Gigawing Generations

I just had the chance to play the PS2 port for a while today.

First of all, I didn't like Gigawing 1 because of the ridiculous amount of coins the enemies dropped when killed that would cause chaos in the screen. Graphically I found it very beatiful. I liked Gigawing 2 better.

Well, to me Generations is like 1 changing the 2D hand-made grahics for lifeless polygons. Again we have the thousands of coins, I have a hard time discriminating coins from bullets.

The system of the reflection shield looks interesting, but it's not enough for me to like the games.

Any other opinions?

first of all I'm a big fan of both gigawing on dreamcast even if I prefer the second who is perfect (even if there are a lot slowdown it's not bad for the gameplay) but I really think that this gigawing generation is just an alternative sequel to the first one, because even if it's in 3d it's more like an (little) evolution of the first than the second

but where are those perfect music like in gigawing 2 ??? where is the great feeling as in gigawing 2 ??? in gigawing 2 we have 10 planes, with different gameplay, we have 2 different shield mode, perhaps there are some to unlock in the generation but I'm not sure

in fact the generation is just a version 1.5 and NOT a third game in the serie, I really hope that takumi will make one day a real gigawing 3 with a great evolution of the second

well I think I'm going to play the 2 gigawing on dreamcast once again while waiting for a 3

The Boss Battles are just so INtense


Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb, Reflect, Bomb, REflect, Bomb,

I'd Play Mars Matrix alot more If I didn't suck at it.

No TATE equals doodoo.

What the fuck were they thinking?

Oh, and I hear the framerate is shit as well.

subcons said:

No TATE equals doodoo.

What the fuck were they thinking?

Oh, and I hear the framerate is shit as well.

Click to expand...

30fps.

And tate is not important for a part of the players, which I belong.

Tristesse said:

30fps.

And tate is not important for a part of the players, which I belong.

Click to expand...

I haven't played it, but people are claiming that the refresh rates on bullets and such is screwy and that the game in general feels choppy. Like I said, I haven't played it, just what I've read.

People speculate that maybe that's why there's no full screen TATE mode though. If they couldn't get the game to run correctly in a windowed mode, stands to reason they couldn't get it up to par in TATE.

I love the GigaWing series, but a vertial shooter ported to a system without TATE included is just unforgivable. Not buying. Glad to hear the people that this doesn't bother are enjoying it though.

EDIT: BTW, the framerate issue is different between Original and Arcade. Not sure which one is what...?

NO TATE MODE! Youre kidding me. The port is complete shit then. Thank you for the info, I almost bought this! Back to Strikers 1945 (The first one)

Complete shit is a bit harsh. As has been mentioned, most people who buy it likely will never have use for a TATE mode.

I COULD use it but it really doesn't make my blood boil that it isn't there. Framerate isn't as bad as some make it out to be.

I like this game a lot. Overall it is a much better release than that piece of shit Psikyo Shooting Collection Vol. 3. ALL vertical shooters from Psikyo are exactly the fucking same. DB is just a bit harder, and then they've made it so that it looks like you're playing the fucking thing in composite for some reason. This is the worst looking conversion of a Psikyo game EVER.

What sucks about both releases is that they're both on CD's. Shame on you, Taito!

Giga wing went down hill since the first episode. i have both 1 and 2 on DC and except the "oh my god" factor due to graphics and musics ( I admit that Giga wing 2 has awesome musics) GW2 let me a bad taste in my mouth after some times. it reminds me the twin bee games on pc engine, where you spend more time fighting bosses than going thought the level. Plus I don't like the new features of the second episode: I don't like the new planes nor the new reflection shield.Now I'm playing both (GW1 more often) but my vote goes for GW1.

No TATE blows, but I'm glad we actually got the game.
I like Gigawing 2 a lot better, for obvious reasons.

Kristian Meller said:

Complete shit is a bit harsh. As has been mentioned, most people who buy it likely will never have use for a TATE mode.

I COULD use it but it really doesn't make my blood boil that it isn't there. Framerate isn't as bad as some make it out to be.

I like this game a lot. Overall it is a much better release than that piece of shit Psikyo Shooting Collection Vol. 3. ALL vertical shooters from Psikyo are exactly the fucking same. DB is just a bit harder, and then they've made it so that it looks like you're playing the fucking thing in composite for some reason. This is the worst looking conversion of a Psikyo game EVER.

What sucks about both releases is that they're both on CD's. Shame on you, Taito!

Click to expand...

Stop babbling about other games idiot.

LOL. I knew you'd take offense because I said something bad about DB

It's very relevant since they were released within the same week by the same company. I'll decide for myself what games I'll babble about.

Kristian Meller said:

LOL. I knew you'd take offense because I said something bad about DB

It's very relevant since they were released within the same week by the same company. I'll decide for myself what games I'll babble about.

Click to expand...

We're talking about Gigawing Generations, not Dragon Blaze or any other
psikyo shmups, thanks. You have been proven to be a fucking idiot in the
all about shmups thread anyway.

xtoo_short20x said:

We're talking about Gigawing Generations, not Dragon Blaze or any other
psikyo shmups, thanks. You have been proven to be a fucking idiot in the
all about shmups thread anyway.

Click to expand...

agreed

Well neither of the Dreamcast versions had a vertical mode either.....

moonwhistle said:

Well neither of the Dreamcast versions had a vertical mode either.....

Click to expand...

Those games were designed with a horizontal oriented screen in mind even though they scrolled vertically.

Generations is a true vert shooter. It's meant to be played on a 3x4 display like Ikaruga. So all we get with the port is a windowed yoko mode. Unforgivable for a vert shooter port these days, especially coming out of Japan.

There's an "original" screen mode as well as an arcade mode. It expands the screen so there's no horizontal scrolling. So it's almost like playing the other two games

xtoo_short20x said:

We're talking about Gigawing Generations, not Dragon Blaze or any other
psikyo shmups, thanks. You have been proven to be a fucking idiot in the
all about shmups thread anyway.

Click to expand...

It's amazing how easily you get worked up over things. You're not the one who gets to decide what is to be discussed in the threads. And YOU weren't taking part in the discussion. You just showed your ugly head because I made a post criticizing something you like. Why didn't you show up to call me names when I recommended Mars Matrix a couple of weeks ago?

Kristian Meller said:

There's an "original" screen mode as well as an arcade mode. It expands the screen so there's no horizontal scrolling. So it's almost like playing the other two games

Click to expand...

It simply isn't the same. Once you go TATE there's no other way of playing these types of games.

It doesn't bother some people. I don't fall into that group.

*

Kristian Meller said:

Complete shit is a bit harsh. As has been mentioned, most people who buy it likely will never have use for a TATE mode.

I COULD use it but it really doesn't make my blood boil that it isn't there. Framerate isn't as bad as some make it out to be.

I like this game a lot. Overall it is a much better release than that piece of shit Psikyo Shooting Collection Vol. 3. ALL vertical shooters from Psikyo are exactly the fucking same. DB is just a bit harder, and then they've made it so that it looks like you're playing the fucking thing in composite for some reason. This is the worst looking conversion of a Psikyo game EVER.

What sucks about both releases is that they're both on CD's. Shame on you, Taito!

Click to expand...

Are you out of your fucking mind? GWG is shit and you know it.

Psikyo Vol.3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GWG

BIG-

Dude, calm down. I really hope you're kidding.

There are people who prefer Layer Section to Donpachi but that doesn't mean they're retarded.

Kristian Meller said:

Dude, calm down. I really hope you're kidding.

There are people who prefer Layer Section to Donpachi but that doesn't mean they're retarded.

Click to expand...

I really wish I were kidding,but unfortunately,I am not....

No Tate,horrible frame-rate,poorly drawn 3-D graphics,uninspired music,weak sound..need I say more?

BIG-

Even though you feel that you're right regarding the above listed issues, I still don't feel it's shit and I definitely don't "know it".

Kristian Meller said:

Even though you feel that you're right regarding the above listed issues, I still don't feel it's shit and I definitely don't "know it".

Click to expand...

Fine,go ahead and justify your purchase all you want...the game sucks.

Thank god I got rid of mine.

BIG-

It's justified by the fact that it's the new shooter I've enjoyed the most since ESPGaluda. I think it's good and that's really all that matters.

Holy crap this game is bad......!!!!

Tried to play 2 player...can't even tell what's going on

DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!