Neo geo cd collection,all brand new-but RIGHT quote?Different opinions shown

Originally posted by BlackSpy:
<strong>Yes, I bet the reserve is high, but then if I made a big effort to get all these games I wouldn't want to let them go too easily.</strong><hr></blockquote>


I agree.
That may be a reason for a high reserve put

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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>Looking at those point,I already took into consideration:
-great number of titles to make up a complete collection
-all brand new but it is quite easy to find a good number of neo geo cds brand new and some are pretty cheap
-some titles brand new like ironclad or breakers are valuable but how much?
Maybe brand new ironclad is worth 2 times a used ironclad,i.e. $500..more,less?
-I got VERY different quotes from different experienced collectors.
$3000 minimum or $6000-7000 maximum.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I wonder myself why you didn't ask me. I can tell you how much I paid for my collection + how high the costs would be to make one (approximately) now!

It's completely uninteresting how much some crazy collectors would pay for certain games. What counts is the minimum amount you have to pay for each game. Surely every person wants to get the games as cheap as possible.

It can take years to get an idea of the real value and rarity of some (sealed) games. It's difficult because prices and availability of software changes from time to time and from region to region.

But it's possible. Well, you should know because you also seem very interested in videogame prices!

shousa

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Originally posted by shousa:
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I wonder myself why you didn't ask me. I can tell you how much I paid for my collection + how high the costs would be to make one (approximately) now!

It's completely uninteresting how much some crazy collectors would pay for certain games. What counts is the minimum amount you have to pay for each game. Surely every person wants to get the games as cheap as possible.

It can take years to get an idea of the real value and rarity of some (sealed) games. It's difficult because prices and availability of software changes from time to time and from region to region.

But it's possible. Well, you should know because you also seem very interested in videogame prices!

shousa</strong><hr></blockquote>

I asked in the other topic.
I just figured that you didn't want to tell amount of the reserve,like MANY sellers do.

I don't deal in neo geo cd games.

Got very different quotations,sure thing.
And interesting thing in my opinion.

Neo geo cd is not really a collector's item like neo geo home cart.
Difficult foresee ending price of your auction but interesting.IF pics and description of all the games were up of course,rendering the auction worth the attention of serious collectors.

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Originally posted by BlackSpy:
<strong>Yes, I bet the reserve is high, but then if I made a big effort to get all these games I wouldn't want to let them go too easily.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I made the decision to try selling my collection now. If I find someone who really wants the games and pays me a good price he'll get it.

The reserve price is high because of many facts. It's indeed even higher than the price I want for my collection.

This has many reasons. But that's another story.

What I'd really like to hear is your opinion about the following: I thought about the real price I should sell my collection for a long time. I know how much I had to pay for everything. Games, shipping and transaction costs when I bought them, etc.

But what should I do with the time and effort I spent building this collection. Someone could buy my games without doing something for it. It sounds a bit crazy, but I was uncomfortable with the thought that I spent so much time in hunting games, finding the "natural" value of some games, etc. and another lazy guy with minor knowledge of Japanese videogames gets my collection in only few seconds. It could sort of hurt me. I don't really know why.

Can I transfer that time into money and add it to my collections value?

I hope you understand what I want to express. My English doesn't seem to be too well today...

shousa

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Originally posted by snkneogeousaCTH:
<strong>I'd say 4500... I mean, sure, you could say ironclad SHOULD be worth 800, but honestly, would anybody here (or anywhere else) pay that much for that game?</strong><hr></blockquote>


Even with Ironclad at $800,I can't see where the other $3500+ are coming from.

I mean,a lot of neo geo cds can be found brand new very cheap and few are the rarer games on neo geo cd format.

Maybe you can tell your paying a premium to have a complete collection but that's totally another matter.

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Originally posted by snkneogeousaCTH:
<strong>I'd say 4500... I mean, sure, you could say ironclad SHOULD be worth 800, but honestly, would anybody here (or anywhere else) pay that much for that game?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ok, let me tell you something. In 2000 I got my first new Choutetsu Brikinger from a German. He bought it in Hongkong. He runs the Otaku Most Wanted store now.

I wanted to sell it. The best offer I got was US-$300 in 2001. I said ok. After that I never heard something from this guy again. It was a collector from Belgium. Maybe he's on this forum too. I don't know.

Maybe time has changed and you can get US-$300 or even more easily nowadays. But I doubt that anyone will ever pay 400, 500 or even more dollars for this game in brandnew condition.

Just my two cents.

shousa

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>Like I said in the other post, these complete CD collections happen all the time on yahoo japan - they may not be as perfect as Shousa makes his out to be, but regardless, they never fetch over $1000. That's there though. People in Japan also don't pay more than $100 for a KoF before 2000, and Metal Slug for less than $1000, et cetera, et cetera. So say you buy a complete collection of CDs, you'd need to ship it. Shipping roughly 100 CDs would cost something around $500 by EMS. Maybe $300 by sea, if you don't mind waiting a long time.

If you want to break apart the values piecewise, then you're no longer talking about a complete collection's market value, but the value of the parts. And in selling Neo CD, or most other video games, the whole is not greater than the sum of the parts.</strong><hr></blockquote>


there is no way 100 CD's cost more than 120 ems. I have had 1 boxed aes... 3 unboxed aes, 1 cdz, 5 cd's and 8 compelte carts shipped in 1 box for $120 EMS.

†B†V†

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Originally posted by EvilWasabi:
<strong>Like I said in the other post, these complete CD collections happen all the time on yahoo japan - they may not be as perfect as Shousa makes his out to be, but regardless, they never fetch over $1000.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I totally agree.

But my collection consists of new software. The auctions you're refering to mainly include used games. Sometimes even 100% used junk. That's the truth.

The only auction I can remember in which over 60% of the games were new went over 200000 Yen. It was in 2001. And that's obviously more than US-$1000.

Anyway, you're right that (almost) complete Neo Geo CD collections were offered a lot in the last three years on Yahoo! Japan Auctions.

shousa

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Originally posted by Bluevoodu:
<strong>there is no way 100 CD's cost more than 120 ems. I have had 1 boxed aes... 3 unboxed aes, 1 cdz, 5 cd's and 8 compelte carts shipped in 1 box for $120 EMS.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just for your reference: shipping costs for all Neo Geo CD games would be only slightly over US-$60. Registered and insured, but not express shipping.

But a whole set + controllers + console systems with EMS can easily cost over 200 Dollars.

shousa

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Originally posted by shousa:
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Just for your reference: shipping costs for all Neo Geo CD games would be only slightly over US-$60. Registered and insured, but not express shipping.

But a whole set + controllers + console systems with EMS can easily cost over 200 Dollars.

shousa</strong><hr></blockquote>


All 3 of the AES systems shipped to me were complete w/out boxes. The 1 with box was totally complete. So.. there were at least 4-5 old style controllers. 4 AC adaptors....etc.
$120.0 from Japan

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Originally posted by FTL:
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I asked in the other topic.
I just figured that you didn't want to tell amount of the reserve,like MANY sellers do.

I don't deal in neo geo cd games.

Got very different quotations,sure thing.
And interesting thing in my opinion.

Neo geo cd is not really a collector's item like neo geo home cart.
Difficult foresee ending price of your auction but interesting.IF pics and description of all the games were up of course,rendering the auction worth the attention of serious collectors.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I told everyone who has asked that if the reserve prices won't be met I'll tell all reserves when auctions have ended.

But why is Neo Geo CD not a collectors item? You mean there seem to be more homecart collectors out there than CD collectors? I'd agree on that.

The ending price of my auction doesn't matter because many people won't bid (because there are no pictures) and the chances are high that I'll sell the collection outside ebay anyway.

But to continue with the topic of this thread. A complete new soft Neo Geo CD collection has a value of at least US-$3000. But it takes years because you have to wait for the right moment to get certain games for a fair price. <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />

And this is the reason why I won't sell my collection for only 3000 Dollars. <img src="graemlins/drool2.gif" border="0" alt="[Drool 2]" />

shousa

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Originally posted by Lord Wolfgang Krauser:
<strong>I wouldn't push more then twenty five hundred for a sealed cd collection. Taken into account the games are original sealed and contain all available english and japanese variations. I am CD collector as a side thing, as the cd has a certain charm.
To many neo cd's are worthless.

However, they are very low on the collectivity scale. If you check ebay you will see that mostly gamers are interested in neo cd's.

Games to note:

Ironclad
English 96 releases* KOF 96, Etc.
Okidashi Zintrick
RB2/KOF 98/MS2 ENGLISH (These games are hard to get)
Older fighters, sealed and english can be just as big a problem.

Alot of people argue that neo cd's are cheap and a waste of time because they are easy to get. Truth is some english titles are near damn impossible to find. MS2 fetches a high amount on ebay. Also, a KOF 99 English (being the final neo cd release, and a well worth the while release at that) is also a bit hard to get sealed and english.

Ninja Masters and LB2? Same thing. I cannot even remember the time I saw a LB2 English list, and Simone and quite a few others have not seen a NM english neo cd. (I could of sworn I saw one at JPVG a few years back...) Some games are just not and easy find, so if you find a english ff2 with the spine I reccomend holding onto it as I am certain not many were made..

And the cover art for a LB neo cd is just beautiful, I would own it for that picture alone.
NEO CD is a great alternative for those who are patient and do not have the money for HC stuff.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I learned from LWK a lot about hard to find and impossible to find neo geo cds.
Being a neo geo cd collector he pointed out VERY well what the bottom line could be.

Some english neo geo cd are really impossible to find,let alone to find them complete with spine card or EVEN brand new!

You can reply many are interested only in jap games but main point for me is that you can acquire every jap neo geo cd game with time and money,maybe much money.

A complete english neo geo cd collection,BRAND NEW8!!!!) would be worth 2 times or more a japanese one under RARITY 's perspective.

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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>It seems to me at the end all comes down to the premium to pay to meet seller's price.

I remember that when dr neo geo tried to sell his almost complete home cart collection for $40000,all took shots at him,telling him he was mad since market value was about the half of his asking.

He claimed that all the:
effort
shipping prices
time spent finding the titles

were worth his asking price.

So,now it is pretty clear to me.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What of chamane? Didn't he come up with a complete neo cd collection, both english and japanese variants? Enlighten me as I have not seen this person post in some time.
Concerning 40 K. If a Euro Kizuna was in there along with every other cart in brand new condition, english and japanese I would see that selling.

As fans/gamers/collectors we all at one point or another drop more money then we should on some carts. I know I sure as hell have, and my collection from the three formats I support will soon pass the 100 mark. (thought it did already)

One thing though: I'd pay more for english neo cd's concerning certain titles then I would for mvs kits. I mean its like a Lamborghini Diablo, if you want it.. Just get it. Those cars were what 300 K? Now you can get em for like 145. Neo is endlessly "fluctuating" like silver. Just buy or sell when you feel its time and the price is right.

I got a english new Gowcaizer for 300 US and its still higher then that, and that was what? A year ago. Now telegames uk prices are so ridiculous its almost funny.

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Originally posted by FTL:
<strong>I learned from LWK a lot about hard to find and impossible to find neo geo cds.
Being a neo geo cd collector he pointed out VERY well what the bottom line could be.

Some english neo geo cd are really impossible to find,let alone to find them complete with spine card or EVEN brand new!

You can reply many are interested only in jap games but main point for me is that you can acquire every jap neo geo cd game with time and money,maybe much money.

A complete english neo geo cd collection,BRAND NEW8!!!!) would be worth 2 times or more a japanese one under RARITY 's perspective.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I did not know that some English Neo Geo CD are very rare. Sounds interesting to me. Too bad I don't collect non-Japanese stuff.

I remember English Neo Geo CD games with an obi too. Do they all include one?

shousa

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Originally posted by FTL:
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I learned from LWK a lot about hard to find and impossible to find neo geo cds.
Being a neo geo cd collector he pointed out VERY well what the bottom line could be.

Some english neo geo cd are really impossible to find,let alone to find them complete with spine card or EVEN brand new!

You can reply many are interested only in jap games but main point for me is that you can acquire every jap neo geo cd game with time and money,maybe much money.

A complete english neo geo cd collection,BRAND NEW8!!!!) would be worth 2 times or more a japanese one under RARITY 's perspective.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Of my collection, and even the stuff I have. Its a scatter. I could never come up with a straight line of english titles. All my fatal fury's are english, and of the doubles and some triples of games I have.. There all japanese cd's.
See with me, I get stuff in bulk concerning cd. Its the best way to go.

Even when buying used neo cd's you rarely get em with the original NG logo on the front case. I am glad they had that insignia, so you know when you are getting a case swap.
I have NOT once seen a english ff neo cd. I would appreciate just a picture of that 80's flashback cover the English HC sported.

Down in this area the closest to a local neo source is gamestar in las tunas, and back in 96/97 when I became interested in neo cd thats where I got my stuff.
Thanks to Neolord and quite a few others I have acquired alot of the hard to get english cd's.. I have like three or so copies of WH 2 JET. Thats gotta be one of the most common neo cd games.

EVEN my collection has many more japanese cd's then english. Its almost as if english cd's got eaten up at one time or another. Its like the english neo cd's just dissapeared.
I'm just glad I got a English MS2 neo cd. That is a nightmare to get on ebay, and ebay is the number one cause of inflation.

I would be more interested if alot of these cd's were the english versions and the shipping or average price didnt outweigh the price of the game. In example. FFS Japanese neo cd at 9.99 bin and a shipping of 12. No thanks...

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