Biohazard 4 Demo Disc / Famitsu Capcom DVD Magazine

tsukaesugi

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Went to the bookstore this morning and picked up a copy of the Famitsu Capcom DVD magazine with the Biohazard 4 demo disc.

Just spent the last twenty minutes or so playing Biohazard 4 (it's a short demo), here are my impressions so far...

-this is the darkest, most grotesque BH yet. I don't know if Shinji Mikami & Co. are trying to compete with Silent Hill, or this is the direction that they were travelling in anyway, but things are starting to get spooky. It's obvious that there aren't going to be any ghosts or spirits or anything, and at the end of the day it'll be Umbrella Europe with a new batch of viruses behind everything, but the atmosphere is still pretty eerie

-the demo only allows you to play in a house, a path, and then part of a village. Most of the scenes have already been shown in preview screenshots, there was nothing really new. The only monsters you encounter are the zombie-villagers, again from the previews. The atmosphere is a lot like the Blair Witch Project meets Deliverance

-the game is way more gun-oriented. Gone is the automatic aiming system from the other BH games. In its place there's now a laser sight which allows you to aim at and shoot anything in front of your character. You can aim high and low as well, you're not stuck on a two-dimensional horizontal arc. There are various barrels and boxes full of ammo, herbs &tc that you have to shoot to open (you can knife them open too though), dynamite attached to tripwires that you have to shoot to pass (wouldn't want to try and knife that), there was a crow on a post so I took aim and blew him off. The laser sight really helps in combat: without the automatic aiming system you'd be SOL. The laser sight also allows you to try for head shots. Blowing the head off of a villager-zombie is way more fun than a regular zombie: it's just like killing a real human being! (Whoops, did I say that last part out loud?)

-there's a phenomenal level of detail in the game. Shoot a person (whoops, I mean zombie-villager. Shooting people is bad) near the head and they stagger and their hat falls off. I was hiding inside a building and a zombie-villager woman saw me from the window and raised the alarm, so I shot her right through the window! The glass broke, she crumpled and everything. People throw axes and knives at you, they crawl in through windows to get you, the whole works. The AI is way better than any of the other BH games

-we still have typewriters for save points, but the 'door opening animation' when you move into a new room is gone- the door just opens and you walk in. I'm guessing this has more to do with the improved data storage capacity of the GC over the PS or something like that than any aesthetic decision

-Leon not only has a new leather jacket, he's got a new voice actor as well. The new guy has a voice about four octaves deeper than BH2 Leon so it's funny to hear him speak

-you can pick up money as well as herbs, ammo &tc. It looks like there's some unlockable stuff with the demo disc- it says if I collect 30,000 coins than I can unlock something. I've only got 4800 so far so I'll have to get back to you on this

Well, I'm off to blow up some more people's heads, I mean destroy some more zombies again. I'll try and post some info about the magazine and the DVD (there's some Capcom Fighting Jam stuff on it) later.
 

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tsukaesugi said:
Went to the bookstore this morning and picked up a copy of the Famitsu Capcom DVD magazine with the Biohazard 4 demo disc.

Just spent the last twenty minutes or so playing Biohazard 4 (it's a short demo), here are my impressions so far...

-this is the darkest, most grotesque BH yet. I don't know if Shinji Mikami & Co. are trying to compete with Silent Hill, or this is the direction that they were travelling in anyway, but things are starting to get spooky. It's obvious that there aren't going to be any ghosts or spirits or anything, and at the end of the day it'll be Umbrella Europe with a new batch of viruses behind everything, but the atmosphere is still pretty eerie

-the demo only allows you to play in a house, a path, and then part of a village. Most of the scenes have already been shown in preview screenshots, there was nothing really new. The only monsters you encounter are the zombie-villagers, again from the previews. The atmosphere is a lot like the Blair Witch Project meets Deliverance

-the game is way more gun-oriented. Gone is the automatic aiming system from the other BH games. In its place there's now a laser sight which allows you to aim at and shoot anything in front of your character. You can aim high and low as well, you're not stuck on a two-dimensional horizontal arc. There are various barrels and boxes full of ammo, herbs &tc that you have to shoot to open (you can knife them open too though), dynamite attached to tripwires that you have to shoot to pass (wouldn't want to try and knife that), there was a crow on a post so I took aim and blew him off. The laser sight really helps in combat: without the automatic aiming system you'd be SOL. The laser sight also allows you to try for head shots. Blowing the head off of a villager-zombie is way more fun than a regular zombie: it's just like killing a real human being! (Whoops, did I say that last part out loud?)

-there's a phenomenal level of detail in the game. Shoot a person (whoops, I mean zombie-villager. Shooting people is bad) near the head and they stagger and their hat falls off. I was hiding inside a building and a zombie-villager woman saw me from the window and raised the alarm, so I shot her right through the window! The glass broke, she crumpled and everything. People throw axes and knives at you, they crawl in through windows to get you, the whole works. The AI is way better than any of the other BH games

-we still have typewriters for save points, but the 'door opening animation' when you move into a new room is gone- the door just opens and you walk in. I'm guessing this has more to do with the improved data storage capacity of the GC over the PS or something like that than any aesthetic decision

-Leon not only has a new leather jacket, he's got a new voice actor as well. The new guy has a voice about four octaves deeper than BH2 Leon so it's funny to hear him speak

-you can pick up money as well as herbs, ammo &tc. It looks like there's some unlockable stuff with the demo disc- it says if I collect 30,000 coins than I can unlock something. I've only got 4800 so far so I'll have to get back to you on this

Well, I'm off to blow up some more people's heads, I mean destroy some more zombies again. I'll try and post some info about the magazine and the DVD (there's some Capcom Fighting Jam stuff on it) later.


:eek: YAAAAAAAAARRR!!! :very_ang: ...

I want... :crying:
 

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Ordered this....and now the wait... Should have spent the extra money to get it a week earlier. :make_fac:
 

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Biohazard 4 Demo disc

:glee: I have an AR Replay ( Action Replay ) enhancer for my GC & so it can
play import games from Japan.

So i should be able to play the BH Demo if i can find one maybe at www.VideoGameDepot.com if they have them in stock someday. :cool:

To bad the GC can't play imports without modding your console system or an
AR Replay disc to make them work. :( :)

Regards,

Boogbutt
 

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I tried to pick-up that Famitsu issue at a Kinokuniya bookstore here in Seattle.

I found out that the shipment got delayed. :( They don't know when their going to get it in. I'm hoping it will only be a few days to a week.

Anyway, if anyone is selling one fairly cheap here in the States. Or is willing to buy an extra copy, I will be more than willing to pay for it.
 

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Awesome news - thanks for the rundown tsukae. This is actually my most anticipated game next to Metroid Prime 2, and it's looking like this might be the game that finally returns Resident Evil to the pinnacle that it reached with RE2 way back on the PS1. I try not to get too giddy about all these ridiculously hyped monster-type releases, but I somehow can't resist the urge with this one. Maybe it can take me back to the time when that fekking dog busted through the window and scared my non-strafing ass half to death .... :help:
 

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galfordo said:
Maybe it can take me back to the time when that fekking dog busted through the window and scared my non-strafing ass half to death...

No real 'pop-out-and-scare-you' surprises so far, but there might be some in the real game. Like I said above, the atmosphere is the creepiest out of all the BH's so far though.

There was a movie from the 80's called 'The Monster Club' which was made up of three shorter stories. One of the stories was about a village of ghouls. A movie producer discovers the village and decides (not knowing that the villagers were all undead) to film a movie there. He gets a chance to wander around a bit before they finally eat him (spoiler alert, whoops too late), and the atmosphere in the movie is a lot like the one in BH4.

Some more quick points:

-zombies now drop stuff (ammo &tc.) when you shoot them. Blowing up a zombie's head almost guarantees that you get stuff, you also stand a good chance of getting stuff off of critical hits (non-explosive head shots). The crows automatically give you stuff too if you shoot them, but they fly off the screen if you get too close

-I mentioned that you unlock something if you earn 30,000 coins. Well the game doesn't save, and I can't figure out a way to earn more than 17,000 or so coins. There's a guy with a chainsaw (ooh, chainsaw) and you get 10,000 coins for him alone, but you don't pick up anywhere near enough coins off the zombies. I have no idea where the other 13,000 coins are. Truly a mystery

-Did I mention the guy with the chainsaw? He's unstoppable. I just keep shooting and shooting and shooting, and he keeps coming and coming and coming. He's not especially big or anything, he's the same size as everyone else (except he's got a bag on his head and a chainsaw. Ooh chainsaw) so he's not really a boss or anything. Oh, and this is the best part about him: one hit from his chainsaw and you die. You died. Game over. Try again.

-you come equipped with a pair of binoculors so you can zoom in and out and all around. Fantastic scaling, but not so useful so far

-this is the first BH game where you're really running around in the open. Other BH games have had outdoor areas, but this is the first one with really wide open spaces. Everytime you go in a house (hovel? shanty?) in the village, you just go straight in: no loading or anything. So far it feels more like Tomb Raider or Tenchu than Biohazard

-no problems with the camera angles

-the equipment screen is like the screen from the first Diablo. It's a grid, and each item on the grid takes up so many squares. You also have the option of dropping stuff like in BH0, but so far I haven't had to 'cause you can carry a LOT of equipment
 

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Quick question....

With the Diablo-esque inventory screen, can you rotate items?

I always felt cheated that I couldn't just turn the swords sideways and use that extra space.
 

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Eric said:
Quick question....

With the Diablo-esque inventory screen, can you rotate items?

I always felt cheated that I couldn't just turn the swords sideways and use that extra space.

No, the weird thing is you don't seem able to move stuff at all, let alone rotate. The game automatically sorts stuff for you after you pick it up. I have no idea what happens once your inventory gets too full, so far I haven't had that problem 'cause you really do have a lot of room. Last time I played I had like:

2 sprays
knife
pistol
shotgun
2 grenades
3 herbs
2 boxes of bullets
1 box of shells
 

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tsukaesugi said:
-zombies now drop stuff (ammo &tc.) when you shoot them. Blowing up a zombie's head almost guarantees that you get stuff, you also stand a good chance of getting stuff off of critical hits (non-explosive head shots). The crows automatically give you stuff too if you shoot them, but they fly off the screen if you get too close
Don't think I like the sound of that. Birds dropping bullets? If you shoot someone in the head, they will magically be carrying ammunition for a gun they don't have? I'd rather have it the way it was before; strewn about on the floor or in a desk drawer for no reason (along with some green herb).
 

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SouthtownKid said:
Don't think I like the sound of that. Birds dropping bullets?

Yeah, I know it's a tad unrealistic, but I think the fact that you get stuff is supposed to be a bonus for being able to aim properly and hit the crow.

SouthtownKid said:
If you shoot someone in the head, they will magically be carrying ammunition for a gun they don't have? I'd rather have it the way it was before; strewn about on the floor or in a desk drawer for no reason (along with some green herb).

There's stuff strewn about all over the place as well, so it's kind of a best-of-both-worlds scenario.

I think Capcom decided to do away with the equipment box system and replace it with the 'dropping and picking up system' just because the way items would magically teleport between boxes was so unrealistic. That's enough of a concession towards reality for me. I prefer my zombies ammo dropping AND gunless... if you gave these guys guns the game would be a nightmare!
 

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Hi Tsu
I heard that you can throw grenades at cows in the game.
Are there any cows in the Barns on the demo?
Have you chucked a grenade at a person yet?
 

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I've had this pre ordered for about two weeks now. Hopefully ncsx.org is sending mine out today. I payed WAY to much for a 10-15 minute demo, but I don't care. It will be worth it I think. I just hope my Freeloader works with it.

Hey Tsu, do you think I'll be able to play it ok with no knowledge of the Japanese language? I figure I will, since it's a short demo and mostly action.
 

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Just called a couple jap. bookstore in NYC and they are both out of stock - can anyone from Japan mail one to me (I can Paypal you some yens) or show me the link for the page on Amazon.co.jp so that I can order it.

Thanks.
 
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Thanks for the impressions, tsuka. I was already excited to get this game, and now I'm moreso. Is it true that the game will be in 16X9 widescreen the whole time? I hope so, it's about time they make games with hd tvs in mind...

Spike
 

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Last question, I swear:

What's on the included DVD?

I don't have a region free player and was just curious about what I would be missing.

For all I know it won't even be worth switching the region on my DVD drive.

Thanks again.
 

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Howdoin said:
Just called a couple jap. bookstore in NYC and they are both out of stock - can anyone from Japan mail one to me (I can Paypal you some yens) or show me the link for the page on Amazon.co.jp so that I can order it.

Thanks.

nothing on amazon, heres the link to it on the famitsu site here

prolly better off saying "japanese" than jap.
 

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beelzebubble said:
nothing on amazon, heres the link to it on the famitsu site here

prolly better off saying "japanese" than jap.

Thanks Beelzebubble - unfortunately I cannot read japanese and am not sure I can order directly from Enterbrain that's why amazon.co.jp is so convenient... oh well I guess I'll have to go through ebay unless one of you is kind enough to ship it to me (I reiterate my offer to Paypal you the Yen amount).

(NB: Japanese is sometimes long to type so jap. is in no way derogatory its just abreviated - just like fr. for french or eng. for english. Sorry if it offended you).
 

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Howdoin said:
Thanks Beelzebubble - unfortunately I cannot read japanese and am not sure I can order directly from Enterbrain that's why amazon.co.jp is so convenient... oh well I guess I'll have to go through ebay unless one of you is kind enough to ship it to me (I reiterate my offer to Paypal you the Yen amount).

(NB: Japanese is sometimes long to type so jap. is in no way derogatory its just abreviated - just like fr. for french or eng. for english. Sorry if it offended you).

yeah i know it has two meanings :) actually we had this convo about a year ago and one cool member who is part japanese left the site becoz ppl were using "jap" all over the place (and then they told him to basically fuck off if he didnt like it..).

i dont care myself, im white but its just a matter of not taking chances imo.
 

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jpn is a far better abbreviation. still 3 letters, not derogatory, everyone happy.
 

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got my copy of BH4 demo today and all I can say is to get this asap! I tried it with the freeloader and it booted with no problems.

The extra DVD contains various previews for capcom games, such as: DMC3, Killer 7, Capcom Fighting Jam, Okami and Monster Hunter G.

If you can find the demo and don't mind spending, this will tide you over until January.
 

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I forgot to mention that if you get 30.000 coins you get a submachine gun to use in your next game. Don't turn off the console, for you can't save.

To get the 30.000 coins you must kill the chainsaw man twice and go for the crows and head shots.

Great demo. Can't wait for the Gameshark codes to open it up a little more.
 

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I think you have to kill one of the chainsaw men before you get the shot gun, which would be pretty hard.

Where is the other one exactly?
 
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