Is buying a Caterham Seven as an everyday car and a track car reasonable?

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Neon Night Rider
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I definitely know I can buy one, but I just wanted to ask others who know more about the Caterham Seven. I found this picture of one with a top on it and thought it'd really be an awesome everyday car (because I wouldn't have to worry about rain or other elements) as well as an excellent track car:

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I just want some opinions (especially from those who are British)!
 

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I'd bet nruva will love to talk to you about one

I really don't know much about them, they're nice cars, I'm not sure if I care for the styling but if they handle just like a lotus I wouldn't be able to put the car down.
 

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no, there's nothing practical about that thing. sure it's a good car to have just for like collector purposes, and for racing as it's fast as fuck. but a car like that isn't what i'd call an every day car. but it is fucking cool. i'd say screw it and get a 1958 corvette. but that's cause i love that body style.
 

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I'd be scared as shit to drive that thing around and expose it to the morons of the world. Very nice looking though.
 

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Woah, never thought I'd see this thread here. Heh, yes, I am a huge Lotus fan boy and have run the idea of owning a Caterham for a while now. I've gone back and forth on this for years (probably about 7, oddly enough) and even though I still don't think I'm ready for one, it's a car I always think about owning.

They are really easy cars to maintain, but they do need regular service and things are going to go wrong on a performance car like this. Most owners I've spoken with say it does have an operators expense... meaning you will be working on it frequently, however none of them seem to mind. This is really a do it yourself car though, and a great car to own if you love working under the hood.

The tops are very good at keeping the rain out, they have pop in doors and the roof works better than you would probably think by looking at it. Though the roof can be sort of a pain to but on, literally. It's got a ton of little snaps (at least the models I've seen... some newer models may be similar to the wrangler's roof) that just wear your hand out as you put the thing on. There is also a tiny trunk that you can store the roof and maybe a back pack or two in, but space is really not something the Caterham has.

There is no stereo, but you wouldn't be able to hear it anyway, so who cares. This car is loud! Not like wow that car is loud, loud... like HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OR ANYTHING ANYMORE, loud. But I think that is some of it's charm. Starting up a 7 in a parking garage (like on the third floor of the one at my work for instance) makes car alarms go off, people jump around in fear, and I'd imagine horses go nuts somewhere (birds clear trees, etc, etc). It has a character, but this is not a subtle car. Luckily it has the looks and performance to make you both look better as you leave said garage ;)

Handling is amazing, the car will corner at incredible speeds. I was actually reading an owners account of a problem he had with his seven many years ago. He called up the dealer and said that his breaks were over heating once in a while and were causing him problems. The dealer said... oh, try not to break so much while cornering. Sure enough he tried it and was amazed at just how fast and controlled the car could take the turns. These cars are amazing handlers and have bested even the Exige on the track.

Suspensions a mixed bag. The De Dion suspension is supposedly very nice, but the older suspensions will leave you a little sore. There are, however, plenty of mods (like spring loaded seats) to smooth out the ride if that is a concern.

I could probably go on and on, but your question was much more to the point. Is this a practical daily driver? Well, no, it's a toy, a very very fun toy, but a toy none the less. I think you could pull it off, but it would not be the most practical thing you could drive. Hell even the Corvette has a bigger trunk and more interior space. It's a great car, the deprecation is just about nil on them, so they are a decent investment as well... and there is something amazing about driving in a completely open roadster. However, I think it will be hard to fit the 7 into your daily life unless you really don't think you'll ever need a trunk, or the security of doors and a roof, or the ability to carry more than another person... or not frighten children when you start it up... and don't mind losing your hearing... etc, etc ;)

Honestly, great cars... closest thing to a motorcycle you'll find with four wheels. Raw, real, true car... I was actually talking to someone about the 7 tonight, she loved the raw old roadsters and had always liked Lotus and the like. It's true, there is something pure and beautiful in it's simple design. No, it's not practical, but if you want one, chances are you are like me and just don't care.

(then again, I'll probably end up with an Eclat or Europa if I could ever find one that actually runs.)
 
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What is the price on one of those puppies?

Oh, and there is no way in hell that thing could qualify as a solid, all around, everyday car.
 

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ORPHEUS said:
What is the price on one of those puppies?

Oh, and there is no way in hell that thing could qualify as a solid, all around, everyday car.

Depends on what you want, starting price of a kit is around $18,000, but toy them up and they can run in the low forties. I'd say a typical seven would set you back around $30K, and it would be very nice at that price.
 

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Your actually serious about getting that bad boy? Wow, out of all the cars that you have mentioned in the past, this was the most surprising thing I ever heard you say. I thought you would of gone with an Evo or a C6 Z06, but a Caterham 7, thats just surprising. I know nothing about the car so I can't really help you there although nruva did a good job of telling you how they are like.

Even if you do get it, the insurance on it will be painful, since it's mainly a track car and not practical at all. Might want to keep that in mind.
 

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nice if you can get on with the styling, but how much more would a 2nd hand Elise cost over there?
 

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skam said:
nice if you can get on with the styling, but how much more would a 2nd hand Elise cost over there?
The Elise has only been introduced in America this current model year (2005) and my friend Mike who wants to buy an Elise says right now the asking price is like 20k over sticker (which the MSRP is supposed to be around $39k U.S.).
 

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Get an Esprit S4 instead.

PS- who in the hell desires to own an Elan ?
 

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come on man, do not buy that shit, the ammount you spend in a few years on upkeep, you could payoff any other car, or buy a 2nd car, and if you ever need to buy parts, you're probably going to be having them shipped from overseas, that = big cash, you really wanna drive that thing to walmart and look for a parking space? get an acura rsx-s or something. ;)
 

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Abasuto said:
Get an Esprit S4 instead.

PS- who in the hell desires to own an Elan ?

Well the Elan is plain looking, especially compared to the Esprit, but the Elan does handle very well. Though, being a front engine car kind of misses the point of Lotus completely.
 

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I'm sorry, but buying a Super 7 as an "everyday" car has to be one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard.

Great car, yes, practical? Hell no.
 

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buy a model toy caterham 7. Buy a real Hummer with tinted windows to scare off Chavs and small children.
 

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Great choice!!!!!
You should go for the K serie engine model. This is a Rover engine and it lasts well from what I have heard. Avoid all the R something since the engine has to be remade every 13000 miles!!!!
Avoid tuned cars since the stock caterham is more than you can handle!!!

I'm also interested in buying such a car as trackday tool so could you please let me by PM your impressions if you buy one?
 

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Robert said:
Great choice!!!!!
You should go for the K serie engine model. This is a Rover engine and it lasts well from what I have heard. Avoid all the R something since the engine has to be remade every 13000 miles!!!!
Avoid tuned cars since the stock caterham is more than you can handle!!!

I'm also interested in buying such a car as trackday tool so could you please let me by PM your impressions if you buy one?

In America we only get the Ford Ztec and etc engines... however the cheapy ford engine is still a very powerful little sucker, and runs on 87 octane gas.
 

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Could you post some specs of the US cars since Caterham France doesn't have Ztec engine for seven?
 

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Tarma said:
I'm sorry, but buying a Super 7 as an "everyday" car has to be one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard.

Great car, yes, practical? Hell no.
Well, I am going to keep my Civic Si (for maybe doing grocery shopping and that's pretty much it). I normally don't carry that much with me if anything so I figure that I can get a Caterham Seven, but still hang onto the Civic Si just in case I ever need it.
 

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If you have the money then buy what ever you want, you only live once. I would just have a cheap back up car to.
 

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hey neoX7, if the car in your sig had a pussy i'd rag it senseless. They should ban you for showing xxx hardcore car porn. Any more pics of that mighty sexyy bitch of a car?
 

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nruva said:
Well the Elan is plain looking, especially compared to the Esprit, but the Elan does handle very well. Though, being a front engine car kind of misses the point of Lotus completely.

I've always thought they look like a Capri. Never paid them any attention or looked into them before, any idea what the maintenance/repair cost run on them ?
 
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