PC Game Packaging. >:

syringe · Dec 3, 2004

It's really about time that the PC gaming industry cuts off the remaining idiots without DVD-ROM drives and DVD becomes the single standard medium for PC games. I'm really sick of opening a package and having 4-7 cdrom's to keep track of and it makes installing PC games that much more annoying, it's beginning to become like the games that were shipping on 6+ floppies prior to the consumer introduction of CD-ROM drives.

DVD drives have been standard for what 5 years and yet games are still coming out on cdrom, what's the point? It can't be more efficient from a production standpoint to stamp 5 cdroms instead of one DVD.

What's worse is the limited edition DVD versions. $80 for Half-Life 2 and the luxury of not swapping a dozen disks? gah. Epic pulls the same shit.

It sucks and I fear they're not going to stop until the games start shipping on 8+ CD's.

kafuin_gaira · Dec 3, 2004

/cosign.

ffxi install and reinstall still gives me nightmares.

hell even selling both dvd and multi-cd packs of the same game would be a step in the right direction.

ken_dong · Dec 3, 2004

I agree with everything here...

Soniku · Dec 3, 2004

ken_dong said:
I agree with everything here...

Ditto. Anyone who has the horse power to run any current games would have a DVD-ROM drive anyway.

FeelGood · Dec 3, 2004

i dont have dvd rom. i dont want dvd rom.

if anything multidisk games should ship with the optional dvd install disc.

Lagduf · Dec 3, 2004

Soniku17 said:
Ditto. Anyone who has the horse power to run any current games would have a DVD-ROM drive anyway.

Uh. I don't. Granted my computer is 2 years old. But it runs Doom 3, Battlefield Vietnam, etc rather well.

But i totally agree. Multiple CDs are gay. I'll buy a DVD rom drive when they do start shipping games on DVDs.

syringe · Dec 3, 2004

My 500mhz gateway from back in 1999 had a DVD-ROM drive.

>:

Lagduf said:
Uh. I don't. Granted my computer is 2 years old. But it runs Doom 3, Battlefield Vietnam, etc rather well.

But i totally agree. Multiple CDs are gay. I'll buy a DVD rom drive when they do start shipping games on DVDs.

Freelancer · Dec 3, 2004

Hehe!
Here's yet another instance where the Mac platform comes out on top.
The majority of new Mac game titles from companies like Aspyr already ship DVD-only releases! Call of Duty, Splinter Cell, etc. come on one DVD ROM disc rather than the mess of CDs that are commonplace in the PC gaming scene!

:make_fac:

syringe · Dec 3, 2004

~lol even if most mac games come out on DVD-ROM.

Don't try and pass off the mac as a viable gaming platform. :kekeke

Freelancer said:
Hehe!
Here's yet another instance where the Mac platform comes out on top.
The majority of new Mac game titles from companies like Aspyr already ship DVD-only releases! Call of Duty, Splinter Cell, etc. come on one DVD ROM disc rather than the mess of CDs that are commonplace in the PC gaming scene!

Freelancer · Dec 3, 2004

Scanline said:
~lol even if most mac games come out on DVD-ROM.

Don't try and pass off the mac as a viable gaming platform. :sigh: nobody believes you.

In some ways, the Mac gaming market is better than the PC.
Games may come out later, but by then most of the bugs are worked out and sometimes even expansions will come bundled with the Mac release (ie: Rise of Nations and Ghost Recon). Also, the PC gaming market is riddled with crap...go to CompUSA and check it out yourself. Mac games may be limited in terms of overall library, but most of the good stuff is ported over.

syringe · Dec 3, 2004

Only a few of the bigger titles come over to the Mac.

The selection is meager at best and you miss the majority of good titles as well as most of the crap, not to mention how long you wait in the first place just to get the games you already have.

I have a PowerBook, the mac just isn't a great gaming platform.

Freelancer said:
In some ways, the Mac gaming market is better than the PC.
Games may come out later, but by then most of the bugs are worked out and sometimes even expansions will come bundled with the Mac release (ie: Rise of Nations and Ghost Recon). Also, the PC gaming market is riddled with crap...go to CompUSA and check it out yourself. Mac games may be limited in terms of overall library, but most of the good stuff is ported over.

Cylotron · Dec 3, 2004

ditto. multi-cd packs can piss the hell off

i don't want to be bothered with swapping b.s. when we live in the DVD-ROM age.

:shame:

Freelancer · Dec 3, 2004

Scanline said:
Only a few of the big titles come over to the Mac.

The selection is meager at best and you miss the majority of good titles as well as crap, not to mention how long you wait in the first place just to get the games you already have.

I have a PowerBook, the mac just isn't a great gaming platform.

Of course. All valid points.
I use my Mac mainly for work and for the iLife apps. Games are a nice little extra for me and the limited selection means I spend less. I'm not really a big PC games fan, but I'll dabble with an occassional FPS or RTS from time to time.

syringe · Dec 3, 2004

In general I like apple and their laptops are far and ahead nicer than any Windows based laptops on the Market.

I <3 my [powerbook.

Freelancer said:
Of course. All valid points.
I use my Mac mainly for work and for the iLife apps. Games are a nice little extra for me and the limited selection means I spend less. I'm not really a big PC games fan, but I'll dabble with an occassional FPS or RTS from time to time.

GunstarHero · Dec 3, 2004

Just for fun someone figure out how many 5 1/4 floppies Half-Life 2 would require for my Apple IIE.

not sonic · Dec 3, 2004

Lagduf said:
Uh. I don't. Granted my computer is 2 years old. But it runs Doom 3, Battlefield Vietnam, etc rather well.

But i totally agree. Multiple CDs are gay. I'll buy a DVD rom drive when they do start shipping games on DVDs.

same.

the only way ill have a dvd rom is when i get a dvdrw

Scorpion_ said:
Just for fun someone figure out how many 5 1/4 floppies Half-Life 2 would require for my Apple IIE.

you would still get about 10 disks to start the steam client, and web install the rest.

ferrarimanf355 · Dec 3, 2004

kafuin_gaira said:
/cosign.

ffxi install and reinstall still gives me nightmares.

hell even selling both dvd and multi-cd packs of the same game would be a step in the right direction.

I think that Atari did that with Unreal Tournament 2004. Both the original and Editors Choice versions come in your choice of CD or DVD versions.
Last I checked, the Collectors Edition versions of Half-Life 2 and Medal Of Honor Pacific Assault, and the regular versions of EA's upcoming Lord of the Rings RTS and Everquest 2 all are on DVD's, too. There might be more: those just came off the top of my head. :cool:

FeelGood · Dec 3, 2004

lets turn this into a mac bashing thread.

only thing a mac is is an expensive POS. for the money you spend on your mac you could get ibm that will demolish all in its path. you know what a $3000 winslows system is like? ill hint you it wipes its ass with apples.

Loefye · Dec 3, 2004

FeelGood said:
lets turn this into a mac bashing thread.

only thing a mac is is an expensive POS. for the money you spend on your mac you could get ibm that will demolish all in its path. you know what a $3000 winslows system is like? ill hint you it wipes its ass with apples.

So true...

Macs: Video Editing, Pretty looking case for your girlfriend
PC: Everything else

Hikaru Ichijyo · Dec 3, 2004

The subject line of the thread is a little misleading. I thought this was about how PC games have switched from disgustingly huge boxes to now smaller boxes that are about as tall as a DVD case and about as thick as 3 DVD cases. I'd suggest a title edit but meh...

Anywho, you're post is dead on Scan. I've built/bought a few PCs over the last five years and all but one of them has/had a DVD-ROM drive in them and even then given how cheap DVD-ROM drives have become, I've considered putting one in the machine that currently lacks one. I always did wonder why it's taken so long for DVD-ROM software to emerge on the market considering how long the drives have been available.

I have to wonder how long it will be before a major studio only releases their product on DVD-ROM format only. I can't see EA or Vivendi giving up CD-ROM anytime soon even if the shift to DVD takes foot like it did in the home video market. There's still VHS releases for alot of movies every year even though VHS is all but dead.

Electroman · Dec 4, 2004

For those of you you to who choose to dislike and bash Macs for all the reasons in the posts above is forsaking the same logic why you love a 13 year old game platform that plays games that are 5-10x the price of other systems.

Look in the mirror :cool:

FeelGood · Dec 4, 2004

how are those two in any way related?

on one hand you have a mac. fucking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. shitty selection of games all available on the ibm pc.

on the other hand you have the neo. unmatched for damn near 10 years. exclusive titles out the ass that were all tops in their respective genre.

if you're talking about identical ports in THIS DAY AND AGE then i would agree. no fucking way am i gonna pay $600 for a game i can get for $20. it wasnt always like this however.

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