Matrix?

What was your whole impression with the matrix sequels? Did they live up to your expectations? Discuss.

Matrix>Revolutions>Reloaded

are you kidding? reloaded was way better than revolutions, there was only one decent fight in revolutions (the club scene).

IMO they should have made the matrix a stand alone movie, because the 2 crappy sequels really deflated most of the 1st movies reputation. ignore the 2 other movies, much like the highlander series.

DashK said:

IMO they should have made the matrix a stand alone movie, because the 2 crappy sequels really deflated most of the 1st movies reputation. ignore the 2 other movies, much like the highlander series.

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Much Like starwars......

norton9478 said:

Much Like starwars......

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It's just, you ignore the crappy prequels

To discuss the flaws and cinematic catastrophe that are the two Matrix sequels would require nearly as much literature as has been written about how "good" the trilogy is supposedly.


In otherwords, they're terrible.

I liked reloaded.

buttasuperb said:

I liked reloaded.

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I did too. It was a decent enough movie, especially the fight scenes and the incredible chase scene on the highway. That made the movie for me.

Revolutions on the other hand sucked balls.

genjiglove said:

I did too. It was a decent enough movie, especially the fight scenes and the incredible chase scene on the highway. That made the movie for me.

Revolutions on the other hand sucked balls.

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The rave scene made the movie for me keanu reeves and carrie anne moss the two last people i want to see getting it on

Reloaded was entertaining.

I liked the first one when it came out but no I can't stand any of them.

However I will admit that the second one has some very impressive action sequences.

And how come people are so quick to kiss the Watchowzki bros. asses and the actual action choregrapher Yuen Wo Ping gets no credit at all? The man is a fucking living legend!

I thought that the Matrix trilogy was all that, the coolest thing ever, the pinnacle of thought-provoking entertainment.

Then I watched Ghost in the Shell

Then I lost all interest in the Matrix trilogy.

Masanume Shirow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Wachowski Brothers.
'Nuff said.

Revolution made me laugh...

Matrix = Overrated

I dug the first Matrix. The sequels were excellent comedies.

I like to take movies for what they are.

The first Matrix was very cool little action movie with some cool ideas used in it.

Revolutions and Reloaded were bad for what they were. They were boring actions movies.

They also made the mistake of trying on philosophy and not giving us easily understandable resolutions.

The reason why I think I love the Star wars movies (all of them) is because they are really very simple, and they speak to the child in me.

Matrix Sequals are just too ambitious and I don't think the target audience gives a shit about all of that psuedo philosophy.

Reloaded is alright as a no-brainer action movie.
Revolutions is..ho-hum. Boring.
Whatever philosophical pretenses the first movie had got abandoned pretty quickly in the sequels.

Pill said:

I like to take movies for what they are.

The first Matrix was very cool little action movie with some cool ideas used in it.

Revolutions and Reloaded were bad for what they were. They were boring actions movies.

They also made the mistake of trying on philosophy and not giving us easily understandable resolutions.

The reason why I think I love the Star wars movies (all of them) is because they are really very simple, and they speak to the child in me.

Matrix Sequals are just too ambitious and I don't think the target audience gives a shit about all of that psuedo philosophy.

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Pretty much it, I thought the Matrix was a good sci-fi in its own right, the quasi religious tones in the sequels were too much to cope with, and apart from that, the results were rather messy, granted with some rather good special effects.

I remember being bored by the 2nd, and saw the 3rd one for the sake of it.

Animatrix is better than both.

Baseley09 said:

Pretty much it, I thought the Matrix was a good sci-fi in its own right, the quasi religious tones in the sequels were too much to cope with, and apart from that, the results were rather messy, granted with some rather good special effects.

I remember being bored by the 2nd, and saw the 3rd one for the sake of it.

Animatrix is better than both.

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when neo dies in revolutions a cross is glowing on his chest. Is that blatant religious symbolism or what? I thought the rest of revolutions was ok the highlights being the battle for zion, the final showdown, and the club shoot out.

Reloaded was probably better than i made it out to be. It was so hyped that i guess i was expecting too much. I own the dvd and upon further inspection you can see that in the burly brawl smith's clones don't look like him and always have their backs facing the camera to hide it. Felt that was a little sloppy.

As much as I loved the first film when I saw it I now retroactively hate it having seen the ridiculously boring sequals it spawned. The reason the original was so damn good was because it hinted at the philosophy that was the back-story without preaching. The theme of reality verus perception was prevalent in the flick, but it wasn't overstated. There were multiple times where you were reminded or the thought behind the axiom was explained in a bit more detail, but it was never forced. There was also always something going on in the next few minutes to pull the audience back into the action of the movie after a scene of philosophical exploration.

The next two films mistook the audenience's intrigue in the original movie as a whole for interest in, specifically, the philosophy. This was a tragic blunder for the writers because they seemingly dusted off the soap box and went on a preaching spree for the next 5 hours giving the common movie goer, who has more vested interest in quality action and the characters' interpersonal relationships than extended pontification, nothing of merrit for his time and money spent. They also abandoned those who are interested in many of the postulations made as they rarely expounded on any of them since continuing the argument would likely pass the point where a disinterested party would just tune everything out. Thus giving neither audience anything substantial in the end.

My basic interest in philosophy can both aid and hinder my enjoyment of movies that touch on the subject matter I appreciate in print. On a positive note I can sit back and enjoy a good, solid argument when presented in a profound method even if it is a distinct rarity. I find it highly amusing when any media source conveys a thought provoking theory that I can contemplate for a period of time. Conversely, when a writer gets a bit too full of himself and tries to bombard us with multiple aspects of philosophy so as to enlighten the viewer who normally wouldn't bother with such thoughts, but condenses all the information into snipits so most don't just get up and leave out of boredom, I get irritable to say the least. I hope after these 2 awful movies Hollywood can agree to leave enlightenment to the scholars and refocus on the drama and comedy which is their bread and butter.

I've only seen the first one (and the Animatrix).

I thought it was good until he flew at me at the end.

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Tom Wopat said:

I've only seen the first one (and the Animatrix).

I thought it was good until he flew at me at the end.

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My god there is still someone uncontaminated. If you enjoyed the original what ever you do, do not watch the sequels unless you are prepared to lower your overall standards of the matrix franchise!

I don't see all 3 movies as a trilogy.

I see Matrix as one of the best Hollywood movies the 90's gave us.

As far as Reloaded and Revolutions goes, I see them as alternate universes, just like Ultimate Spider man to The Amazing spiderman.

Dont' get me wrong, both reloaded and revolutions are good films (personally prefer revolutions>reloaded). I just don't see them as a trilogy.

My $0.02:

Matrix = Excellent

Reloaded = Not as good as the 1st one, but still, very good.

Revolutions = HUGE DISSAPPOINTMENT. IMHO, a horrible ending to the Trilogy.

I like the first 2 movies pretty evenly, but the only redeeming factors of the third movie to me were the scenes with smith (real smith, not bane smith). That means about 20 minutes of that third movie was all I enjoyed. The rest bored me to tears.

Matt