Thank you Mr. Bush

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Yeah, supposedly Bush voted for the renewal of the ban (at least he's on record as saying that - maybe he just said it to please everyone 'cause he knew it wouldn't happen, who knows). Anyway, yeah - that AR15 looks pretty sweet. :)

The last new pre-ban AR15 that I saw went for over double that.

The MG42 is also very nice, but you won't be getting one of those without a federal firearms license.
 
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Christ, its not like we haven't been able to buy Ar-15s and Ak-47s under different names and minus flash suppressors/bayonet lugs for the past 10 years. Hell the one you linked isn't even full auto. WEAK.

If you want some murderous shit then go for a USAS 12, Tec/DC 9, or Street Sweeper Shotgun. Those are the things we should be keeping off the street. (Although i kinda want a tec 9...)

This is what you need:

http://www.impactguns.com/store/product1020.html

.45 ACP "Ultimate Stopping Power"

OH YEAH.
 
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how about some sort of shotgun that fires out a handful of caltrops :angry:
 
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They should institute a nation-wide ban on those circus cannons used to fire midgets several hundred feet into safety nets.

It's not that I'm worried about the welfare of said midgets; in fact, I loathe midgets and wish the worst upon their species. Imagine for a moment the consequences resulting from such a cannon falling into the wrong hands… Do you have any idea what kind of damage a full-grown midget would inflict when fired from one of these dangerous weapons?

Either that, or hunt down and kill all existing midgets to prevent them from being used as ammo.

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I agree, we should hunt down and destroy all midgets.
If midgets of mass destruction fall into in the wrong hands, the results could be devastating :eek:
 
slerch666

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Scanline said:
Technically Bush is on record as supporting the renewal of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.

But either way happy shooting :tickled:
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Here's an exceprt of this article I found over at FactCheck.Org:

Q Isn't it kind of disingenuous for the President to say that I'm for the assault weapons ban, but then not spend a nickel of his political capital to fight for it?
McClellan: I disagree. His position has always been well-known, and it's been clear going back to his first campaign for President.
Q That he was for the ban?
McClellan: For a reauthorization of the current ban.
Q . . . so if he's for the ban, and he doesn't do a thing --
McClellan: Well, keep in mind that the Congress is the one that sets the legislative timetable, and Congress has made clear that it's not going to be coming up. . .
Q He was happy to let the authorization lapse, wasn't he?
McClellan: Oh, you know that's a ridiculous assertion.
Q Name one thing, one step that the President took to have the assault weapons ban reauthorized?
McClellan: That's why I said, Ron, his position has been very well-known. We've restated that position. It remains unchanged. But he does not set the legislative timetable. Members of Congress set the legislative timetable. And Congress has stated -- congressional leaders have stated that it's not going to come up for a vote.
Q Is there one congressman, one congressional leader who he has called in Congress, and said, please put it on the timetable? . . .
McClellan: Let's debate the real issue here . . .
Q Name one person who he called to lobby on behalf of legislation.
McClellan: -- his position has been made well-known.
Q So there's nothing more he could have done to get the ban extended?
McClellan: Well, I think members of Congress have stated -- congressional leaders have stated that it's not going to be coming up for a vote. . . .
Q Can you name one person who he's called on the Hill on behalf of this legislation?
McClellan: Look, members of Congress know his position very well, Ron.
Q So has he made a call to any of them?
McClellan: His position is very well-known, Ron, and members have known his position. And it's been discussed with members, too.
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If nothing else, he 'supported' it but did absolutely nothing to get them to try to put it up for vote (he's the fucking president, like he couldn't have gotten them to put it up for vote!).

The above also solidifies my hatred of Scott McClellan.
 
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wasabi said:
anyone want to buy a few homecarts?
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LOL, thats what I was thinking.....I wonder how I could (illegally) go about picking up something nice like an M-84 Skorpion (silenced)

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slerch666 said:
Here's an exceprt of this article I found over at FactCheck.Org:



If nothing else, he 'supported' it but did absolutely nothing to get them to try to put it up for vote (he's the fucking president, like he couldn't have gotten them to put it up for vote!).

The above also solidifies my hatred of Scott McClellan.
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"Bush stated he wanted to extend the ban yet did nothing to support it. This shows a pattern of indecision" my, my, how "flip floppy" of him.
 
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jethrek said:
"Bush stated he wanted to extend the ban yet did nothing to support it. This shows a pattern of indecision" my, my, how "flip floppy" of him.
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Actually what he did was a brilliant ploy {yes even from him} on his part. He is pro 2nd Amendment and didn't see any need for such a ban to continue on. GWB knew that if he said he would extend it "Only if Congress" would motion it foward before the deadline that it would fall. There is no way with everything else going on that Congress was about to halt everything in the middle of the night before the ban was to be lifted to enact a "Extended Ban". Just like 9 times out of 10 the police officer who gave you a ticket won't show up in court and your ticket gets thrown out of court. Thus now I can finally mount on my supressors and other doo hickeys on my already legally acquired assault rifles, and it's a big FUCK YOU to the lame asses of the nation who serve a contrived and well entrenched cabal of Communist pigs who wish to make the world a "safer and more gutless place".

THE QUEST FOR FREEDOM CONTINUES...
 
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slerch666 said:
Here's an exceprt of this article I found over at FactCheck.Org:



If nothing else, he 'supported' it but did absolutely nothing to get them to try to put it up for vote (he's the fucking president, like he couldn't have gotten them to put it up for vote!).

The above also solidifies my hatred of Scott McClellan.
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Thats why I used the word "technically", next time look at the context of what's written before you start to gear up for a non-existant debate.
 
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You could buy an AR-15 even DURING THE BAN! The ban just outlawed full automatic weapons. You could only get semi-automatic, which is all you need for target shooting. I use to shoot competitively with the AR-15, it's a great rifle to learn on and actually easies the nerves after shooting. People have way too many mis-consceptions about what the assault weapon ban actually was about.
 
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Big Shady said:
You could buy an AR-15 even DURING THE BAN!
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True - it was legal to sell "pre-ban" AR-15's during the ban.



Big Shady said:
The ban just outlawed full automatic weapons.
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Not true - fully automatic weapons have been outlawed for civilian purchase since 1934. Even before the ban, to legally own a fully automatic weapon, you had to apply for a federal firearms license - which isn't the easiest thing to get and maintain.



Big Shady said:
You could only get semi-automatic, which is all you need for target shooting. I use to shoot competitively with the AR-15, it's a great rifle to learn on and actually easies the nerves after shooting. People have way too many mis-consceptions about what the assault weapon ban actually was about.
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Yeah, I used to shoot the AR-15 myself - it's a pretty weapon. A decent amount of firepower and still very compact and easy to shoot.

But anyway, the ban just outlawed the importation and manufacture (within the US) of assault rifles with certain features. Some of these include a pistol grip, high capacity magazines, and flash suppressors. The ban did not apply to weapons that were already in circulation (the so called pre-ban rifles), and thus many of these went up in price during the ban. The same AR15's that are being sold right now for around a grand were being sold during the ban for about 2200 or so.

Also, manufacturers played some tricks to get around the assault weapons ban. They could get rid of the flash suppressors fairly easily, and they were able to skirt the pistol grip issue by just making a hole in the stock so you could grip it like the pistol grip on the original weapons (but the stock and the grip were still in one piece, so technically there was no pistol grip, just a hole in the stock). As for the high capacity magazines, well, there were (are) tons of these things lying around that are classified as pre-ban (i.e. manufactured before the ban), so a gun owner could just buy these to use on his rifle that may have just come with a 5-round clip or whatever.
 
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What's the word on missiles, like Shoulder mounted, or Anti Aircraft kinds?

Are they free to be bought, or will USA run into my backyard screaming "We think you have weapons of mass destruction!"
 
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Damn, I envy you americans for your constitution, especially the 2nd amendment. :envy:

Being able to legally(!) own an AK-47 simply rocks! :buttrock:

It saddens me that some of you don't appreciate the liberties you have and try to ruin it for the others, why don't you just migrate to Cuba? :oh_no:

Gun laws over here in Austria suck shit - big time! :blow_top:

P.S.: The Governator of Kalifornia sucks donkey balls too, he's a liar and a hypocrite, don't let him fool you with his "charming" accent, even his fellow Austrians mock it all the time! :mad:
 
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Greywolf said:
P.S.: The Governator of Kalifornia sucks donkey balls too, he's a liar and a hypocrite, don't let him fool you with his "charming" accent, even his fellow Austrians mock it all the time! :mad:
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Fellow Austrians?

The governator is 100% American now.

p.s: Listen to what Galfordo had to say in his last post, he's 100% dead on about the SAW ban.
 
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Lagduf said:
Fellow Austrians?

The governator is 100% American now.

p.s: Listen to what Galfordo had to say in his last post, he's 100% dead on about the SAW ban.
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Bah, even a fancy U.S. passport won't change the fact that he's still a hick from the province of Styria on the inside. :annoyed:

Got no qualms with Galfordo's post, it's absolutely correct.

For detailed information concerning the civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons (not to be confused with their semi-auto counterparts who were affect by this ban) in the U.S. check the following page: http://www.full-auto.com/library_laws.htm
 
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