new PGM fighting game: Spectral vs Generation

[DevilRedeemed]

You've probably seens some info on this around the net. Looks bloody great, makes me want to get a PGM. Its supposedly made up of RPG characters. There's a video somewhere, I posted it before, I can find it again if anyone's interested.

new, hand-drawn sprites, great look, possibly great mechanics, all on a system and by a company I imagine is way smaller than SNKP. what can you do eh?

http://www.neo-arcadia.com/imagesnews/arcadia59/svsg/svsg5

http://www.neo-arcadia.com/imagesnews/arcadia59/svsg/svsg1

http://www.neo-arcadia.com/imagesnews/arcadia59/svsg/svsg3

http://www.neo-arcadia.com/imagesnews/arcadia59/svsg/svsg8

[pixeljunkie]

me wanty! [why did I sell my PGM?! why?!!] I miss Demon Front too.

[neojedi]

That looks like a decent game, and that system needed a good swordfighter. I didn't bite on Killing Blade because almost no one has anything good to say about it. Well, almost no one had anything at all to say about it, and that's an even worse sign.

That having been said, I expect that this cart will be as difficult to get as always. IGS is a pain to deal with, and distributors mark up their carts as a result.

[DevilRedeemed]

it is my understanding that this game was more popular than NBC this last AOU show. it was I think within the top 5 most popular games at the show

[Dash no Chris]

Looks bloody great, makes me want to get a PGM.
Has it been confirmed that it's being done for the PGM? Only thing I'd heard was that was the assumption, but after the last Sangoku Senki installment got released on the Atomiswave instead of the PGM, I'd been assuming we'd be lucky to see another PGM release, ever. Hoping like hell this will be PGM...

--Chris

[nruva]

Wow, that looks damn good for PGM. I can't wait to see it in motion.

[Loopz]

it is my understanding that this game was more popular than NBC this last AOU show. it was I think within the top 5 most popular games at the show

I can see why. There's seems to be a whole lot of love put into those sprites, looks like a page torn right out of Capcom's mid-90s design book. Hmmm, this may necessitate a purchase. I don't know much about PGM, how differently is it wired from MVS? It would be a thing of beauty if I could just slap that into my 2-slot cab.

[DevilRedeemed]

I can see why. There's seems to be a whole lot of love put into those sprites, looks like a page torn right out of Capcom's mid-90s design book. Hmmm, this may necessitate a purchase. I don't know much about PGM, how differently is it wired from MVS? It would be a thing of beauty if I could just slap that into my 2-slot cab.

I'm not 100% sure but I think its wired the same way as MVS? I really don't know.


Has it been confirmed that it's being done for the PGM? Only thing I'd heard was that was the assumption, but after the last Sangoku Senki installment got released on the Atomiswave instead of the PGM, I'd been assuming we'd be lucky to see another PGM release, ever. Hoping like hell this will be PGM...

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I'm pretty sure this is PGM - the graphics/colours look like they where produced on that hardware. neo-arcadia.com speak about it as if this is a given so my money is on this being PGM.

edit: here's some footage from AOU:
http://data.uploda.net/anonymous/et...upload14239.mpg

edit2: never mind. link's broken

[VanillaThunder]

I can see why. There's seems to be a whole lot of love put into those sprites, looks like a page torn right out of Capcom's mid-90s design book. Hmmm, this may necessitate a purchase. I don't know much about PGM, how differently is it wired from MVS? It would be a thing of beauty if I could just slap that into my 2-slot cab.


If it's JAMMA, of course it's wired the same way, SILLY.

P.S. The PGM uses that extra connector next to P1 Button3 and P2 Button3 for Button4, which is the same way the finger connector on a PGM is. So if your harness is wired for that, you're fine.

[Alex0916]

Wow that game looks sweet :eek:

[Loopz]

If it's JAMMA, of course it's wired the same way, SILLY.

P.S. The PGM uses that extra connector next to P1 Button3 and P2 Button3 for Button4, which is the same way the finger connector on a PGM is. So if your harness is wired for that, you're fine.

I knew that I much, I just wondered if it used the same JAMMA+ config as the MVS, since it was so clearly aimed at the same market.

[VanillaThunder]

I knew that I much, I just wondered if it used the same JAMMA+ config as the MVS, since it was so clearly aimed at the same market.


I know, I was being sarcastic along with offering info for those not in the know.

Hence, the use of the all caps SILLY.


;)

[Amano Jacu]

I have a PGM with Demon Front and Knights of Valour, this game looks very interesting, however PGM games are much rarer and more expensive than the MVS ones from the same time, so as everybody, I expect this one to be expensive as hell for a long while :crying:

[Seijuro Hiko]

I really want game. The charakter design is absolutely fantastic!
Well, there will surely (I hope) be a PS2 version from Idea Factory in the future.

[Orochi Iori Y]

Wow, that looks really nice. :D It reminds me of a cross between Last Blade and Guilty Gear as far as looks go...
:buttrock:

[NeoDragoN]

OH YEAH!

Another 1 0n 1 fighter just what i want for my PGM Martial Masters and Killing blade are getting old now!

Will keep me eye on this one!

[SNKJorge]

I saw a couple of vids at Click-Stick.com I think...
Its pricetag is set at $2k right now though. It should drop in price though.

[neo_X7]

I saw a couple of vids at Click-Stick.com I think...
Its pricetag is set at $2k right now though. It should drop in price though.

Is this game in cart form, or one of those all in one motherboard deals?

[SNKJorge]

Is this game in cart form, or one of those all in one motherboard deals?

No idea.
We will know in the upcoming days, I hope.

[bloodriot]

well this topic certainly started a fire in my panties game looks awesome :buttrock: IGS I love you, marry me and have mah children

[Big Shady]

n00b question:

What is PGM? :emb:

[Dash no Chris]

n00b question: What is PGM? :emb:
Here's a quick quote from the top of the PGM Owners thread (http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96407):

For those who are unfamiliar with IGS CO., LTD. and its PGM arcade hardware, IGS (International Games System) is a Taiwanese company, with a website at www.igs.com.tw . The PGM (PolyGame Master) is a mother-board / daughter-cart system, the design of which seems VERY reminiscient of recent editions of the NEO-GEO MVS 1-slot mobos. More info on the PGM can be found here (http://www.system16.com/other/hrdw_pgm.html) (in English), and here (http://www.polygamemaster.de/) (in German).
--Chris

[PLECO]

Any new info on this game.
It looks awesome :buttrock:

[triggeR]

wow looks great :buttrock:
i need a pgm board!

[neojedi]

http://www.ideaf.co.jp/v/s.html

Interestingly enough, the concept for this game didn't come out of the blue. It has some connection to previous Idea Factory releases, and appears to be a release by Idea Factory in cooperation with IGS.

[Dash no Chris]

http://www.ideaf.co.jp/v/s.html

Interestingly enough, the concept for this game didn't come out of the blue. It has some connection to previous Idea Factory releases, and appears to be a release by Idea Factory in cooperation with IGS.
Thanks for the link, neojedi.

Yeah, the characters are taken from the "Spectral Force" and "Generation of Chaos" series.

--Chris

[NeoDragoN]

Is this definately a PGM Cart? Its not using the PGM Technology on a PCB is it?

[SNKJorge]

Is this definately a PGM Cart? Its not using the PGM Technology on a PCB is it?

I would like to know the same thing, anyone who understands JP can tell us?

[Dash no Chris]

I would like to know the same thing, anyone who understands JP can tell us?
I'm also still waiting for confirmation of the hardware/software release format. I didn't see any mention of Poly Game Master (cart or pcb), Atomiswave, or any other system hardware on the game's Japanese website.

--Chris

[lostdog]

Well, since Playmore is squeaking out similar looks on the Atomiswave, and Knights of Valour 3 saw an Atomiswave release, I almost wonder if this isn't Atomiswave and not PGM. Stil, looks great, and I'd love to give it a go on either platform.

[Greywolf]

According to Starchamber, who's a mod at arcaderick's forum, it's gonna be a PCB using PGM tech (the part of the thread where we talked about it is unfortunately in german):

http://www.atlus-cave.com/wbb230/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=136

Dunno how reliable that guy's source of information is, though the graphics do look "PGM-style" to me. Also, if it were on Atomiswave, the game would prolly have hires 3d-backgrounds just like KoV: Seven Spirits.

[NeoDragoN]

I have no doubts its on PGM hardware, gutted if its on PCB would have bee nice on Cart.

Hope they do cart and pcb like they did with Demon Front.

[Dash no Chris]

Unfortunately, the most recent ish of Arcadia (No. 60, May '05 - on sale 3/30/05) doesn't indicate which mobo format SVG will use. The magazine presents the game's vital statistics thusly:

Titile: Spectral vs Generation
Maker: Idea Factory IGS / AMI
Genre: Taisen Kakutou (Versus Fighting)
Control Scheme: 8-directional Lever + 4 Buttons
Release Date: May '05
Motherboard: --

The 4-button layout would seem to indicate either a PGM cart or a PGM PCB, since the couple of fighting games we've seen on Atomiswave have gone with a 5-button scheme. If SVG is planned as a PGM game, I'm hoping like hell it's not a PCB-only release (I really like the convenience/design of the cart system).

BTW, the SVG article in Arcadia No. 60 is 3 full-color pages, featuring a basic system overview, and initial movelists for 10 of the characters (Hiro, Orochimaru, Earth, Wells, Mayura, Krayce, Ryuken, Erille, Roze, and Jadou). The 4 buttons, btw, are Weak Attack, Medium Attack, Strong Attack, and Kick. Features include: dash, backstep, high jump, 2-button throws (A+D or B+D), throw evasion, and safe fall.

--Chris

[Alex0916]

I have no doubts its on PGM hardware, gutted if its on PCB would have bee nice on Cart.

Hope they do cart and pcb like they did with Demon Front.I sure hope it's in cart format. I don't have any more space for another PCB.

[Dreamer]

Wow, this looks really awesome! I must get a pgm when I got myself a cab :buttrock:

[lostdog]

I have to admit, IGS titles have tempted me more than a few times to pick up a PGM. I'm going to wait and see how this one turns out, but I think it's going to be another solid game in their library.

[JayL]

I just got offered one for sale, pcb version $500, very tempting.
Did anybody saw pgm cart version, or is it only in pcb's ?

[SNKJorge]

I have only seen it in PCB form. Anyone has some sort of review about this
game? I heard it isn't so hot.

[Nguyen2]

I have only seen it in PCB form. Anyone has some sort of review about this
game? I heard it isn't so hot.


I just wanna know if anyone has even touched this game.
Look pretty colorful.

[JayL]

ah, what a hell, I think I will get it. I will let you gus know, how it is :drool_2:

[Dave_K.]

I just got offered one for sale, pcb version $500, very tempting.
Did anybody saw pgm cart version, or is it only in pcb's ?

Its around $350 on Yahoo Japan.

http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n25484119

[BIG]

I heard the game is of pure shyt.

B-

[JayL]

trailer looks good, I guess I will find out :)

[Cnidarian]

Its around $350 on Yahoo Japan.

http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n25484119
with the current Yen to Dollar (http://money.cnn.com/data/currencies/index.html) rate, its more like $298.00+

last copy I saw on auction went for 25,000 Y (http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k24563926) or ~$213.00


from match videos, the game seems like it plays somewhat stiff.. but everything else looks kinda neat.

[J0e Musashi]

I knew that I much, I just wondered if it used the same JAMMA+ config as the MVS, since it was so clearly aimed at the same market.

MVS is not JAMMA+. PGM is wired exactly the same as MVS, barring the select button.

[Dave_K.]

Excellentcom just sent out a price for this at $448 for PCB box kit, and $198 for a new cart (Chinese) with header and manual. So I guess they are making a cart version.

[NGT]

^^ just got the email as well...


IGS New Game


Spectral VS Generation Brand New PCB Boxed Kit
Include : PCB + Header + Manuel + Box
Price : USD448

Spectral VS Generation Brand New Cartridge
Include : PGM Cartridge (Chinese Version) + Header + Manuel
Price : USD198

[JayL]

sweet, I'm glad I didn't get pcb yet :)

[pixeljunkie]

video looks great, anyone actually played it?

I'm curious.

[JayL]

getting a PGM Cartridge, will post some video clips :buttrock:

[SNKJorge]

^^ just got the email as well...

I'd probably get the cart version now. I was eyeing the pcb, but
this is a lot better.

[NGT]

true! I would definitely go the cart route. It's just more practical. Nice ride by the way.

[300wins]

So has anyone actually bought this title yet to tell us how the gameplay is?

[Dean]

I just got the complete PGM cart kit in but haven't had a chance to try it yet :emb:

[Amano Jacu]

Cosmicco has the cart version for 180$.

[Saturn2dfreak]

this game looks nice

[INfintido]

There was a match video on game41, not sure if it's still there.

[BIG]

Come on,let's hear some impressions.

I know a bunch of you nancies bought the damn game...

B-

[NGT]

Come on,let's hear some impressions.

I know a bunch of you nancies bought the damn game...

B-



I would like to hear some impressions too!

[SNKJorge]

So did anyone get this game?

[Trevor spencer]

I know there is a PS2 release in march , want to hear some impressons first before i pre-order

[pda]

If i remember correctly,i've seen this game back when it was in location test in Japan last spring.Small but coloured sprites,big combos and a good amount of young teens available.Ain't a fighter specialist but i think fighters had low range moves,so getting closer to your opponent is the way to go for launching combos.

[pda]

Sorry,forgot to say that i'm currently tracking down PGM full kits from any game.Open to any offer(can't post thread in market forum at the moment).

Thanks

[Amano Jacu]

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0601/game060115e.shtml

Some info on the PS2 port of this game, I guess it'll be worth to check it.

[bemanicho1]

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0601/game060115e.shtml

It says there: ".. the PS2 port of Spectral Vs Generation will have 33 playable characters..." :eek:

Does anyone know if this is true? I think the arcade version had around 13 characters. 20 new characters would be great but it seems like it could be a mistake.

[Darklighterx]

Bump!
Who bought this game? How is it?

[silent shade]

I just got this game and its alright but is there anywhere i can find match vids at all?????

[pixeljunkie]

I just got this game and its alright but is there anywhere i can find match vids at all?????

you just got the actual game or the PS2 port?

[Poison Sama]

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0601/game060115e.shtml

It says there: ".. the PS2 port of Spectral Vs Generation will have 33 playable characters..." :eek:

Does anyone know if this is true? I think the arcade version had around 13 characters. 20 new characters would be great but it seems like it could be a mistake.

http://www.ideaf.co.jp/spectral/vs/c_hiro.html

Doesn't look like any new characters were added...

[StealthLurker]

I got the ps2 port a couple days ago, however just popped it in a few minutes ago after reading this thread. :lol: Pre-orderd it from Play-Asia a whiiile back. The game is "alright". A bit too much guilty gear in style/appearance and gameplay for my taste (don't like guilty gear). It's a decent game but the crazy, over the top combos are not my thing. Mainly used the character that resembles and has moves like the shaolin guy from lastblade.

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[pixeljunkie]

I got the ps2 port a couple days ago, however just popped it in a few minutes ago after reading this thread. :lol: Pre-orderd it from Play-Asia a whiiile back. The game is "alright". A bit too much guilty gear in style/appearance and gameplay for my taste (don't like guilty gear). It's a decent game but the crazy, over the top combos are not my thing. Mainly used the character that resembles and has moves like the shaolin guy from lastblade.

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I grabbed the port to check out as well, I am trying out the online evaluation copy :cool: Its not too bad. As far as ports go I give it BIG props over the recent SNK stuff as there are little to no load times at all. Very cool and sad that that is so noticeable lately. It feels a little like Rumble Fish to me in terms of speeds and combos, not as fast as Guilty Gear. Its very colorful though. Quality is right up ther with Martial Masters but with a little more production value. I'm tempted to grab the PGM cart of this.

[neojedi]

Does anyone know what language formats the game came in? I was waiting on / hoping for English, but all I've seen so far is Japanese PCB and Chinese cart. I'm assuming that like all Asian PGM releases, there is no language option.

[pixeljunkie]

Does anyone know what language formats the game came in? I was waiting on / hoping for English, but all I've seen so far is Japanese PCB and Chinese cart. I'm assuming that like all Asian PGM releases, there is no language option.

As far as I know only chinese for the cart

[neojedi]

As far as I know only chinese for the cart
That's the feel I get too. What mystifies me is that IGS actually translated their website for the game to English. Are they telling us, "Hey! Here's a game we aren't releasing for your region!"?

http://www.igs.com.tw/english/product/svg/

[alec]

looks cool

[AlphaONE]

Is the cart worth going after you think?
I don't have a jpn ps2 so importing it pretty much won't happen.
I heard it was a PCB?

It looks to be a clone of the DarkStalkers atmosphere (which is a very good thing)
:)

[pixeljunkie]

Is the cart worth going after you think?
I don't have a jpn ps2 so importing it pretty much won't happen.
I heard it was a PCB?

It looks to be a clone of the DarkStalkers atmosphere (which is a very good thing)
:)

Its a PCB and a PGM cart.

Wouldn't say its a Darkstalkers atmosphere. Its actually pretty unique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-U3cjYI-FM

[StealthLurker]

Its a PCB and a PGM cart.

Wouldn't say its a Darkstalkers atmosphere. Its actually pretty unique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-U3cjYI-FM

That video man.... that's part of why I don't like the game personally. Over the top "combos"... what is this killer instinct? When I played it last night I was pulling off some crazy hit combos by just doing 1 fireball motion + punch and pressing kick 2 times afterwards.

I was like, what the hell... "auto combos"? Yeah they don't take off too much damage (however damage level can be adjusted in the options menu)... but still. All imho of course.

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[bemanicho1]

Its a PCB and a PGM cart.

Wouldn't say its a Darkstalkers atmosphere. Its actually pretty unique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-U3cjYI-FM

Is that a legitimate combo that can't be escaped?

[das roker]

Is that a legitimate combo that can't be escaped?

god

I hope not

that's what you call a deal breaker

[pixeljunkie]

well, you could tell that he had the timer on infinity and I guarantee you it was just a dummy he was fighting. I HIGHLY doubt you could do that against an opponent or even the CPU for that matter. However, the CPU on the PS2 port was a joke up until the last guy, who is so cheap it made me toss my controller a couple times. And whats up with the PS2 one only booting up with a dual-shock controller plugged in??? I couldn't use my Hori stick. :very_ang:

[Dave_K.]

And whats up with the PS2 one only booting up with a dual-shock controller plugged in??? I couldn't use my Hori stick. :very_ang:

It requies a dualshock on bootup, but after the game starts I was able to unplug that and use a PSX stick just fine. A slight annoyance, yes.