Latest deal with Makismo

Ok I had a deal with Makismo AKA James McCabe. It was for a sale I had about 2 weeks ago.

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102242

I was selling 18 GAMERS condition cases for $100usd shipped. I clearly stated in the thread that they were Gamers condition and best suited for people with loose carts that just wanted to store their games. James PMs me with the following:

I will take the 18 cases off of your hands for $100 shipped. Please give me your name and address and I will get a money order out ASAP.

Best Regards,

James McCabe

I decide I should PM James and make sure I re-iterate the condition about the cases so I respond with this PM:

James,

I just want to make sure that you understand that these are gamers cases...alot of the trays are cracked and some have vinyl rippling. The ones that dont have cracked trays, are the ones where the plastic was cut too low to cover the top of the insert. I just want to cover everything so that you know what you are getting.

Phillip

If you still want them my address is:

Phillip Haywood
P.O. Box 901
Garden Grove, California
92842-0901

Now while we are sending PMs back and forth .. we are also chatting on AIM. Im explaining to him about case trays being cracked, vinyl rippling, snaplock case plastic being old and dry feeling, plastic too low to properly protect inserts..etc . While constantly reminding him that these arent for collectors and are strictly Gamers condition. This is the last PM I received from him before he sent me the money order:

OK, kool. I have the letter all written out. I will get the $100 in a couple of days and send it to you. By the way, what is wrong with the snap-lock case you are including with the other 17 old-style cases? The snap-lock works OK I hope. I hope the snap isn't broken off.

Also, could you do me a favor? I am being attacked by an idiot by the name of GamersAbyss in the Feedback Forum. I am doing a feedback thread for myself and he has decided to try and ruin my character because I used to praise NGF. He is making it sound like I tricked people into dealing with NGF and then NGF scammed them and it was all my fault. This is just plain silly. The closet I ever got to someone being unhappy with a deal I made on this board would have been with you. Remember the stupid mail service almost losing the boxes I sent you? They sent them to the wrong state I think - idiots. Glad you got them. It is kind of funny that so far no one has jumped on his side. All I want you to do is say that we had a good deal together and that I am an honest guy. Maybe that will help shut up GamersAbyss but I doubt it. Thanks for your time.

Best Regards,

James

James the sends money order out to me promptly. I received his mail order within 4 days and ready his package for shipping. Once his package is shipped (Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation Number), I email him with the tracking number. I also tell James that since he was looking to replace his games in their original cases.. that I would send him a free Near Mint Snaplock to help him out. Well, 5 days passed and I heard nothing from him. I decided to send him an email this morning to inquire if he received his cases and this is the email I rceive in return....needless to say, I was quite surprised:

Hello, I did get the cases. However, I didn't know that a lot of the flaps were messed up and a lot of the case trays were crushed. I remembered you saying that three had bad case trays and you mentioned a couple having bad flaps but about 8 of the cases had damaged flaps and smashed case trays. The 4 cases that weren't cracked were in OK shape. There were 5 cases that had cracked case trays but the flaps were fine and the case trays weren't that bad. The snap-lock wasn't too bad but it needed to be cleaned a lot. I hope to get that snap-lock case soon. I think that will make the deal even. I know you said that the cases weren't in collectable condition but 8 of them aren't usable as they are in my opinion so I don't have any use for them. However, thanks for getting them out to me quickly. Thanks for your time.

Best Regards,

James

Now I'm confused because I know I told him on 4 or 5 different occassions that these cases were NOT ideal for collectors and were best suited for people who had loose carts looking for a cheap solution to store them in. I spent $20 on a Brand New Sturdy Shipping box, Priority Postage w/ Tracking #. Therefore, he received 18 cases for $80. Thats about $4.44 per case. What condition do you expect a Gamers condition case to be in when you are getting 18 for $100 shipped? Not to mention that he's insinuating that I mirepresented my sales thread.... which pissed me off... because it's just like he's saying I scammed him. So I return an email to him:

James,

When we were in AOL, I explained to you that the condition of these were gamers. I went through and told you how many had plastic that were cut too low to fully protect the inserts. I told you how rough the plastic was on the snaplock case (as if the plastic had dried out). I explained to you that the alot of the trays were cracked and that one tray was totally destroyed because it was basically cut in half. Even after you agreed to buy them I sent you a second message verifying to you that these were in no way for collectors and you still wanted them. Luckily, I make copies of every PM and email so that I can quote them when necessary. Remember this:

*Snipped --- This info is already posted above in the 1st post!!

As you can see, I sent you a 2nd PM explaining that these were Gamers condition with cracked trays and vinyl rippling. That way you would know EXACTLY what you were getting before deciding to send your money. The part of your email that really bothers me is this statement:

"I hope to get that snap-lock case soon. I think that will make the deal even. I know you said that the cases weren't in collectable condition but 8 of them aren't usable as they are in my opinion so I don't have any use for them."

I sent you a description via our PM on AOL. I then sent you a PM explaining that these were GAMERS condition. I told you about every aspect of these for all the questions you had. I said that I am supposed to receive a few snap-lock cases and I would send you a Near Mint one when they arrived to me ( Which would be around 2-3 weeks when my contact gets back in town and sends them to me). This was just a freebie on my part (Which I didnt have to offer.. but I did because I knew you were trying to regain some cases for your games.) . So, what do you mean by the FREE snaplock will make the deal EVEN?!?!?!? You got exactly what I described to you. Shipped on the exact day I told you. In a brand new shipping Box with Delivery Confirmation and Priority 3 day delivery. The snaplock is something that you weren't even supposed to get. However, I am a man of my words. As soon as I get the snaplock cases sent to me, I will pick the best one out of the bunch and mail it to you with Delivery Confirmation and Priority Shipping. I will also take pictures of the actual item shipped to you and the copies of the receipts and send a copy to you and post a copy on the forums.

Since I have been documenting deals, this one will also be documented on NG.com and our emails and PMs will be posted. As in every sale I have done, I feel I explained to you with 100% accuracy what you would be spending your money on. I even gave you an extra PM to reinforce the fact that they were gamers condition boxes.You are basically insinuating that you were somehow "misled" about what you were getting...and that definitely rubs me the wrong way. Therefore, this will be our last deal together. As there seems to be an issue of reading and comprehension on your part.

James Responds:

I don't understand what you are getting angry about. To be perfectly honest, I don't consider 8 of them to be in "gamer's condition." I don't know your definition of what gamer's condition is but I have another idea. One thing you didn't say is that some of the cases had cut plastic. The vinyl was slashed on a number of these cases. You told me on AIM that some of them had loose flaps but about half of them (8 exactly) had loose flaps. Some of these flaps were very loose. I thought the case trays were cracked but not cracked that badly. Half of the cases were what I consider to be in gamer's condition since they weren't perfect. The other half are what I considered to be in poor condition.

Now, I didn't zap you about the snap-lock case. You said it was in good condition and I agree with you on that. The only thing that I said was that it was pretty dirty. It took me a while to clean it and now it looks just fine. The plastic feels OK as well. I don't see why this has to be our "last deal." All I said was, I think that you sending me a perfect snap-lock case should even things out. To tell you the truth, I have thrown away cases that were in better shape than those 8 that I talked about. I didn't mention that in my last email but now I think it appropriate that I do. I have no intention on mentioning this on Neo-Geo.com. Our deal is none of their business. Just send me the final case that you promised me and I will be satisfied. However, you should know the difference between "gamer's condition" and "poor condition" by now since you have so many games. Thanks for your time.

Best Regards,

James

By this time, I am starting to lose my patience as he seems to be trying to insinuate that I'm some n00b that misled him on a sale and he feels cheated in some way so he gets this email from me:

I am angry because you can't be that inept. You asked me SEVERAL questions about the cases. I told you these were NOT for collectors. Here is the exact quote from the thread that I made.


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I have 18 cases for sale.

17 old style cases
1 snap-lock case

These are from games that needed replacement cases!!!!!!!!

These are not ideal for collectors...hence why I am selling them.

These are great for someone that has a bunch of loose carts and would like cases to put their carts in. I'm looking to sell these as a lot. I would like to get $100 shipped in the US w/Delivery Confirmation Priority Mail.

Also comes with 1 Samurai Shodown Euro Insert and Manual and 1 JPN Puzzle Bobble FAKE/Homebrew/Bootleg old style sized insert.

Please PM or respond to this thread.

Phillip



I specifically stated that these were not ideal for collectors ..... but that they were great for someone who had alot of loose carts that needed cases. So.. now I will say the same thing to you that you said to me... I would think that you would know what gamers condition is. Not to mention that I told you through AIM that the cases were cracked... I told you that 1 in particular was totally broken across the bottom, I told you that the 4 cases that didnt have cracked trays; had plastic that was cut too short to fully protect the insert. Oh and by the way... those ones that have Vinyl rippling should look real familiar to you....considering they are the ones I bought from you. Do you remember how much I bought those 5 cases from you for? I paid damn near what you paid me and I only got 5 cases. Can you tell me where can you get 17 Old Style Cases and 1 Snap-lock case + shipping for $100 .. and they be in any other condition that GAMERS/POOR. There is no difference between Gamers and Poor. Considering you have been into the Neo longer than me.... You really thought you were going to get 18 cases for $100 shipped?!?!?! 100 dollars shipped?!?!?! Then you have the audacity to try and run this game like you were misinformed. Thats whats pissing me off. Not only did I tell you over AIM that they weren't for collectors...not only was it posted in my thread that these weren't for collectors... I even sent you a 2nd PM...after YOU agreed to buy them, that stated these were Gamers condition and that I wanted to make sure that you fully understood what you were getting. Obviously, you have an issue with Reading/Comprehension skills because this PM was saved to my computer HDD. Do you not understand this PM I sent you .. that I know you read and received... and here is what it said.

James,

I just want to make sure that you understand that these are gamers cases...alot of the trays are cracked and some have vinyl rippling. The ones that dont have cracked trays, are the ones where the plastic was cut too low to cover the top of the insert. I just want to cover everything so that you know what you are getting.

Phillip

Also, as far as the extra snap-lock case.... I'll CONSIDER sending it to you. I dont play games when I make deals and I am 100% honest about it. You getting the extra case was not part of the deal... it was just something I was throwing in since you said you needed cases and I was treating you like alot of the other freinds I have in the forums. I have given alot of things away in the forums..just like the Digital Camera I am giving to mdog for free. However, it seems that you feel this is OWED to you as some sort of compensation by "insinuating" that you were misled and misinformed in this transaction. Well... there are other people who are really my freinds that may appreciate getting a Near Mint Snaplock. With behaviour like this, it is now becoming clear why you are having sooooo many issues with all of NG.com .

Good Day.... and Good Riddance

James then sends this:

I think that you are making too big of a deal out of this. I think that you should cool your jets. I know that the cases were cracked but you said that they were cracked in the corners. Most of these cases were more than just cracked in the corners but nuked in my opinion. I know what collector's condition is by the way. Actually, one of those cases that I sent you, was for free. I gave it to you because you helped me with a deal a while ago. It didn't cost you a penny. I didn't know that Gamer's Condition meant poor condition. I consider collector's condition to me near mint to mint. I think of Gamer's Condition to be very good to excellent condition. I know they are cases that you replaced other cases with. However, I didn't know that 8 of them were that messed up.

I can read perfectly fine. In the AIM conversation you didn't tell me that 8 of the cases had busted flaps. Also, you didn't tell me that the case trays were cracked that badly. I knew they were cracked but not to that extent. Also, I knew about the rippling on the 4 cases. I never said otherwise. I just think that you should have been more clear about what your definition of what gamer's condition is. I have my definition and you have yours.

I am starting to doubt that I am going to get that extra snap-lock case. A deal is a deal and I hope that you stick to it but by the way you are acting, I have my doubts. You told me that you weren't feeling well, perhaps that is why you are over reacting to this. I think that you will regret what you have said in the morning. You have insulted me a number of times in the emails that you have sent me. That isn't very professional in my opinion. I never attacked you, I just said that I wasn't 100% happy about the condition that 8 of the cases were in. I am the one who should be upset but I am not letting it bother me. I am not going to blast you on the board because I don't see the point in it. We have talked over AIM for a long time now and I don't see why you have this sudden change of heart about my character. If you don't want to deal with me again then that is all there is to it. I am sorry to hear that you were not happy about what I have said but that is just how I feel. Thanks for your time.

Best Regards,

James

So in return I send this email to him and consider this issue DONE!!!!!

James,

Dont even try to bullshit me. I have asked several board members what they consider Gamers condition...and they all said Poor/Rough Condition. It seems that you are the ony one that doesnt understand. Also, you claim to have given me a free case when we dealt (which you did) but you know damn well that you sold me those cases for damn near the same price you got 18 cases for and you have the nerve to sit here and tell me that I sold you 18 cases for $100 with shipping included with misleading info?. Now for $100 dollars shipped, you would expect to get 18 cases, (that are in gamer condition), and expect them to be in better than poor condition?!?!? Please get for real. You have been in this scene long enough to know that you cant get 18 cases for $80. Between buying a New box to ship them in and paying postage I spent $20. So you got 18 cases for $80. How about we do a little math problem. $80 divided by 18 cases.. Hmm that comes out to $4.44 per case. Now knowing that you basically paid $4.44 per case ...you still dont have any conception of what gamers condition means? Please...not only do you insult me..but you insult the grading scale as a whole. Everyone who saw my thread said they knew that those cases were not in the best of shape. Thats why I stated that these were best suited for someone that has loose homecarts and just wanted a place to store them. BTW... Thats bullshit about being just cracked in the corners. I never said they were just cracked in the corners. I told you that the majority of the trays were cracked and that there was one that had the tray completely split across the middle. Thank God I save all PMs till a transaction is completed.

Also, I'm not sick.... and I know when someone is trying to insinuate something untrue. You are trying to portray this as though you were misled, misinformed, tricked cheated, bamboozled... whatever term you would like to use. This whole deal will be posted on NG.com for all to see. So feel free to respond in the thread with whatever info you have saved on your end. You're right .. we have chatted alot on AIM.. and I have been on your side in alot of matters that went on in the forums. That is why I am amazed that you would have the nerve to even try to pull this on me. Cool my jets?!?!? I think not. I'd rather post this up as we both know that you have a knack for making shit public that was meant to be private... waay after it has occurred.

You know.. GamersAbyss and a few other people told me I should be wary of dealing with him. Since we had perfect transactions before, I had no reason to not deal with him again. James sent the money as agreed. It arrived to me quickly. My complaint is that he is a poor buyer in the fact that he thought he was getting the Deal Of The Century , so he jumped at the opportunity... then had buyers remorse when he got EXACTLY what was described to him. Then on top of it he decides to try to "flip the script" and act as though I got over on him by not fully representing what I was selling. So since he doesn't fall into a category of my Scammers thread...I posted this one especially for this particular situation.

In closing. I will NEVER deal with Makismo again. When I receive that Near Mint Snaplock case, I am going to give it away on the forums as a freebie. The terms will be decided when I receive it and it will be 100% free.

To James/Makismo : Everyone told me that you would eventually do something to rub me the wrong way. It took awhile....and it's finally happened. Feel free to come in here and post your proof. I posted mine.

Farewell and a hearty Fuck You

Sorry for the long posts guys but I will add this link to every sales and feedback thread for all to see.

Phillip

Mak is one strange character; his moods are very unpredictable and they change like the weather. Mak is fine when he can have his way, but watch your back if he suddenly has one of his 'episodes' -- you become the subject of spiteful ridicule no matter how good your past dealings with him ended up..

INDENT!

Gamers condition = Run over with a truck and used as a hockey puck. I've seen a few items in the Neo Store described almost exactly like this.

No worries Phillip, you are a great member here. I remember you sold me a Japanese SS3 and it arrived much better than you had described it to be.

This sounds like buyers remorse to me. The box was $20.00 and shipping was most likely a good chunk of change. Bottom line is you get what you pay for.

Robert Wallace said:

Gamers condition = Run over with a truck and used as a hockey puck. I've seen a few items in the Neo Store described almost exactly like this.

No worries Phillip, you are a great member here. I remember you sold me a Japanese SS3 and it arrived much better than you had described it to be.

This sounds like buyers remorse to me. The box was $20.00 and shipping was most likely a good chunk of change. Bottom line is you get what you pay for.

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RW,

Just to clarify. I meant that between the Shipping box and Paying for Postage was $20 total. Thanks RW for the vote of confidence. I know these kind of incidents can get blown out of proportion if left alone. Now he can post whatever he wants. I'll be archiving these PMs and Emails for future references.

Phillip

This sounds like a huge problem. Maybe you should tell the man that you will refund his $80 (because of the $20 s/h) as soon as you receive this package back. It sounds like reasoning with him will only cause more problems.

This is indeed bullshit. Bullet has stated to Makismo several times that they were in gamer's condition with cracked trays and such. If Makismo couldn't understand simple English like that, it's his own fault. Bullet shouldn't have to take back the cases, especially after all that bullshit he went through. It's buyer's remorse, not the seller's fault.

That's why pics are so useful in these transactions. Anyway Mak should stop whining.
I haven't read all the text, but I understand Mak doesn't want any type of refund. So just let him be, no need for a thread like this that can keep going forever.

Here is our AIM conversation:


MHojoMoko: Hello, I put the money order in the mail.
MHojoMoko: Tell me a little about the snap-lock case I am geting.
pdhaywood: Ok...Cool. PM me with your address and I'll get the box ready for shipment.
pdhaywood: ok 1 sec
MHojoMoko: James C. McCabe
MHojoMoko: That is my address. How many of the cases are cracked out of the 17 old style cases?
MHojoMoko: Anything wrong with the snap-lock case?
pdhaywood: 12-13 of them if I'm not mistaken are cracked
MHojoMoko: Are they cracked badly or are they just semi-cracked?
pdhaywood: The snaplock case plastic is kind of "dry" ...it's hard to explain...kind of like how plastic feels when it's been sitting in the sun
MHojoMoko: OK
pdhaywood: Some have small cracks in one corner and then there are 2 or 3 that have major tray cracking along the bottom
pdhaywood: As far as the snap-lock case..I would rate it Good condition....but since you are buying these...I have a MINT/NEAR MINT Snaplock case coming to me in about 2 weeks thats part of a bulk cart purchase...and I will let you have that one for free...with free shipping
MHojoMoko: Oh, thanks a lot.
MHojoMoko: So you are giving me two snap-lock cases then?
pdhaywood: Yes..You will get 1 in the box ...Good condition.... and as soon as I get the Near mint/Mint one I will mail that one out to you Free of charge
MHojoMoko: So 12-13 are cracked with 2 to 3 having been cracked badly. About 4 of them aren't cracked but the vinhyl at the top is cut too short and can expose some of the insert. How about the rippling?
MHojoMoko: Thanks a lot.
pdhaywood: Let me check how many have rippling... 1 sec
MHojoMoko: Did you see what GamersAbyss did to me in my feedback thread?
pdhaywood: Yeah..I was reading that a little while ago
MHojoMoko: He and a bunch of other people attacked me. I was just trying to get feedback for people who have dealt with me.
MHojoMoko: I think that he should be banned for that.
MHojoMoko: That was uncalled for.
MHojoMoko: So, how many of them are rippled?
pdhaywood: unfortunately...mods arent around that often to do much of anything
pdhaywood: I'm counting them now
MHojoMoko: I told Shawn about it and he said he would delete the thread but he just put it in the war room.
MHojoMoko: So Shawn lied to me.
MHojoMoko: I then told Shawn that i would buy his Twinkle Star Sprite game for $765 if he would perma-ban GamersAbyss but he wouldn't.
pdhaywood: 3 cases are rippled no cracked trays... but Plastic is cut too short to cover entire insertlol
MHojoMoko: Is the rippling very bad?
pdhaywood: 1 old style case no cracked tray with JPN PB Insertbut has abut a 1 inch plastic seperationon the top right front edge
MHojoMoko: I can use super glue to fix that i think.
MHojoMoko: I think that Shawn should have taken me up on my offer. I was being serious by the way.
pdhaywood: On 2 the rippling isn't noticeable when an insert is in it..but the 3rd one also has part of the plastic cover on the rear slightly rippled
pdhaywood: So are you going to get TSS or BS?
pdhaywood: checking the other trays right now
MHojoMoko: I may get TSS but Shawn has to agree to ban GamersAbyss.
MHojoMoko: I am going to ask him again in a few days about my offer.
MHojoMoko: I really think that he should do it because GamersAbyss is nothing but a pain in the ass and a super idiot.
MHojoMoko: Take a look at the crap that he posts.
pdhaywood: 1 case has a tray that has seperated from the case and a flap that is starting to seperate also
MHojoMoko: OK
MHojoMoko: Is the Samurai insert and instruction manual OK as well as the Puzzle Bobble insert?
pdhaywood: The PB insert is Perfect..I never used it because I received one JPN old style and 1 US Snaplock sized insert
MHojoMoko: The money order is in the mail box, it will go out at 6:30 in the morning. It may get to you by Friday or Saturday.
pdhaywood: 1 case the outside is fine but the tray is destroyed (Looks as though alot of stress was put on it...like alot of stuff had been stacked on top of it
pdhaywood: be back..need to reboot
MHojoMoko: Oh?


As you can see he said that 2 - 3 had major cracking while the others had cracking in the corners. I had no idea that Gamer's condition meant poor condition. I am a gamer and I wouldn't play anything that wasn't at least in very good shape. I have never bought a game in what is called "gamer's condition" so I don't exactly know. I always though gamer's condition meant very good to excellent. I know that collector's only buy games in near mint to mint condition. I think that only idiots buy things in poor condition. Thanks for your time.

Seems like it's "Makismo Fest" nowadays... Interesting how everybody blindly keeps up beating this guy down. It's kinda pitiful, even for a man like him.

And bullet, I'm with you in this deal.

Makismo said:

I am a gamer and I wouldn't play anything that wasn't at least in very good shape.

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Do you play with the cases or with the carts? As long as a game can be gamed (that is, played), it is in gamer's condition. Got it?

I just bought a gamers condition AES - that meant a totally smashed console and 5 games (cracked boxes, no instructions, faded inserts etc)

That's gamer's condition.

Expect the items to be fuct, but you can still play them.

It's the opposite of collector's condition.

El Capitan said:

I just bought a gamers condition AES - that meant a totally smashed console and 5 games (cracked boxes, no instructions, faded inserts etc)

That's gamer's condition.

Expect the items to be fuct, but you can still play them.

It's the opposite of collector's condition.

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What you state is not "gamer's condition", it's more of an "ultrapoor condition". Gamer's condition mean that the game has benn regularly played but hasn't major defaults. Just creases or heavy insertion marks, cracked case...

D'oh, after rereading, I realized I might be wrong after all.

The nuance is so close from gamer's to poor that it become like playing on words.

Tristesse said:

D'oh, after rereading, I realized I might be wrong after all.

The nuance is so close from gamer's to poor that it become like playing on words.

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Tristesse,

I think thats where the problem really is. He feels that Gamers condition should be better than what it is. However, he totally ignored the numerous messages that I sent him stating:

These are not for collectors. These are better suited for someone with loose carts.

Makismo is a collector. If I tell a collector that it's not suited to their needs/taste , then he should have taken my word for it.

Phillip

Look, the way the cases were described was in the AIM conversation. He didn't say once that Gamer's condition meant poor condition. You saw the emails that he sent me and you have now seen the AIM conversation. I wasn't about to bring this out in public. All I said to him was, I wasn't happy with the condition and I think that by him sending me a near mint snap-lock case - that would make the deal even. By the way, I sold him 4 mint cases for $60 shipped. I threw in an extra case for free because he helped me with another deal. It cost me about $12 to ship the package. So I ended up getting $48 for 4 perfect cases which comes to $12 per case. That is dirt cheap for 4 perfect cases. I don't think that you will get a price like that anywhere else.

I really don't see what this is all about. I have emailed a few people before about sending me things that weren't that great and they have always said that they were sorry or offered to make it right. I didn't ask for anything if you noticed. He said that he would give me a near mint snap-lock case. If I do get this case, then I would consider the deal even. But take a look at how he described the cases in the AIM and compare it to what he said in the emails. It is very conflicting to say the least. He didn't say that 8 cases had busted flaps nor did he say that several of the cases had slashed plastic. It looks like they were cut with a knife. I have done no wrong and this whole thing was blown out of proportion by him. I don't see why this had to end like this.

Gamers condition means it looks like shit. Poor means said shit was stomped on.

While our AIM conversation was going. You see I am trying to tell him about the cases and I am mentioning that 12 or so had cracked trays. Now if you all re-read that AIM Conversation; this is during the time that He was having an issue with Sonny (GamersAbyss). Inbetween me looking at cases and trying to find all of the problems with them... you all can clearly see that his main concern was trying to get Shawn to ban GamersAbyss. So I am reading what he is typing about GA + reading what questions he is asking me about cases. It seems that if he had been more focused on my descriptions in AIM and the actual description in my selling thread he would have comprehended what was stated about their conditions.

Gamer's Condition:
From time to time we will use the rating of "Gamer's Condition" to describe an item. This means that the item is 100% functional and will come with whatever is mentioned in the listing. However, condition is not being considered.

This means you get what you get. So basically you got your 18 boxes so it should be the end of this thread, right?

Makismo said:

By the way, I sold him 4 mint cases for $60 shipped. I threw in an extra case for free because he helped me with another deal. It cost me about $12 to ship the package. So I ended up getting $48 for 4 perfect cases which comes to $12 per case. That is dirt cheap for 4 perfect cases. I don't think that you will get a price like that anywhere else.

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No McCabe. You didnt sell me 4 Perfect cases. If they were perfect you wouldn't have described 3 of them the way you did. See... those 3 that came back to you with the vinyl rippling and no cracked trays.. they are from the original 5 you sold me and they had all been kept in shipping boxes. No sun exposure or anything. There was no deception or confusion in condition details. You are a collector. I told you numerous times that they were NOT in collectors condition. It is also stated right here where I made the thread:

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102242

Thread hasn't been edited since 10-12-2004 which is when I marked them as sold. Next time you should focus more on the deal at hand, instead of worrying about trying to use your purchasing of a TSS homecart as leverage for someone being banned.

Phillip

Mystic_flame said:

Gamer's Condition:
From time to time we will use the rating of "Gamer's Condition" to describe an item. This means that the item is 100% functional and will come with whatever is mentioned in the listing. However, condition is not being considered.

This means you get what you get. So basically you got your 18 boxes so it should be the end of this thread, right?

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Mystic_flame you are correct. We both posted our sides and I am going to ask Dean or Wasabi if they can close this thread. I can always link to it later if necessary .

Phillip

First of I got to say....LOL. Second off Bullet even though I told you so I am not going to say I told you so

This is the shit I am talking about!!! you make a deal with a complete asshole and you should expect this kind of garbage.

Phillip I feel bad for you man, seems like he is trying to hoodwink you for more than he actually paid for which in itself is dishonest. I read every bit of the transaction posted and the way I read it you were honest to a tee!!! Dont worry about it everyone knows he is a POS.

Next MAK are you trying to buy my ban? I dont know Shawn my ass isnt worth a TSS Cart so go ahead and ban me.....LMAO!!

Seriously I dont think Shawn is doing such poor business that he has to hand out free bans with Cart purchases....LMAO!!

Again one more reason to steer clear of this fuck head