La Mara Salvatrucha 13 (An emerging threat to the U.S)

AztekNinja · Mar 15, 2005

The original article here-

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/03/14/gang.arrests.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- More than 100 alleged members of the violent Central American street gang MS-13 have been arrested in a nationwide sweep, authorities said Monday.

Using information from local and state law enforcement agencies, federal agents charged 103 members of the Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, gang with a range of criminal and immigration charges. The arrests came in the New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Newark, Miami and Dallas metropolitan areas over the last several weeks.

Officials said MS-13 is one of the largest and most violent street gangs in the United States, and the majority of its members are in the country illegally. The gang has carried out beheadings and grenade attacks in Central America and is known to hack their enemies with machetes in cities along the East Coast in the United States.

The arrests are the result of a new "Operation Community Shield" nationwide sting by the U.S. Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement to target violent gangs.

"By bringing the full range of ICE's immigration and customs authorities in the fight against violent street gangs, we can take hundreds of gang members off the streets and have a significant impact on community safety," said Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Michael Garcia, who is director of the ICE bureau.

Half of the alleged gang members have prior arrests or convictions for violent crimes, including murder, sodomy, assault, arson and weapons and drug possession, officials said.

In one example, on March 13 agents arrested a man who acknowledged he is a founding member and leader of the MS-13 cell in Hollywood, officials said. The man, who was charged with immigration violations, was previously convicted in the United States for robbery, possession of a dangerous weapon and mail theft.

Authorities also arrested the purported leader of the MS-13 cell in Long Branch, New Jersey. on March 10. The suspect has a criminal rap sheet that includes charges of arson, weapons possession and grand larceny, officials said. He was also arrested on immigration charges.

Last month, former Homeland Security Deputy Secretary James Loy called MS-13 an emerging threat to the United States, referring to the gang and the al-Qaida terrorist organization in the same breath in testimony to Congress. Besides al-Qaida, Loy said, "We are seeing the emergence of other threatening groups and gangs like MS-13 that will also be destabilizing influences."

Officials arrested 30 alleged gang members in the New York metropolitan area, the most of any of the seven cities targeted. Twenty-five were arrested in Washington, 17 in Los Angeles, and 10 each in the Baltimore, Newark and Miami areas. The last arrest came in Dallas, officials said.

This guys are spreading fast. Coincidentally, a couple weeks ago I heard that MS-13 was coming to Chicago. My boys were alarmed and knew that this would bring more police on the streets. They already infested the other big cities, its only a matter of time before they get here, who knows how they will clash here in Chicago and with who they will align. A big gang like them has got to at least bother big time gangs here like the Latin Kings, Two-Six, Vicelords GDs and so forth. The worst impact will have to be on the people, there known to be extremely violent, I'm worried about my people.

LWK · Mar 15, 2005

AztekNinja said:
The original article here-

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/03/14/gang.arrests.ap/index.html

This guys are spreading fast. Coincidentally, a couple weeks ago I heard that MS-13 was coming to Chicago. My boys were alarmed and knew that this would bring more police on the streets. They already infested the other big cities, its only a matter of time before they get here, who knows how they will clash here in Chicago and with who they will align. A big gang like them has got to at least bother big time gangs here like the Latin Kings, Two-Six, Vicelords GDs and so forth. The worst impact will have to be on the people, there known to be extremely violent, I'm worried about my people.

Uh, okay..
Everyones a fucking gang now. The only real gangs that get shit done are mafia's.
Have those boys go to philly and try that.

LA COSA NOSTRA will destroy any crew. From the med killer of the truly deep deep south.

Brotherhood of agapi owns this also.

AztekNinja · Mar 15, 2005

Lord Wolfgang Krauser said:
Uh, okay..
Everyones a fucking gang now. The only real gangs that get shit done are mafia's.
Have those boys go to philly and try that.

LA COSA NOSTRA will destroy any crew. From the med killer of the truly deep deep south.

Brotherhood of agapi owns this also.

Umm, yeah...

The point is wheter its organized crime(like you stated the mafia) or violent street gangs, they are all dangerous and a big problem to society. A gang is just a group of indivuals who do illegal activities. The mafia are still scumbags, just like the street gangs, they are no better than the rest. They all kill without remorse, and destroy peoples lives.

neo_X7 · Mar 15, 2005

Fight crime shoot back, :mad:

really this is the reason why we don't have these bullshit gangs where I live. :rolleyes:

Lord Wolfgang Krauser said:
Uh, okay..
Everyones a fucking gang now. The only real gangs that get shit done are mafia's.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

RAINBOW PONY · Mar 15, 2005

I'm in a gang, it's called Deez Nuts

Fuck gangs. I'll go N.A.R.C on their ass.

LWK · Mar 15, 2005

AztekNinja said:
Umm, yeah...

The point is wheter its organized crime(like you stated the mafia) or violent street gangs, they are all dangerous and a big problem to society. A gang is just a group of indivuals who do illegal activities. The mafia are still scumbags, just like the street gangs, they are no better than the rest. They all kill without remorse, and destroy peoples lives.

Man they aint no problem. Not some bullshit gangs. Dont worry about those fucks, when it comes down to it, they always put there necks in someones toilet eventually. You do enough deals, you are bound to get fucked. Mafia is way worse then gangs, its scary and less known about also.. You also dont know who the fuck is who when it comes down to it. You're best friend could have a gun to your head at any moment. Gangs are a low income rip off of the mob. The mafia isnt just a problem, its part of southern european heritage. It makes for good stories in america, but in person face to face with these people you dont wanna go toe to toe. You just cant win, no matter how many you wipe out. Its also a stereotype point, but thats well established by now.

I remember my grandfather saying our family name is no good in our native country.. We had it changed also. Now thats mafia mentality. The kinds of things where shit gets so dangerous you gotta keep your mouth shut for safety reasons.. I still dont know the whole story behind that, but I doubt its really bad.

You know, I wouldnt mind being in the mafia, some piece of shit fuck shot one of my relatives to death point blank in the face. If I ever find out who wronged us, I swear they will fucking pay. I have no remorse for those scum. My grandfather was distraught when we got that phone call.

You wanna know the most dangerous gangs? Alot of those asian gangs. Man, they dont fuck around and play games. Some of them dudes kill like its a daily activity. Not my kind of style. wah ching or some shit, those gangs are fucking scary.

Poonman · Mar 15, 2005

Up here we have Rock Machines/ Hells angels/Satan's Choice biker gangs setting up chapters around the G.T.A.

Hells Angels are obviously the most organized and very powerful, they are integrated with City Hall and the Metro Area police force here in Toronto...

HOWEVER: when hundreds of Angels had to ride through the city of Guelph, a mafia run city at the time....those pussy assed bikers went right around the city in their little bikes...

....mafia leaders promised to kill their entire chapter down to the last man if they went through their territory.

True story. happened like 20 years ago.

LWK · Mar 15, 2005

Sp0o/\/?! said:
Up here we have Rock Machines/ Hells angels/Satan's Choice biker gangs setting up chapters around the G.T.A.

Hells Angels are obviously the most organized and very powerful, they are integrated with City Hall and the Metro Area police force here in Toronto...

HOWEVER: when hundreds of Angels had to ride through the city of Guelph, a mafia run city at the time....those pussy assed bikers went right around the city in their little bikes...

....mafia leaders promised to kill their entire chapter down to the last man if they went through their territory.

True story. happened like 20 years ago.

Angels are just into beating up hippies. I cant hate a crew that beats on hippie musicians. Didnt they used to beat the piss out of performers a long time ago?

norton9478 · Mar 15, 2005

Lord Wolfgang Krauser said:
Angels are just into beating up hippies. I cant hate a crew that beats on hippie musicians. Didnt they used to beat the piss out of performers a long time ago?

Your probably thinking about altamont........... They beat up the festival goers....

LWK · Mar 15, 2005

norton9478 said:
Your probably thinking about altamont........... They beat up the festival goers....

Really? What is altamont?

DevilRedeemed · Mar 15, 2005

mafia in Argentina is an everyday word. the place is so corrupt its sick. a couple of our ex-presidents where/are drug traffickers, the kind of stuff they where into (illegal arms trades, drugs, money laundering etc, etc) is bewildering. organised crime here affects 50% of everyday life here to some extent or another. some provinces are completly under the dominion of elite political ruling families, feudal style (honestly). and its a cultural problem which will never change, because the bottom line is people like this way of life even if they complain about it all the time - they perpetuate it.

norton9478 · Mar 15, 2005

Lord Wolfgang Krauser said:
Really? What is altamont?

It was the Rolling Stone's answer to Woodstock. It took place in northern Cali. The Stones hired Hells angels to do security....

Bad Idea....

Shit went haywire and they ended up killing some festival goers with pool Ques....

Tacitus · Mar 15, 2005

norton9478 said:
It was the Rolling Stone's answer to Woodstock. It took place in northern Cali. The Stones hired Hells angels to do security....

Bad Idea....

Shit went haywire and they ended up killing some festival goers with pool Ques....

When I saw your name in the topic reply on the boards, for some reason, I thought you were going to blame this on GB.

norton9478 · Mar 15, 2005

VanillaThunder said:
When I saw your name in the topic reply on the boards, for some reason, I thought you were going to blame this on GB.

Nah, we all know that this is the fault of Hippie left wing liberals and thier love for illegal immigration...

The only thing Bush does is make sure that they can get the finnest cop killing arms that blood money can buy.

Poonman · Mar 15, 2005

DevilRedeemed said:
mafia in Argentina is an everyday word. the place is so corrupt its sick. a couple of our ex-presidents where/are drug traffickers, the kind of stuff they where into (illegal arms trades, drugs, money laundering etc, etc) is bewildering. organised crime here affects 50% of everyday life here to some extent or another. some provinces are completly under the dominion of elite political ruling families, feudal style (honestly). and its a cultural problem which will never change, because the bottom line is people like this way of life even if they complain about it all the time - they perpetuate it.

Pffft. Replace "Argentina" with "America" and nobody would be the wiser.

NeoTheranthrope · Mar 15, 2005

Using information from local and state law enforcement agencies, federal agents charged 103 members of the Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, gang with a range of criminal and immigration charges. The arrests came in the New York, Washington, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Newark, Miami and Dallas metropolitan areas over the last several weeks.

pfffff.. No presence in Vegas.

Small timers..

Tacitus · Mar 15, 2005

Sp0o/\/?! said:
Pffft. Replace "Argentina" with "America" and nobody would be the wiser.

....and who got elected due to mafia influence?

Democratic hero JFK!

SNKJorge · Mar 15, 2005

Meh.
These fucktards, including mexican cholos, and any other gang wannabe
idiots came to the States, and or were born in the States. Over here they
come and learn stupid shit, here in the states is where usually all these MARAS or
Gangas are born, all of them are full of stubborn losers.

If you go to any decent latin america city in either central america or south
america, there's usually real organized crime, and real mafia, Family mafia,
not this sureño, norteño, salvatrucha stupid shit that
you find here. I swear this is one of the
most stupidest shit ever, it's sad.

Like LWK said, these are like inferior ports, classless fucks, wannabes.

I said fuck them all, deport all of their asses (If no papers), otherwise just put
them to sleep, as there's no hopes for these fucktards.

AztekNinja said:
The original article here-

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/03/14/gang.arrests.ap/index.html

This guys are spreading fast. Coincidentally, a couple weeks ago I heard that MS-13 was coming to Chicago. My boys were alarmed and knew that this would bring more police on the streets. They already infested the other big cities, its only a matter of time before they get here, who knows how they will clash here in Chicago and with who they will align. A big gang like them has got to at least bother big time gangs here like the Latin Kings, Two-Six, Vicelords GDs and so forth. The worst impact will have to be on the people, there known to be extremely violent, I'm worried about my people.

roker · Mar 15, 2005

if I were a rapper I'd glorify everything they did and get cool tatoos

and eat at burger king

norton9478 · Mar 15, 2005

Spiders!!!

They Killed Paco!!!!!!

AztekNinja · Mar 15, 2005

xtoo_short20x said:
Meh.
These fucktards, including mexican cholos, and any other gang wannabe
idiots came to the States, and or were born in the States. Over here they
come and learn stupid shit, here in the states is where usually all these MARAS or
Gangas are born, all of them are full of stubborn losers.

If you go to any decent latin america city in either central america or south
america, there's usually real organized crime, and real mafia, Family mafia,
not this sureño, norteño, salvatrucha stupid shit that
you find here. I swear this is one of the
most stupidest shit ever, it's sad.

Like LWK said, these are like inferior ports, classless fucks, wannabes.

I said fuck them all, deport all of their asses (If no papers), otherwise just put
them to sleep, as there's no hopes for these fucktards.

The majority of MARAs here are illegal immigrants. They will be deported back and cause problems. What I find weird from you guys, is how you just overlook these guys like nothing... Gangs and mafia and anything else really....is dangerous. It affects peoples lives. To see someone killed is something that is not easy to forget. I dont know how to explain it, but what I have seen throughout my short life...is something that gives me a different view of things.....I would REALLY want to become a cop...this reminds me what I really would like to be in life... :confused:

galfordo · Mar 16, 2005

My own pubic hair is the worst gang I've ever had to deal with - the shit just keeps coming. Eventually, after I'm totally fed up, I'll shave it - and then they just come back even stronger! I wish they'd just leave my POWAR RAWD alone.

:oh_no:

It's a fucked up world down there. :crying:

dakingofzumunda · Mar 16, 2005

MS-13... I haven't heard about this gang since I left L.A 12 years ago. They were very prominent around the High School I went to. I always thought they were wannabe Taggers or something.

Those gang initiations were pretty brutal back in the day. We still got Vatos Locos and 13's up here. Didn't know MS-13 still existed.

Lastblade · Mar 16, 2005

So are they joining the NBA and NFL soon?

BIG · Mar 16, 2005

Nothing new,I live next door to quite a few of these guys,actually. Anyone who's been to my place know the deal.

BIG-

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