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nick_th_fury
09-15-2000, 10:15 PM
I guess I really dont understand either the pure gamer or pure collector side of the coin. I have been buying my neo carts as I have been able to over the last decade. I allways took pride in them since I had to work for them and they have brought me many many hours of enjoyment. When someone sees them & asks, I enjoy showing em off to folks that are interested. That has lead to my Girlfriend & her sister becoming addicted. Money Puzzle Exchanger is like drugs or something. Since I was into the home cart system at the begining, I never relly minded paying the high prices SNK charged. I still dont really. Its just par for the course. So I dont understand why gamers rail cart prices as unfair.
I also dont understand why anyone would ever want cart prices to go up. Hell, that just makes it harder on everyone. Why does anyone need to have the items they collect go up in value? When I collect something its because of several main reasons:
Its something that brings back good memories, ie nostalgia. Its fun to play, or read, or whatever. So I dont understand why any collector would enjoy cart prices rising. It just doesnt make sense to me. When prices drop, that lets more folks get into the neo scene. That & the internet have made it so much easier to get carts. Man, I remember driving hours an hours across North Texas just to get a new copy of Viewpoint the week it released. It was worth it, but damn, its so much easier now. I'd just like to see everyone that really digs the neo to get all the games they want. In what ever format makes them happy. Price raising & speculation aint going to achieve that any time soon.
-nick_th_fury
http://grador.radix.net/%7Ekws/trey/nickslink.gif (http://nickthfury.cjb.net/)

vincewy
09-15-2000, 10:52 PM
Exactly, I like the games simply because I like playing them, enjoying the art work of the games, even though US version of home carts are worth more, I always prefer Japanese home carts for the same reason.

I keep my collection regardless of how much they're worth, but simply because of my dedication.

Lou Gojira
09-15-2000, 11:03 PM
All I have to say is a big fat "Amen!" to that statement Nick. The way I figure, if you're into collecting things for the sake of seeing their prices go up later, get into stamps or coins or something. Video games are meant to be PLAYED and ENJOYED.

I'll admit, it took a little adjusting to when I first took notice of games that I shelled out big bucks for drop considerably (I remember paying $200 for the original Fatal Fury), but I justified it easily. At the time, the way I figure, I wanted the best, so I payed for the best, and that's what I got.

It's also nice to see more people get a chance to enjoy what the Neo Geo has to offer. Though the Neo will probably NEVER reach the selling success of the PSX, or the original Nintendo, or anything like that, that's all insignificant. What is significant is seeing more people becoming "enlightened" to something we already knew was the best.

Thanks,
-Lou-

Master Terry Bogard
09-16-2000, 04:37 PM
I agree w/ you guys.

Master Terry Bogard
09-16-2000, 04:42 PM
Just wanted to say that though most likely, I wouldn't sell games, when I see my games (any format) rises on price, I do feel a bit good about it...

Dion
09-16-2000, 05:19 PM
I agree and that is what I have been doing......for over 10 years with the Neo.

I have "paper goods" that are basically worthless to anyone but me and maybe a few other Neo collectors.

It just seems when "Dion" has it and says it's great....people try to argue - perfect example is the mahjong controllers.

As it is right now, ChrisR and "Dion" are about 4 years ahead of everyone in the collector game.

What we have done and collected 4 years ago, other peole are finally starting to try and obtain now.

Is this wrong for us to say whe nwe tell of something new?
No, everyone should follow our lead AS we are doing it, so you won't kick yourself in the behind later for not joining us and grabbing what could have been yours.

We show pics of these things so others will know what to look for.

The mahjong controllers came out AFTER "Dion" and Chris started posting pics and talking about them.


Dion - "trying to help the Neo collectors"

[This message has been edited by Dion (edited September 16, 2000).]

Robi15
09-16-2000, 05:40 PM
The Neo Geo Carts has allways been expensive and in limited amount. That invites people to collect them. The Neo Geo sys was never ment to everyone. It was ment to the adults. The group of people with good economy.

[This message has been edited by Robi15 (edited September 16, 2000).]

Dion
09-16-2000, 05:44 PM
Exactly.

And only adults are the collectors.
They have money and don't cry towards other collectors like the "children" with no money do.


Dion - PRA

lump505
09-16-2000, 05:52 PM
"The only adults are the collectors." Is that one of your marketing pitches. Give me a break! WOW Dion you own Neo Geo games so you are a grown-up now. Contradulations you are finally an adult. IT SURE TOOK LONG ENOUGH!

NeoZero
09-16-2000, 08:20 PM
Dion said that, "And only adults are the collectors." Does buying 50+ carts make you a collector? Sorry Dion, once again you are being the out-spoken person you always were.
Im 15, I have a job, and im a NEO-GEO Collector! Im not poor, but im not making enough money to be a 50+ cart collector like yourself. So Dion what exactly is your defintion of "COLLECTOR?"

-NeoZero

Big Bruno
09-16-2000, 08:21 PM
I'm with you vince. I also have being buying Neo games and items for a long while now. I to could care less what the so called value of my carts are. I pay what I think they are worth and if others fell they are worth more then I simply buy them someplace else or wait for the price to fall to what I feel they are worth. I think the biggest problem with gamers and collectors is that the gamers do not feel the games are worth as much as the collectors do but still would like to play the games. I guess they only thing to say about that is to either tell them to be patient or find other neo games or stuff to buy. I been living buy this Golden rule and following my own lead for several years now and it has not let me down yet http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Dion
09-16-2000, 08:40 PM
For the 2 people that are crying about being a collector.........you guys are NOT collectors.

You are "beginners" aspiring to become collectors.

Anyone can have 10, 20, 50, or 100 carts.
It's the last 40 that will make the difference between the men and the boys.


Dion - "loving how I am always right"

lump505
09-16-2000, 09:16 PM
The Men and the boys????

Get it through your head, these are just videogames. If most people found out how much you spent on all you Neo Geo games they would kick your ass for being a complete loser. Yeah collecting Neo Geo games is cool but why buy all the shit like Fight Fever and Legend Of Success Joe. That just shows you are a complete loser. Face it.

This is what you are saying. I am better than you because I have more games. What kind of statement is that? Oh yeah that is a statement coming from a grown (well not really) man with the mind of a 3 year old.


IT IS TIME TO GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!!

Dion
09-16-2000, 10:45 PM
Most people can't kick my ass. I'm sorry, but I'm a pretty bad "mo-fo"


Dion - "5 million volts is the aftermath"

Dion
09-16-2000, 10:47 PM
Why are you "gamers" trying to talk about what "collectors" do??

You guys don't have an understanding of a collectors point of view.

And besides, shouldn'tyou "gamers" be playing games instead of being online typing away.


Dion - "Neo's BAD BOY"

lump505
09-16-2000, 11:04 PM
Shouldnt you be bootlegging Neo Geo instead on being online. OH YEAH you must be a bad mo-fo in your Neo Geo jacket. Do you also have power waves coming out of your hands as well.

LOL

LOL

Dion
09-17-2000, 12:08 AM
I'm bad enough to give my real name and tell peopleto meet me in Vegas or Cali.

I don't see you doing that.
Only "Mike" has made a challenge like that, and he mopped the other person.


Dion - "Vegas shark"

NEO
09-17-2000, 12:11 AM
LOL !!!!! Hey Lump I love the powerwaves man. hehe funny shit

vincewy
09-17-2000, 01:58 AM
Hey, what do you mean I'm not collector? Is it because I don't own the unofficial games from NGF that can't even work properly? Other than that, I have all 105 home carts made officially by SNK, plus the MVS games not released on home carts.

I want to be factual here, soooo, here're the list of games that are only made on MVS formats by SNK, if you see home carts for sale, it's fake, please be aware:

Breakers Revenge
Bust A Move
Bust A Move Again
Captain Tomaday
Fight Fever
Flipshot
Futsal
Ganryu
Goal!Goal!Goal!
Gururin
Jongshin Densetsu
Money Idol Exchanger
Neo Bomberman
Neo Driftout
Neo Mr Do
Panic Bomber
Pop'n Bounce
Power Spikes
Prehistoric Isles 2
Puzzle de Pon
Puzzle de Pon R
Shock Troopers 1
Strikers 1945 Plus
Tecmo World Soccer 96
Zed Blade (Operation Ragnarok)

If you want to play those games, simply get the MVS carts for originality and quality.

Be aware that also, the following games are in Japanese format ONLY, not US/Euro, if you see one in English format, it's fake:

Blazing Star
Breakers
Kabuki Klash
Legend of Success Joe
all 3 mahjong games
-Mahjong Kyo Retsuden
-Baka Tonosama Mahjong Manyuki
-Minnasa No Okagesamadesu
Metal Slug 3
Overtop
Pulstar
all 4 quiz games
Ragnagard
Shock Troopers 2
Shoji No tatsujin
Stakes Winner 2
Super Tag Battle
Twinklestar Sprites
Waku Waku 7

Well, here they are, you can trust NGF, or my advise, now it's up to everyone.

NEO
09-17-2000, 02:05 AM
Gee thats a tough one Vince. I'll take your word over NGF anyday. Thanks for helping out.

Geddon_jt
09-17-2000, 02:31 AM
... Or you could just take a look at the master list, easily accessible on the toolbar to the left, which includes release format info for MVS, jap home, english home AND CD as well as links to pics of all official versions.
[self-promotion mode off]

=)
Heh, thanks for the info though Vince.
All looks good, except Super Tag Battle indeed exists as an official English cart.

John

Robi15
09-17-2000, 04:38 AM
I call my self a collector. The thing is that I only collect the games that interest me. Mostley they are the newest releaced games but there are some old ones too.

I don't want to own all the Neo games. I collect 2D games in general. Games to other systems aswell. Like SNES, Turbo Duo, Megadrve/Genesis, PSX. Just as long the games have made an impact on me, they will be in my c.l.l.e.c.t.i.o.n.

lump505
09-17-2000, 09:06 AM
Dion do you have to collect every baseball card to be a collector? UM...NO

So why do you have to collect all Neo Geo carts to be a collector?

Answer that backside boy!

See no profanity.

Dion
09-17-2000, 01:28 PM
So what if certain games were not released on AES by SNK, how does it make them "fake?"

The game is still real.

And we always say "NGF" made.
We don't hide anything.

You guys just can't "hang" with the "MEN OF NGF"

Here are the RELEASED games that NGF made into English that most people now think are official in English:

Breakers,
Double Dragon,
Kizuna Encounter,
Legend of Success Joe,
Ragnagard,
Waku Waku 7,
Pulstar,
Metal Slug 3,
Shock Troopers 2,
NeoGeo Cup 98,
Ultimate 11,
Magical Drop 2,
Magical Drop 3.

We admit that NGF made these cartridges in English format. So what is the big deal?
Most people prefer and strive to find these in English.


Dion - "giving you what you need"

Dion
09-17-2000, 01:43 PM
Look at how easy "NGF" controlls you so called "neo experts."

We had the entire community believing certain "RARE" English games really did exist. And we always say that NGF makes them.

As we said, once these games are in collectors hands, they become official and even the collectors have recognized and "VERIFY" that they are beautiful.

And look at how much they go up in value.
Only an NGF carts has that kind of value hold. Other carts drop in price, but NGF carts retain their value - making them a better investment.


Wait till you the see "official" KoF2000 English cart. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif (to match all the other KoFs)


Dion - "giving people English carts"



[This message has been edited by Dion (edited September 17, 2000).]

Shawn
09-17-2000, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Dion:
Look at how easy "NGF" controlls you so called "neo experts."

We had the entire community believing certain "RARE" English games really did exist. And we always say that NGF makes them.

Dion - "giving people English carts"


Double Dragon, Kizuna Encounter, & Ultimate 11 were released from SNK in English form. I have owned multiple copies of each of these rare games in English form, and none of them were bought from you or Chris. In fact, I have bought English copies of DD, STB, and U11 from Adol in France. I have also obtained doubles from other collectorís here in the states. My copies are all 100% authentic SNK print insert, manual, and cart sticker. No signs of laser printing is evident.

When you claim that these games donít exist, you are in turn discrediting the Master List and my personal collection.

Just because you have never owned these games in official SNK English form, does not mean they donít exist. If you dedicate enough time and effort, you too can own the ďrarestĒ of the rare.

I have my doubts that any NGF manual exists other than Super Dodgeball. I have asked other NGF cart owners, and the only manual that we own is SDB. You say that you have a manual for every unreleased game, yet Chris tells me there are only 3, SDB, Bust Ďaí Move, and Fight Fever. You may have the covers made for many of the games, but the actual manuals may not be finished. For instance, I have bought 32 NGF unreleased games I only received one NGF manual. Even with the 8 NGF unreleased cart purchase that was shipped (to be shipped) Saturday, Iím sure none will come with a manual.

See my point? I have my doubts that more than one NGF manual exists, because I only own one. Just like you doubt SNK official English versions of Double Dragon, Kizuna Encounter, and Ultimate 11 exist, because you have never owned them.

Gambit
09-17-2000, 03:21 PM
Well looks like Shawns is bigger then yours Dion, collection that is. Can't wait to hear your bullshit. Bring it.

vincewy
09-17-2000, 03:24 PM
John, I'm not 100% sure about Kizuna Encounter. If you go to Shawn's collector page, look at the side panel, it's much smaller than other games. In addition, the back of the insert doesn't have much details (words) about the game. Plus it's doesn't have space for serial number.

As I recall, nearly all English versions of home carts after 1996 have colorfull backgrounds, almost the same with Jp version, examples include Art of Fighting 3, Metal Slug, KOF 96, 97, 98, 99, Ninja Masters, Real Bout Special, Real Bout 2, etc.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not completely against home cart conversions as long as you know what yopu're getting, some people actually like those as an addition to their collection. It's personal preference, I'm also fan of PC-Engine, Super NES, Genesis, and classic arcade games on mame, these games fill the genres which Neo-Geo is lacking (RPG, Puzzle, PLatform, etc). I'm mainly speaking against conversion of protected catrts, which you'll have to sacrifice games like KOF 99, Metal Slug 3, and MOTW, which are getting harder and harder to come by. That's why the price of converted games like PI2, Striker 1945, and Ganryu are getting more and more expensive.

On the other hand, I give Dion credits for his dedication of creating inserts for those MVS only games. If he could be more open-minded, our community would be much better off.

Dion
09-17-2000, 05:34 PM
I'm just kidding about there not being a REAL Kizuna, DD, or Ultimate 11.

I have them all in my collection.
It's just funny how "Vince" brought it up.

But, Shawn, from what I remember, Chris sent you many pics of the Fight Fever manual. - didn't he?

Dion - "still making people"

Dion
09-17-2000, 05:36 PM
Oh, and got to my personal Neo page at:
http://memnbers.aol.com/dkd4/dionsneo.html

and you will see DD and Kizuna in my collection.

I have to update it to add Ultimate 11 and Diggerman.


Dion - "JAMMA and TGS this week - I'm there - are you?"

lump505
09-17-2000, 06:09 PM
I am sure you were kidding about the Kizuna Encounter, DD, and Ultimate 11. You probably said that so people would buy the "only" US versions from you. More marketing BS from Dion.

Billkwando
09-17-2000, 06:50 PM
>
"We admit that NGF made these cartridges in English format. So what is the big deal?
Most people prefer and strive to find these in English"

Oh really? Then you admit to lying. Gotcha, sucker.

>
"Look at how easy "NGF" controlls you so called "neo experts."
"We had the entire community believing certain "RARE" English games really did exist. And we always say that NGF makes them."

Really? If any of the community DID believe you, it's because you originally DID say they existed officially. Again, you are caught in a lie, by "Billkwando", the champion, watcher, and guardian of the neo geo community. "I love it!"

See dion claim in his own words what he now contradicts. You see why "dion" fears the fact that I keep track of what he says. He often lies and changes his story. He posted the following lie on every active Neo Geo messageboard at the time, including my own, Southtown Neo Geo Land.
Behold:

"These do exist on HOME cartridge format.
Dion_Dakis (29/M/Las Vegas)
04/13/1999 10:31 pm EDT
I keep hearing how people are always talking about
converted cartridges, well those guys either don't know where
too cheap to pay the money for the REAL home cartridge. Take Metal Slug
for example, we can all agree that this game was released on home
cartridge, yet it is ULTRA RARE and is ULTRA EXPENSIVE. This game sells
for $800.00 whenever it is available. EVERY and ALL NeoGeo games have
been made for the HOME system. I have EVERY single NeoGeo cartridge on
official HOME format. All of my cartridges have the original box,
insert, cartridge sticker, and manual. Just ask people who know me and
they can verify this, or just look at my home page at:
<a href="http://members.aol.com/DKD4/dionscarts.jpg" target="_top" >http://members.aol.com/DKD4/dionscarts.jpg</a>

These are some of the titles in my collection - ALL COMPLETE:

Breaker's Revenge, Brikinger, Fight Fever, Flip Shot, Goal Goal Goal, Gururin,
Janshin Densetsu, Master of Syougi, Money Idol Exchanger, Neo
Bomberman, Neo Driftout, Neo Mr.Do, Panic Bomber, Pop 'n Bounce, Power
Spikes 2, Puzzle Bobble - Bust-a-Move, Puzzle Bobble again - Bust-a-Move
Again EX, Puzzle de Pon, Puzzle de Pon R, Shock Troopers, Shock Troopers 2,
Super Dodgeball, Super Tag Battle - Kizuna Encounter, the Irritating
Maze - with trackball controller, World Soccer 96, Ultimate 11,
Zedblade. Like I said, all of these were released for the home
system complete with box, insert, cartridge sticker, and manual. You just
have to be willing to either take the time to find them and/or pay the
big money for them.

Just like Metal Slug.

thank you,
Dion Dakis"

As you can see, this is an obvious lie and contradiction that can be that has been seen and can be confirmed by many, some are posters here of the posters here, including Big Bruno, Geddon_jt, Dolphinlord, Neo Alec, Gui_Long, Asmoday, nick_th_fury, Mouse Master, Vince Yang, JM Kurtz, Lou Gojira, and Alicia Barone and Chad Okada, formerly of SNK.

Shawn himself, our Moderator, has seen proof with his own eyes and told me himself, that dion faked his hitcount, and stated that he had over 500,000 hits, when in fact he had less than 50,000. This was from a direct contradiction between NGF's c;laims and their "wusage" report.

"NGF" is nothing but dion and chris ray, the scammers, reinventing a new lie every six months like some invent sales pitches, and expecting everyone else to forget what lies they've already told.

"NGF" is ALWAYS wrong, and ALWAYS defeated by "Billkwando".

We here at http://www.undertheneogeomoon.net LOVE the negative publicity "NGF" brings upon themselves. (that's the "royal we", folks. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Billkwando PRA!! (proved right again)

Have a good one,
Billkwando http://www.undertheneogeomoon.net

Dion
09-17-2000, 07:00 PM
That's right.
Everything in that original post I made 2 years ago still holds true.


I have all those games on "official" home/AES format.

They are 100% original ROMS.


It's nice to see that BK Smalls saves all my old posts. In a few more years, my posts will become the next collectors items for Neo Fans worldwide.

Dion - "the GOAT"

lump505
09-17-2000, 07:05 PM
If you are saying you didnt lie then were are the manuals for those "officialy released" carts. You know that all you do is lie about everything.

Get the fuck out of here Dion the backside boy who makes love to his goat shemale wife while wearing his Neo Geo jacket.

NGF
09-17-2000, 07:08 PM
In this month alone, we have had close to 1 million hits at NGF.com

Thanks to a few Emulation sites that gave news report quotes direct from www.neogeofreak.com (http://www.neogeofreak.com) and gave NGF many links.

The one emulation page has 16.5 million viewers, and now we have a completely NEW and improved market of collectors buying NGF products.

They all are so thankful that we still support the NeoGeo.

So far this year, NGF.com is appoaching the 2 million hit mark.


NGF
www.neogeofreak.com (http://www.neogeofreak.com)

Dion
09-17-2000, 07:09 PM
Lumpo, you just can't handle that "Dion" is "the GOAT."


Dion - "Neo BAD BOY""

Neo Bomber Man
09-17-2000, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by vincewy:
I want to be factual here, soooo, here're the list of games that are only made on MVS formats by SNK, if you see home carts for sale, it's fake, please be aware:

Breakers Revenge
....

....

....


Not to be nitpicky, but didn't you once say that 10 copies of Breaker's Revenge do exist as Japanese home carts, only created for the employees of Visco? I'm not at all attempting to disprove your information or anything like that, I'm mainly asking out of curiosity as to whether you've found that statement to be a rumour, or beyond any doubt true, if it wasn't already.

It seems a curious thing and I would rather know for a fact prior to telling anyone else, just as an odd little tidbit. http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

SmokeYa
09-17-2000, 09:59 PM
Wow looks like ole Bilky got you good that time Dion http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Dolphin
09-17-2000, 10:02 PM
Not to be nitpicky, but didn't you once say that 10 copies of Breaker's Revenge do exist as Japanese home carts, only created for the employees of Visco?

I thought that was one of Chris Mullins' exorbitant claims, not Vince's. Either way, it reeks of bullshit.

[This message has been edited by DolphinLord (edited September 17, 2000).]

Adol
09-18-2000, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Shawn:
Double Dragon, Kizuna Encounter, & Ultimate 11 were released from SNK in English form. I have owned multiple copies of each of these rare games in English form, and none of them were bought from you or Chris. In fact, I have bought English copies of DD, STB, and U11 from Adol in France. I have also obtained doubles from other collectorís here in the states. My copies are all 100% authentic SNK print insert, manual, and cart sticker. No signs of laser printing is evident.

When you claim that these games donít exist, you are in turn discrediting the Master List and my personal collection.

Just because you have never owned these games in official SNK English form, does not mean they donít exist. If you dedicate enough time and effort, you too can own the ďrarestĒ of the rare.

I have my doubts that any NGF manual exists other than Super Dodgeball. I have asked other NGF cart owners, and the only manual that we own is SDB. You say that you have a manual for every unreleased game, yet Chris tells me there are only 3, SDB, Bust Ďaí Move, and Fight Fever. You may have the covers made for many of the games, but the actual manuals may not be finished. For instance, I have bought 32 NGF unreleased games I only received one NGF manual. Even with the 8 NGF unreleased cart purchase that was shipped (to be shipped) Saturday, Iím sure none will come with a manual.

See my point? I have my doubts that more than one NGF manual exists, because I only own one. Just like you doubt SNK official English versions of Double Dragon, Kizuna Encounter, and Ultimate 11 exist, because you have never owned them.


True i sold him many copies of them,and i got at least 3 of each in english form,100% snk original..and i knew many europeans collectors who owne dthem,because these games were released,indeed,in europe only ( and australia,i got one u11 from there )..
that's true,dion never owned them,he hadn't connections to get them,and i got 3 u11 carts before he even got one ( i think he still hasn't,otherwise he'll be proud to show it on his website,and you see clearly it is the japas tokuten ou 4 )

i agree too i never heard of another "ngf unreleased"manual than SDB..

Adol
09-18-2000, 01:08 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by vincewy:
[B]John, I'm not 100% sure about Kizuna Encounter.

Vince,lump,i SWEAR that Ultimate 11,Double Dragon and kizuna encounter exist in english form,100% original SNK version...i got many of them,i sold to shawn many,and i have right now a double dragon us i sold on ebay,i wait payment..i'll get this weke i hope too another ultimate 11..they're VERY RARE CARTS ( for me ,u11 is rarer than kizuna... )

and i was the first to claim Aero Fighters 3 exist in english form,because i saw it in a shop,in paris,4 years ago,brand new..i'm not a liar,everything i told is true,and i foten proved it..
now i agree,i never EVER resaw it,i never saw someone claiming he owned it or selling it,and that's a shame...but i KNOW it exists for sure..somewhere

4 years ao i doubt it was a "modified cart",especially in france where we didn't knew what MVS was

Adol
09-18-2000, 01:10 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NGF:
[B]In this month alone, we have had close to 1 million hits at NGF.com

1 million?ROTFLMAO

Billkwando
09-18-2000, 01:55 PM
http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by Billkwando (edited September 18, 2000).]

Billkwando
09-18-2000, 01:56 PM
Again, NGF (which stands for "no girl-friends") falls silent. I've beaten you guys again...

Hey guys, next time you wanna lie, why don't you just tell me what you're trying to say, and I'll let you know whether or not you've already contradicted it.

That way you'll save yourselves a whole lot of those humiliating moments when you first realize that you've made yourself look like a dumbass again. You fools just don't get it. "Under The Neo Geo Moon" is where you learned everything you know about the Neo.

Remember when you tried to argue with me at my BBS and I made you look dumb then too? Well in case you forgot, here you go:
http://lightning.prohosting.com/~billkwan/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000003.html

Oh yeah, for the rest of you, ignore the conversation between Gui Long and myself. Arguing with dion got so boring we started talking amongst ourselves! http://www.neo-geo.com/ubb/wink.gif

I catch him in every lie yet he keeps trying to pull one over. Give it up dion, you've been busted again by "Billkwando"

UTNGM PRA!!

I love it!!

Have a good one,
Billkwando http://www.undertheneogeomoon.com

Dion
09-18-2000, 06:07 PM
Adol, my collection pics don't show Diggerman or Ultimate 11.

I will show both when I take new collection pics. I have 1 extra English Ultimate 11 for sale. I had a total of 3. Cost is $450.


Dion - "the GOAT"

Adol
09-18-2000, 06:58 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dion:
[B]Adol, my collection pics don't show Diggerman or Ultimate 11.

I will show both when I take new collection pics. I have 1 extra English Ultimate 11 for sale. I had a total of 3. Cost is $450.


Fine,then..is your english u11 cart for $450 is original SNK one,or NGF one?

Dion
09-18-2000, 07:13 PM
If there is an original version made, then I have it. My English Ultimate 11 is an original of course.

For me to take a pic in my collection means I have to slide carts over (to make room for new games like Diggerman). Then I have to take new pics of all the shelves. If I added a game to the first shelf, I would have to take new pics of ALL the shelves, make them perfect, upload, correct the html pages (game titles), etc.

So, right now I am in no hurry to do all that extra work. Maybe when I get back from Japan I will load some new pics of all the new items I have.

Did you see the NGF Diggerman?
It is so beautiful.
Such a great puzzle game.


Dion - "the GOAT"

Neo Bomber Man
09-18-2000, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by DolphinLord:
I thought that was one of Chris Mullins' exorbitant claims, not Vince's. Either way, it reeks of bullshit.

I can very well believe what you say. Whether or not Vince was just echoing what he heard/read I don't know (& I'm fairly certain it was in one of his posts), but it rather seemed too odd to be fully believable, if thought about.

Adol
09-19-2000, 04:59 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dion:
[B]If there is an original version made, then I have it. My English Ultimate 11 is an original of course.


so,please answer my question: is the $450 u11cart you're selling is SNK one or NGF one?

Dion
09-19-2000, 11:56 AM
It is original SNK.


Dion - "the GOAT"

BryLmoo
10-07-2000, 08:37 AM
Hey Dion, I know your proud of your collection and everything but, do you really think it is nice to look down upon others who don't have all the carts or the connections that you do with SNK\Aruze???? I meen no offence but you can really be an ASS sometimes. I don't appreciate the way you talk to people, and for someone that has been collecting Neo for over 10 years you would think you would be a little more friendly. I would love to deal with NGF, but I'm not if I'm gonna be pushed around like I'm inferior - BECAUSE IM NOT - I like SNK/Aruze for the games that they released like the SS series (my favorite) I still play SS1 all the time, and really enjoy it. Oh yeah and one more thing....Does NGF pay good????? hahahahhahahahaha

Dreamh2o
10-07-2000, 11:53 AM
I agree that the way certain people conduct themselves in and outside this forum make me think of used car salesmen, and children. Why buy indeed.

BryLmoo
10-07-2000, 06:27 PM
I don't meen to be mean or anything, so don't take it the wrong way Dion. I do however think that if you want to keep NGF alive you need a great change of attitude towards your customers.

If NGF is the only way to get SS5 for the AES, then hell I'm all for it.