Known copies of AES Neo Turfmasters and Ninja Masters

driftout625 · Jan 1, 2005

I was wondering roughly what sort of numbers of US Neo Turfmasters and US Ninja Masters are known to exist . Given the vagaries of Neo Geo production numbers it's pure speculation but is interesting nonetheless. Did anyone see these games available in any stores in 1996 when they were released and how much did they cost when released ?

WGolly · Jan 1, 2005

they probably cost anywhere from $150-$250 when released. i guess noone cared back then.

TonK · Jan 1, 2005

There were 1000+ U.S. copies produced for each game.

$269 brand new from SNK back in 1997

Electroman · Jan 1, 2005

WGolly said:
they probably cost anywhere from $150-$250 when released. i guess noone cared back then.

This still boggles my mind to no end that in just years after, they'd fetch so much money later on.

Boggles my f'in mind. :help:

TonK · Jan 1, 2005

Electroman said:
This still boggles my mind to no end that in just years after, they'd fetch so much money later on.

Boggles my f'in mind.

NeoTurfMasters is a CLASSIC golf game, and one of my favorite Neo-Geo games.

Its highly sought after because:

A: Its RARE

B: Its fun as hell

C: Its just a beautiful cart.

Same goes with Ninja Masters.

Mystic_flame · Jan 1, 2005

Electroman said:
This still boggles my mind to no end that in just years after, they'd fetch so much money later on.

Boggles my f'in mind.

Its not so hard. If enough people want 1 thing then demand goes up. Well after so many years the numbers went from 1000 to a hand full. Now out of that hand full how many do you see for sale every day? Now the people that truely want it will start coughing up extra money because they are obsessed. Later on another collector will be willing to cough up even more money. How do you think Kizuna fetched $12500? Someone wanted it that bad and was willing to pay. Its still sheer speculation how many are on the market, but rest assured that another person is willing to cough up $13000 next time because next time might be in another 2-5 years.

Neo Bomber Man · Jan 1, 2005

It can also be argued that the national gaming "community" was and always is better connected in Japan than over here, so any copy some random owner wishes to sell has a greater chance of making it to the market and in a more competitive environment on top of that. Here people sell Neo Geo carts for $15 at garage sales and flea markets or dump them at pawn shops because they don't know any better, or they just keep them locked up in the garage for not wanting to toss $260 games as they paid for them, but not knowing where to sell, so the number of copies that actually makes its way to the national / on-line market is potentially much smaller than what exists out there. Not to say the above scenario does not occur in Japan but I digress.

What has been said by the others above is certainly true though.

Kiel · Jan 1, 2005

Ninja Master's was $150 when it came out here. :crying:

SHO · Jan 1, 2005

before i bought my neo i didnt even know where to buy one

ebay show me the way...........

neogeofl · Jan 1, 2005

I remember them being in the $300.00 range back in 1997 at Game Express (I think that was the name of the place by Madison Square Garden) in NYC. That is where I bought all my Neo Stuff before I moved to Florida. NTM is one awesome game!

NeoCverA · Jan 1, 2005

Theres like 3 fuckers out there that have 80% of the copies and keep the prices up for those carts.

At least thats my theory. Rich as fart neo fanboys hoarding 80% of the rare carts to keep prices up. They constantly monitor these boards and E-gay to make sure the balance is kept tilted their way.

The truth is out there fuckers!

Mystic_flame · Jan 1, 2005

NeoCverA said:
Theres like 3 fuckers out there that have 80% of the copies and keep the prices up for those carts.

At least thats my theory. Rich as fart neo fanboys hoarding 80% of the rare carts to keep prices up. They constantly monitor these boards and E-gay to make sure the balance is kept tilted their way.

The truth is out there fuckers!

I dont know what youre talking about? :eek:

NOT MY ROT!!! HE WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING :drool:

driftout625 · Jan 3, 2005

Production runs for the English versions of each cart could have been 500 to 1000 , but how many were actually purchased ? Let's speculate that anywhere from 10 to 50 per cent were sold , putting potentially 50 to 500 in the market. Unsold units may have been sent back to SNK Japan for re-labelling for the JP market . Has anyone seen a double stickered Big Tournament Golf or JP Ninja Masters ?

abasuto · Jan 3, 2005

Just curious, by contrast, anyone know how many copies of SS2 were made ? Each in US and JP.

One of the most praised Neo games of all time, plus beautiful artwork. Still find them new and sealed for under $50.

Prons · Jan 3, 2005

TonK said:
NeoTurfMasters is a CLASSIC golf game, and one of my favorite Neo-Geo games.

Its highly sought after because:

A: Its RARE

B: Its fun as hell

C: Its just a beautiful cart.

Same goes with Ninja Masters.

Neo Turf Masters, if it's anything like the NeoGeo Pocket Color version is DAMN good game, and is DAMN underappreciated.

Tiptonium · Jan 3, 2005

Both games are dynamite and I'd love to own the original home version of each. Perhaps someday the prices for each will decline. uhhh.... I can dream. For now I am quite honestly satisfied with my project versions of each of these games as well as the original and reasonably priced MVS versions.

galfordo · Jan 3, 2005

Abasuto said:
Just curious, by contrast, anyone know how many copies of SS2 were made ? Each in US and JP.

One of the most praised Neo games of all time, plus beautiful artwork. Still find them new and sealed for under $50.

I'd agree that the artwork on Sam Sho II is spectacular - one of the best inserts of all time IMO.

I'm not sure about the production for the US copies - I'd guess somewhere around the 2000 mark or so.

As for JPN copies .... well, it's safe to say that a huge shitload were produced. I'd guess that over 5000 were produced - at a bare minimum. For them to still be both plentiful and available new today really says something about the huge number that was produced.

As for NM and NTM, the numbers quoted (500-1000) seem about right to me. But I'm also sort of curious about how many of these were actually sold. I seriously doubt these titles sold out - there just wasn't any demand at the time of their release.

driftout625 · Jan 5, 2005

I suspect very few import stores stocked these obscure (at the time) titles...the NeoGeo was not a good money spinner for import stores around the time when 2nd and 3rd generation PSX titles were getting a lot of attention. I know that some import stores got burnt with unwanted Neo carts in the mid 90s and stopped dealing in Neo carts . I know of one import store in Sydney , Australia , that kept buying Neo carts until 1999 (they sold Euro Kizuna Encounter and Ultimate 11). I spoke to the owner and he said there were only 2 people interested in buying Neo carts during this time ! I checked out his remaining stock in 2000 (he had new LB2 , new RB2 , new Viewpoint and a lot of common titles).

It wouldn't surprise me if only 500 US Neo Turfmasters were made and only 50 to 100 were sold. It seems to be hard to find in mint condition as it's a very playable title . More Ninja Masters might have been sold since most Neo owners were fighting game fans and the Neo is the console of choice for fighting games .

RAINBOW PONY · Jan 5, 2005

am i the only one who thinks ninja masters is just a step above a shit fighting game? i've only played the rom, but still...

T_Smallz · Jan 5, 2005

DashK said:
am i the only one who thinks ninja masters is just a step above a shit fighting game?

No, you're not the only one... I'd agree with that statement.

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