DS.....GBA.....GBC, GB???????

Tung Fu ru

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I own a DS and noticed soon after I got it that it only plays DS and GBA games. A Game Boy Color or original Game Boy cartridge doesn't fit. I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a possible way to play one on your DS. I noticed the reason that the carts don't fit is because the GBA games a a little indentation on the sides of the cart around the connector. So I'm wondering if someone could just file the corners down or something. Has anyone tried this or looked into this? If it could work, would the screen be all fucked up? Does anyone have any ideas?

I just want to play my GBC Zelda games on my DS!!!!
 

Solidus Snake

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GBA games only. The ability to play GB games wasn't included to keep price down and not to kill off the GBA as the DS is meant to be a 3rd pillar for Nintendo.
 

soulthug

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Solidus Snake said:
GBA games only. The ability to play GB games wasn't included to keep price down and not to kill off the GBA as the DS is meant to be a 3rd pillar for Nintendo.

That was like when my dad got me a us n64 game. It was cruisin world. I filed the corner and it worked fine, but the game was so crap i filed it further, so it looked like me breaking it was an accident. Then the sad bastard got me another copy. Gah.
 
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Tung Fu ru said:
I own a DS and noticed soon after I got it that it only plays DS and GBA games. A Game Boy Color or original Game Boy cartridge doesn't fit. I was wondering if anyone knows if there is a possible way to play one on your DS. I noticed the reason that the carts don't fit is because the GBA games a a little indentation on the sides of the cart around the connector. So I'm wondering if someone could just file the corners down or something. Has anyone tried this or looked into this? If it could work, would the screen be all fucked up? Does anyone have any ideas?

I just want to play my GBC Zelda games on my DS!!!!

Do yourself a favor and don't believe the conspiracy theory. Nintendo did not exclude GBC to keept he GBA alive. Even on the surface, anyone can tell that's the stupidest suggestion in busienss paranoia history- GBA games don't sell GBA's these days (significantly)

It's a technical problem. See, a GBA's hardware DOESN'T play GBC/GB games. The GBA uses an Arm-7 CPU clocked around 16MHz clocked at 3.3v.

The DS uses am Arm-9 clocked around 60MHz, and an Arm-7 clocked at 33MHz. While the Arm-9 does the 3d graphics and grnt work, the Arm 7 does the 2d graphics and controls the touch screen and wireless.

Hence, it's easy to include GBA backward compatibility, the ARM-9 is there.

The transition fomr the GBA to the GBc was a little messier.

ARM-7 runs at 3.3v. But the Z80 runs at 5v. Unlike the GB/GBC transition, the PSX/PS2 transition, or the GBA/DS transition, when you put a GB/GBC game into a GBA it actually wholly reconfigures the system, bumping the voltage to 5v, the cpu to the z80, and reconfiguring the ports for the link cable.

That's some nasty legacy hardware to include. Nintendo COULDN'T emulate the Z80 since it runs at 5v and therefore neither the Arm-7 or 9 can even read a GB/GBC cart. To include GB/GBC playback, they would need to include a Z80 in addition to a lot of other legacy crap that overall just didn't make sense.

Since Nintendo is likely to stick with similar hardware form here out, it should be easy to keep things multigenerational.
 
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DaffyDuck said:
Don't know if this works nor do I know of anyone who has tried it yet. If you want to be the first let me know if it works. I would not do it unless you have some type of Best Buy replacement plan or something on your DS.



http://www.gamedreamz.com/index.cgi?m=stories&s=read&id=2333

This is a hoax. I repeat HOAX.

Pin 32 is ground...and you're soldering it to ground!

Another of the solders is soldering ANOTHER pin to a ground!

The third sodler is done on chip "NTR-RFU"...in other words, it's done on the RF Modulator and not even on the Arm-7 or 9!

Soldering 3 wires on a DS cannot give it a 5v voltage, nor enable a Z80 CPU which doesn't exist

I repeat, when you put a GB game in a GBA, you're pushing down a physical switch to put it on GB mode.

http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1103175273
http://www.livejournal.com/community/nintendo_ds/81844.html

Please do not spread this retarded hoax.

And if you still aren't convinced, then go try this out on your DS. You've earned it! :envy:
 
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gamejunkie

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Ok just to let everyone here know, I just took the cover off my copy of Wario Blast for game boy. While pressing the contacts together with my finger I could not get the DS to recognise that there was a cart in the slot.
 
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