Mother of soldier killed in Iraq collapses, dies.
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Freedom isn't free.
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Loopz said:
Got any better topics to post?
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Nah, I think it's pretty important.
We've got a President more than eager to spend human lives on his ill-conceived pet democracy project, yet won't even visit the services at Dover AFB for the incoming war casualties, for fear of drawing attention to the mounting human costs of this entire debacle. That's completely fucking sad.
Sorry to interrupt your bumper-sticker zeal for war. I guess it's a lot more difficult to justify when you really look at the whole thing, instead of viewing it through the Bush administration's 'reality-free' sound-bite prism.
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Freedom isn't free and Bush knows it. He know's how hard it is. He watches it on TV.
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JHendrix said:
You forgot Poland.
I'm just kidding around, admit though that line sounds pretty dumb. I'll admit Kerry sucks too, but I think we're at a point of fixation in this country, cadidates are only going to come from 2 parties for a while and they'll continue to suck.
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That's a terrible story,
Fucking Al Qaeda, this is all their fault!
Oh... wait, no... actually there was no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda... so is it Saddam's fault? Well, no -Saddam didn't want to pick a fight with the US and, from all evidence thus far, had no WMD to attack the US.
I'm not pointing any fingers.
Fucking Al Qaeda, this is all their fault!
Oh... wait, no... actually there was no link between Saddam and Al Qaeda... so is it Saddam's fault? Well, no -Saddam didn't want to pick a fight with the US and, from all evidence thus far, had no WMD to attack the US.
I'm not pointing any fingers.
lithy said:You forgot Poland.
I'm just kidding around, admit though that line sounds pretty dumb. I'll admit Kerry sucks too, but I think we're at a point of fixation in this country, cadidates are only going to come from 2 parties for a while and they'll continue to suck.
I heard the quote as it was uttered, early in the debate. It wasn't exactly as bad as you put it:
"And now we're fighting them now. And it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work."
How is that any different than any other non military president, or any of us non-veterans, would come to understand the hardships of wartime service? It does make a good sound byte though, but if you get to use that then we get to use "I actually voted for the 87 Billion, before I voted against it".
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Before telling the lady about her newly-deceased son they should have put a banana cream pie five feet off to her left, that way when she collapsed her face would have landed humorously atop the pie.
Blueberry would work as well but the clean-up would be a bitch.
Blueberry would work as well but the clean-up would be a bitch.
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Mushiki said:
My pie story?
Yeah, I suppose it is a waste of good pie. Perhaps we should use cow manure instead?
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I do have to say that I find it funny how many citizens of our country were all for it when 911 happened, and then seemed to go "out of sight out of mind". Next time it happens I'm sure we'll get the same reaction again. 911's final toll of civilians, thats you and I an anyone else that doesn't sign up to possibly die for our country, was 2752. I'm not sure where the toll is as of now for our US soldiers, but this is why we are to honor those that serve in the military: because they are saying "I will give my life before they will take yours." NOT SAYING I'M PRO-WAR, just saying that I want to hear what the answer is, not isn't. What is the answer to the mess that we are in or even were in before the actual war was waged against terrorism? Pretend the war never started. What would be the right thing to do? Thats all I want to know.
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seriously, in no way do I want to see anyone die. I doubt any of you do. So what is the answer? Nobody seems to have it. Especially the people that are talking the most.
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lithy said:
I read about that line in the debate, but did they mention Spain as a coalition country?
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the binary c0de said:
It's essentially backseat driving on a global scale. Everyone always thinks that they can do it better.
When there hasn't been a massive attack in the past few years, people tend to forget what it feels like, and what the consequences of inaction can be.
9/11 essentially resulted from years and years of the international community turning a blind eye toward Al Quaeda, which is basically the same policy that we had been following with Iraq. Honestly, I used to think that staying away from these places was the best policy, but that's just not an option anymore.