RGB Battle: Pre 90XXX AES vs. Consolized MVS

I've heard they are both good.

Which has better RGB output?

I had one of these good rgb AES's and the rgb was pretty shit.

My AES is 56XXX, and I think it looks pretty good, I've just never seen a consolized MVS up and running.

I'm sure some folks here have a basis for comparison.

daybona said:

RGB Battle: Pre 90XXX AES vs. Consolized MVS

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Who makes threads with titles like this, seriously?

OMFG HI-RES NERD FUCKFEST WINTER 2004.

I'm feeling the christmas spirit today.

I've had both AES ( various models ) and MVS on Superguns.

The 082xxx model I had a splendid RGB, and to tell if it was superior to the MVS supergun, it is quite relative. Both had a great picture, just a diferent color tone.
I prefered the darker AES one though. Colors seems more "alive". Other than that, the pixels definition was brilliant on either systems.

I now own 2 AES and both have diferent boards/serials. The supposely "worst" ( jap model ) 262xxx one seems to have a better output than my other ( Euro ) 091xxx one.

the MVS will kill an ngh, simply because the RGB on an ngh still goes through the encoder chipset etc,

in my opinion, the MVS will win this every time.

If you do the RGB mod to any AES system (any board revision, they all suck at RGB), then RGB would be identical to the MVS counterpart.

So, if you say "consolized" mvs, reading in that it was modified some way from its original design, then you would need to compare to a modified aes, so in the end, rgb is equal on both platforms.

Jeff

My unit's composite video is as good as my friend's S-Video, his is a very low serial which I guess are the ones good for rgb.

I have one around 20k and the RGB looks pretty much pixel perfect to me, better than any other 16 bit console certainly.

I would have to challenge that statement.

Jeff

kobylka68 said:

My unit's composite video is as good as my friend's S-Video....

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I agree with the master JMKurtz.

Low serialled AES factory composite blows chunks, but higher serialled AES factory composite is improved a lot with brighter colour.

S-Video always trumps composite, in the clarity department, with waaaay less dot crawl and no weird rainbow moire patterns in fog effects, and other grid style patterns. It's the nature of the signal. composite always bleeds, and suiffers from moire artifacts, regardless of how good it is.

S-Vid mods do vary in quality, with an experienced modder like Jeff being able to tune the mod for the board, to make the best signal the board can generate, regardless of serial. I'm still sorting out the variables, for the various lo to hi serialled boards.

It's all about experience of the modder, and the attention paid to quality. I pay attention to quality, and get better with every mod.

Jeff has already figured it all out.

If you're serious about your RGB, and are using an AES, then there's really no reason why you shouldn't have the RGB fix done to your AES - in which case the MVS and AES RGB signals will be identical.

Hrmm.......from my own experience with my low serial NGH Vs MVS RGB quality; they are very close, though I find the NGH is just a little softer, as in slightly less sharp and defined. Almost like it's slightly less focussed. Same intensity and identical colours though.

As has been stated in previous posts, this is likely due to signal degradation or loss related to the encoder chip and or related components on the NGH system. Just makes sense!

Enjoy!

Smith.