Fix my download speeds please

evil wasabi · Sep 17, 2004

Not even sure if this is possible to get around but, I'm on a T3 LAN here at school, and I just get horrendous and usually no connection with torrent files, p2p services especially <1k speeds. Stuff coming off the net comes down between 500k-1mbps so I believe somehow they're blocking these types of applications from the speeds they're capable of.

So pretty much is this possible to fix? Let me know if you need any kind of info. Possible to trick the server, reroute my connection etc. Anything.

gamejunkie · Sep 17, 2004

Bittorrent is very slow at first, then after you upload a little you are allowed to download a little more. I just got through downloading a few very large files and I think the upload to download ratio was 3:1. It really depends on the bittorrent network and whether or not it deceides you need to upload or download depending on the number of seeds avaliable. Plus you've got to remember you could be leaching off someone that has a very sucky connection and is spliting their upstream between many different people.

evil wasabi · Sep 18, 2004

gamejunkie said:
Bittorrent is very slow at first, then after you upload a little you are allowed to download a little more. I just got through downloading a few very large files and I think the upload to download ratio was 3:1. It really depends on the bittorrent network and whether or not it deceides you need to upload or download depending on the number of seeds avaliable. Plus you've got to remember you could be leaching off someone that has a very sucky connection and is spliting their upstream between many different people.

I understand how bit torrent works. My DSL with torrents walks all over this LANs speeds. The LAN quite simply rare connects. things will sit at 0 forever, then find a nice connection at maybe 5kbps. It just doesn't go.

firebomber · Sep 18, 2004

Welcome to the world of dorm internet.

A lot of colleges do this now. They give unrestricted bandwith to email and web browsing but restrict all other protocols so much that they are worthless.
They do it to cut down on file sharing but it's complete bullshit because everything else is dead too. Online games, FTP, IRC, etc. Basically everything that's not browsing the web is worthless.

There's not any good way around this in a dorm. Since you are behind their firewall it's out of your control really The school probably leaves a few ports open with unrestriced access but there's no real way for you to access them. I suppose you could do a port scan to find out but if you get caught doing that you'll most likely be thrown out of the dorms if not the school entirely.

I've found that you can still transfer files though IM programs like AIM and such as they usually leave those unrestricted. That might just be the deal here though so you could be out of luck entirely.

Believe me, I feel your pain. I've been dealing with this shit for two+ years now.

johnroche · Sep 18, 2004

Another thing regarding the P2P is that the guy you're getting it from could be on the lowly 56k. The road is only effectively as wide as the narrowest segment. So, it's also possible that somewhere along the way, there's a slow connection for one file or another.

I don't know about dorm bandwidth, but from the student center of my alma mater, I can still get excellent bandwidth, so it's possible that the problem might be on the other end.

firebomber · Sep 18, 2004

johnroche said:
Another thing regarding the P2P is that the guy you're getting it from could be on the lowly 56k. The road is only effectively as wide as the narrowest segment. So, it's also possible that somewhere along the way, there's a slow connection for one file or another.

I don't know about dorm bandwidth, but from the student center of my alma mater, I can still get excellent bandwidth, so it's possible that the problem might be on the other end.

It's not suprising that the student center has great internet. Usually the librarys, unions, etc. will remain unrestriced for everything.
It's only the campus residents that they have bend over.

evil wasabi · Sep 18, 2004

firebomber said:
Welcome to the world of dorm internet.

A lot of colleges do this now. They give unrestricted bandwith to email and web browsing but restrict all other protocols so much that they are worthless.
They do it to cut down on file sharing but it's complete bullshit because everything else is dead too. Online games, FTP, IRC, etc. Basically everything that's not browsing the web is worthless.

There's not any good way around this in a dorm. Since you are behind their firewall it's out of your control really The school probably leaves a few ports open with unrestriced access but there's no real way for you to access them. I suppose you could do a port scan to find out but if you get caught doing that you'll most likely be thrown out of the dorms if not the school entirely.

I've found that you can still transfer files though IM programs like AIM and such as they usually leave those unrestricted. That might just be the deal here though so you could be out of luck entirely.

Believe me, I feel your pain. I've been dealing with this shit for two+ years now.

Yep you've exactly described the problem

trying to play Halo online is trash unless you just play on the LAN. transfers through AIM are still fast, especially between students (up to like 3mbps) but everything else is just crippled.

Oh well, I still feel like doing a port scan because its bullshit. Instead of encouraging legal downloads like Vanderbuilt by getting a nice deal of 15 bucks a semester for Napster, they just cripple shit and make people want to find oter way to get it

evil wasabi · Sep 18, 2004

Can anyone direct me to what type of port scanner I should run and what I'm looking for to determine if any ports are open?

evil wasabi · Sep 19, 2004

I found this answer, think anyone can interpret this for a computer semi-idiot?

You've got two ways of going about this... both of which require you to have your own unix/linux server. Hopefully the network engineers who designed the network will have also made SSH a high priority (because they probably use it to manage and configure servers/equipment in the network). If they've made SSH a high priority simply forward the port that you want, ftp, bit torrent, etc, through ssh. The down side is that your connection is from the uni to your house, so it's still using your bandwidth, but you're connection will be just as fast as the one at your house. If its only http (port 80) that they place the highest priority on (unlikley) then you can set your ssh server on your unix/linux box to listen on port 80, and to the net admins it will appear as if you are connecting to a web server at that ip/address.

dragonwillow · Sep 19, 2004

It's asking you to set up a Unix/Linux server at another location.
For example, you have a fast-ass connection at home.
You set up a U/L server at home.
That server will act as a proxy.
You connect to that server, and it will act as a tunnel through your actual school proxy and firewall.

It's a pointless method.

evil wasabi · Sep 19, 2004

dragonwillow said:
It's asking you to set up a Unix/Linux server at another location.
For example, you have a fast-ass connection at home.
You set up a U/L server at home.
That server will act as a proxy.
You connect to that server, and it will act as a tunnel through your actual school proxy and firewall.

It's a pointless method.

Damn.

dragonwillow · Sep 19, 2004

Oh yeah, don't bother with port scanners either.
They're more for checking security than exploiting security.

If you want P2P, try to use Emule.
It might bypass the firewall on occasion.

aria · Sep 20, 2004

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

I went to college in the Before Time

When bandwidth was given in heaps for any purpose and USC mindlessly allowed its undergrads to sent print jobs to JPL (yes, the famous Jet Propulsion Laboratory -located 10 miles from campus) until people started accidently(?) sending long files to their offices. Ah, the days before people learned the harms of the internet.

Incidently, while Napster didn't become popular until after I graduated, it cause the system to slow down just enough that the students were taken off of the same system as everyone else in the university. Heck, when Metallica went after Napster, they also picked out USC, Indiana, and Yale as three schools with the worst Napster problems.

Those were the days.

firebomber · Sep 20, 2004

You're truely lucky to have gotten to exploit all that bandwidth

The caps are rediculous these days. I'm not joking when I say that besides web browsing, email and AIM the internet is completely useless.

syringe · Sep 20, 2004

*Part of the reason why I'm getting an off campus apartment when I transfer. (I commutee to NYU now, so I've got teh godly Optimum Online at home)

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