the likes of you and I have benefitted from being around when the prices were 'normal' doesn't make the high prices right.

Generally the prices don't affect me. I'm not interested in 'rare' carton box games like Riding Hero and Super Spy and I don't buy the ludicrously valued English language homecarts. However, the collector mentality of treating homecarts like stamp collecting bothers me greatly as does price hyping/jacking. I cannot condone denying someone the pleasure of enjoying the experience a game offers because another person thinks it makes a great bookend.

But hey, if you don't give two fucks about people getting to play the games because some rich nerd gets a hard on staring at plastic, well that's your perogative.

Ironic really, seeing as you're 'gameplay moderator'.... hmmmmnn...
Let's not get cheeky.

There are many ways to play and I don't complain about any of them: MVS, CD, Emulator (I try not to). As far as gameplay goes, the homecarts are a non-issue now. They have transcended games into something you are ware of as collectibles.

You bought a $500 game because you know it's damn rare.

Some guy paid $400 for Super Spy carton box for the same reason.

Not because they want to use them...
But let's put it in perspective shall we?

I paid $200 over the original 1996 retail price for what is now a rare game. Rare in two senses:

One - it does not appear for sale very often, meaning that those who have copies are keeping them or that the production run was low.

Two - a lot of copies that do appear of this title have sunfaded inserts, which in turn devalues the game and takes mint copies to a premium.

Personally I think I got a bargain at $500 Charlie, and I'd never accuse you of trying to overprice stuff. Also the game is worth it because I, personally, think it's a cracking game and the best in the series. I play and I play it a lot and it's still in the minty condition you sent it in.
There's people out there who pay this kind of money and NEVER play it... the mind boggles...

@ Simone - wtf? Ok, you really just proved you're on another planet. I'm well aware that carton box Riding Hero is not your common or garden homecart. Praising a $175 game which plays like shit and isn't even mint just shows where your priorities lie. You can't bullshit your way out of this one like you did with Kenny. When you stop pandering to Shawn and the NeoStore maybe I'll treat you with the respect you deserve. Until then shut the fuck up... and by the way, I've seen what you Italian collectors call 'mint' and it's a fucking joke. Some of my stuff maybe slightly above the $ value but you get what you pay for - ask any of my buyers that. When I say it's mint it's MINT; unlike other people who call stuff mint just to justify the insanse valuations...
 

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...and by the way, I've seen what you Italian collectors call 'mint' and it's a fucking joke.
Ehy Rich, you know generalizations of this kind are nothing like fair or proper, don't you? shame
 

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and sadly at the end of the day if you want the game bad enough to play it, you have to put up and shut up.

Didn't have to be like though...
Well, you know, it all depends on what side of the fence you're sitting on.

You say you've been into the neo for a long time - the high prices shouldn't make a dent in your attitude, and for a while, I didn't see them doing it.

But for a lot of kids that don't have the money to spend on the neo geo, or never got accustomed to the prices, the whole home cart scene is too outrageous for them.

And when you hang out with kids, you start to think like them...
Just because the likes of you and I have benefitted from being around when the prices were 'normal' doesn't make the high prices right.

Generally the prices don't affect me. I'm not interested in 'rare' carton box games like Riding Hero and Super Spy and I don't buy the ludicrously valued English language homecarts. However, the collector mentality of treating homecarts like stamp collecting bothers me greatly as does price hyping/jacking. I cannot condone denying someone the pleasure of enjoying the experience a game offers because another person thinks it makes a great bookend.

But hey, if you don't give two fucks about people getting to play the games because some rich nerd gets a hard on staring at plastic, well that's your perogative.

Ironic really, seeing as you're 'gameplay moderator'.... hmmmmnn...
Let's not get cheeky.

There are many ways to play and I don't complain about any of them: MVS, CD, Emulator (I try not to). As far as gameplay goes, the homecarts are a non-issue now. They have transcended games into something you are ware of as collectibles.

You bought a $500 game because you know it's damn rare.

Some guy paid $400 for Super Spy carton box for the same reason.

Not because they want to use them...
But let's put it in perspective shall we?

I paid $200 over the original 1996 retail price for what is now a rare game. Rare in two senses:

One - it does not appear for sale very often, meaning that those who have copies are keeping them or that the production run was low.

Two - a lot of copies that do appear of this title have sunfaded inserts, which in turn devalues the game and takes mint copies to a premium.

Personally I think I got a bargain at $500 Charlie, and I'd never accuse you of trying to overprice stuff. Also the game is worth it because I, personally, think it's a cracking game and the best in the series. I play and I play it a lot and it's still in the minty condition you sent it in.
There's people out there who pay this kind of money and NEVER play it... the mind boggles...
Yes, they are collectors. They probably also have Lamborghinis they never drive, because they never learned stick shift, and Mickey Mantle cards when they don't know ERA vs. RBI, or The Amazing Spiderman #1 when they can't read english.

They exist in many forms, and regardless of whether they make sense, they will continue to buy stuff and never appreciate them for more than their monetary value.

But for the gamers, let me propose that the Neo CD and Saturn versions of Metal Slug 1 are actually more fun than the homecart version, and even MVS, due to the fact you get combat school, and yes, on the NCD it's in english to boot.

And as for the rest of the games, MVS is the cheaper alternative, and with Shock Boxes and custom inserts, you don't have to think about such eyesores on the shelf like MotW or Metal Slug 4, or KoF 2001. You can have it your way, and at a fraction of the price.

This is already known stuff though. See, people just complain about prices, and how Shawn or FTL is fucking the scene for the people that matter. And these words are a virus, they get in your head, and after a while you rationalize them, but in reality, these ideas are just as false as my Euro Operation Ragnagard.

BTW: You should know that I didn't charge you a penny more for the cart than I was charged by Hakkun when I first bought it from him. I knew, as you knew, that the cart is rare, and often sunfaded.
 

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...and by the way, I've seen what you Italian collectors call 'mint' and it's a fucking joke.
Ehy Rich, you know generalizations of this kind are nothing like fair or proper, don't you? shame
Life isn't fair olde fruit... just letting off steam at Simone and his 'high & mighty' attitude. Don't take it to heart G.
 

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BTW You should know that I didn't charge you a penny more for the cart than I was charged by Hakkun when I first bought it from him. I knew, as you knew, that the cart is rare, and often sunfaded.
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Yeah what about the mentality of these price jackers, self serving idiots, hyping stuff for their own profit.

I bought a US Ultimate 11 in 1998 for £120 and sold it for £65. Yet when I looked here in 2000 a small circle of price jackers were calling it the holy grail and the price was now up to $2000+!!!!!!!!!!

Its got nothing to do with "experience".

This mine is bigger than yours mentality is wrong.

How do I know there are are more than a handful of US/Euro version Ultimate 11's??? Well from 95-98 I was based at Regents Park in London, 200 metres from the old SNK europe base. A guy called Mr Terenishi used to sell homecarts/mvs and pocket stuff to private buyers. Thats where my ultimate 11 emanated from.
I dont give a shit what the price is now. So what?? Its still a shite game.My personal worst on the neo.
 

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Yes, they are collectors. They probably also have Lamborghinis they never drive, because they never learned stick shift, and Mickey Mantle cards when they don't know ERA vs. RBI, or The Amazing Spiderman #1 when they can't read english.

They exist in many forms, and regardless of whether they make sense, they will continue to buy stuff and never appreciate them for more than their monetary value.
This is not 100% accurate imho.

You can't just say all collector not 'using' the items they collect, thus just 'collecting' them, appreciate just the monetary value of those.

That's statement is logically incorrect.

Any item can be appreciated in many ways and the (mind) pleasure to own a desired/loved item may or may not be affected by the monetary value of it, but indeed is *not necessary* reduced to that only value.

In your point, all art lovers are just collector, cause you can't 'use' a rare/precious picture. Still, they can actually LOVE art, and get pleasure by *owning* the art the love.

Supposedly, even if I turn to have no more time to play my games, I wouln't part with them even when 'stopping' using tham.

That's because -play them or not play them- I just love them. I have played them and loved them, thus their a part of my human history and that will (supposly) always be reflect in my desire and pleasure in having them in my disposition, ie woning them in their best form.

Yes, I'm a fuckin' materialist of this world.

That can't be helped. buttrock
 

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Yeah what about the mentality of these price jackers, self serving idiots, hyping stuff for their own profit.

I bought a US Ultimate 11 in 1998 for £120 and sold it for £65. Yet when I looked here in 2000 a small circle of price jackers were calling it the holy grail and the price was now up to $2000+!!!!!!!!!!

Its got nothing to do with "experience".

This mine is bigger than yours mentality is wrong.

How do I know there are are more than a handful of US/Euro version Ultimate 11's??? Well from 95-98 I was based at Regents Park in London, 200 metres from the old SNK europe base. A guy called Mr Terenishi used to sell homecarts/mvs and pocket stuff to private buyers. Thats where my ultimate 11 emanated from.
I dont give a shit what the price is now. So what?? Its still a shite game.My personal worst on the neo.
You know, prices will eventually meet their true value given a long enoug timeline. You got screwed - you sold before the cart realized the actual price.

BELIEVE ME - if the cart was not that rare, we'd see so many English U11s on ebay. I mean, at least 1 a month, like Metal Slug. But we don't, and that's why the price keeps moving up. People are trying to draw out what's left from the well.

Could you imagine what that lucky bloke is thinking who bought your U11 for £65? He's probably bragging ot all his friends about how he scored a £1900 profit - but at no time would he be thinking abotu you, or how he bought it from you, because the rise happened afterwards, and neither he nor you had any idea it would happen to end like this...

It's called a bad roll of the dice. Spend some time in Monaco, and you'll get used to it. wink
 
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